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Old 04-12-2019, 11:19 AM   #331
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Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available

The Cards are not in a "win now" mode. I think they'd rather have a 2020 1st than a 2019 second. Bruce and Jay are both in the hot seat. They'd rather trade a 2020 pick (when its possible one if not both of them will be gone) than lose a pick this year.
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Old 04-12-2019, 11:23 AM   #332
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Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available

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The Cards are not in a "win now" mode. I think they'd rather have a 2020 1st than a 2019 second. Bruce and Jay are both in the hot seat. They'd rather trade a 2020 pick (when its possible one if not both of them will be gone) than lose a pick this year.
Snyder acts like he doesn't have the guts to fire Bruce since his last name is Allen...
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Old 04-12-2019, 11:38 AM   #333
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The Cards are not in a "win now" mode. I think they'd rather have a 2020 1st than a 2019 second. Bruce and Jay are both in the hot seat. They'd rather trade a 2020 pick (when its possible one if not both of them will be gone) than lose a pick this year.
If I'm GM of a team not expected to "win now", I'm trading my current picks for many more/higher picks in the next draft.

If I'm GM of the Patriots, I'm trolling every other team by publicly offering my 2020 1st for your 2020 1st, straight up.

Something along the lines of "The Chiefs know that they won't beat us in the playoffs, otherwise they'd make the trade."
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Old 04-12-2019, 12:32 PM   #334
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Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available

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They’ll deal Rosen on draft day or very close to it. Once they draft Murray they lose even more leverage. They won’t wait until after the draft they’ll lose out on a 2019 pick that way.


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Exactly. Deal goes down before the draft starts.

Also a slight possibility the Redskins get on the clock at 15 and none of the college QBs look appetizing, so they'd be in a low leverage situation and the Cards would be in a low leverage situation, which balances out and they come back to the 2nd rounder and do the deal then.
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Old 04-14-2019, 09:30 AM   #335
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Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available

On the film look at his feet. Terrible footwork. This guys a project, not ready to start.
Bill Walsh one of the best QB evaluaters always preached footwork is the most important fundamental of QB play. Watch their feet, are they decisive and throw or do they look unsure. Rosen looks unsure.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ho2E4i...fauxfullscreen
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Old 04-14-2019, 10:24 AM   #336
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Looks like you and I are the only people giving him a thumbs down. I don't like him from what I saw watching a lot of UCLA games. I didn't see him play for the Cardinals. My knocks were lack of signature wins, one of those guys who looked better in the box score than on TV. He put up huge numbers against weak defenses, while making crucial mistakes at the worst possible times against better teams. Does that sound familiar?


You’re not the only ones. I’d pass on Rosen for exactly the reasons you’ve identified. Two close friends are huge UCLA fans (watch and dissect every game) and they can’t stand him. They’d echo your assessment.


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Old 04-14-2019, 10:44 AM   #337
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On the film look at his feet. Terrible footwork. This guys a project, not ready to start.
Bill Walsh one of the best QB evaluaters always preached footwork is the most important fundamental of QB play. Watch their feet, are they decisive and throw or do they look unsure. Rosen looks unsure.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ho2E4i...fauxfullscreen
This could be one of the issues Charlie Casserly was referring to when he was critical of Rosen during the Comcast Redskins Draft Special. He also said Rosen had an attitude that POed teammates and coaches.

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Old 04-14-2019, 12:28 PM   #338
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The problem with footwork related to sports it has to be instinctive, it can be a deal breaker. If you aren't a natural you can be in trouble, sometimes a problem that is never cured. Different sport, but to me a funny story none the less. I boxed in my youth as an amateur and also trained people to box, nothing serious mostly for self defense purposes. The first thing a person needs to learn is foot placement in regard to balance stability and to be in position to throw the most effective punches.

Some people you would show them once and they felt comfortable and got it, the naturals as I call them. On the flip side I had guys that would look down at their feet during sparring sessions. I am pretty sure you do not have to be a boxing expert to realize that does not turn out well.
Amen. Footwork and foot placement is key to all sports.
I also coach, Soccer, football and baseball. Coaching kids has taught me a lot about human nature. Sometimes it’s like herding cats. But what I quickly learned is they all want to be great immediately, but they find learning fundamentals like footwork boring. They want to be scoring, celebrating, showing off, fame with out putting in the hard work. How did Rosen get to be a second year NFL pro and not have good footwork?
Below is not the video I was looking for, but it talks more about Bill Walsh’s always stressing footwork to his QB’s and what I imeadiately see as troubling in Rosen. He has work to do to break his bad habits.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TU1EEFTUJAY#

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Old 04-15-2019, 03:56 PM   #339
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Been told Alex Smith is there too

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Old 04-15-2019, 03:57 PM   #340
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They’ll deal Rosen on draft day or very close to it. Once they draft Murray they lose even more leverage. They won’t wait until after the draft they’ll lose out on a 2019 pick that way.


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