I wish we hired Gregg Williams as our coach.

Counter-Tre · 10-04-2009, 07:32 PM

I know it's not healthy or productive to look back but I must confess, I loved that dead-eyed bastard. Seeing him kick ass with the Saints is filling me with regret and a lot of "what-ifs". Okay, I'm ready for my flaming.

tryfuhl · 10-04-2009, 07:33 PM

To me he was coming a bit too much of what we've hated about Blache so far.

Paintrain · 10-04-2009, 07:35 PM

I don't. Our organization would have been more poisonous than it is now. Grilliams and Snyder couldn't co-exist. Both of them have egos the size of Texas, it would have been a nightmare.

That and I think his act wears thin with players pretty quickly. He's very up and down (top 5 and bottom 5 defenses here, terrible in Jax, good in NO) which seems to signal something is going on deeper than the surface.

GTripp0012 · 10-04-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

I don't. Our organization would have been more poisonous than it is now. Grilliams and Snyder couldn't co-exist. Both of them have egos the size of Texas, it would have been a nightmare.

That and I think his act wears thin with players pretty quickly. He's very up and down (top 5 and bottom 5 defenses here, terrible in Jax, good in NO) which seems to signal something is going on deeper than the surface.

Which more or less sums up the anti-Gregg Williams argument.

It would have been a good idea if we were coming off an NFC Championship game berth with Gibbs, but the way that season ended, we needed a fresh start. Unfortunately, we got this.

skinsfaninok · 10-04-2009, 07:43 PM

Hell no! He wouldn't be a good coach for anybody, he will always be just a d cord.. I still want gruden or shanahan next yr

Mechanix544 · 10-04-2009, 07:57 PM

Williams moved WAY too much to a prevent defense way too early in games for my taste. He is aggressive to an extent, but the bend but dont break D is just not to my liking. I hate when defenses "sit" on leads.

SFREDSKIN · 10-04-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Hell no! He wouldn't be a good coach for anybody, he will always be just a d cord.. I still want gruden or shanahan next yr

Why is everyone so high on Gruden? The guy couldn't even settle on a QB with Tampa Bay. Shanahan without Elway did nothing, that why he was fired. I'll throw a name for you of someone that will become hot by the end of the college season. Jim "captain comeback" Harbaugh, yes the old Bears, Colts QB and current Stanford coach. I bet they will upset USC when they play later this year.

Ruhskins · 10-04-2009, 08:02 PM

I wish I had won a million dollars...so what's the point of this?

PennSkinsFan · 10-04-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

I don't. Our organization would have been more poisonous than it is now. Grilliams and Snyder couldn't co-exist. Both of them have egos the size of Texas, it would have been a nightmare.

That and I think his act wears thin with players pretty quickly. He's very up and down (top 5 and bottom 5 defenses here, terrible in Jax, good in NO) which seems to signal something is going on deeper than the surface.

Yeah and George Michael eluded to that in his interview about Snyder. Never would have worked.

SmootSmack · 10-04-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Why is everyone so high on Gruden? The guy couldn't even settle on a QB with Tampa Bay. Shanahan without Elway did nothing, that why he was fired. I'll throw a name for you of someone that will become hot by the end of the college season. Jim "captain comeback" Harbaugh, yes the old Bears, Colts QB and current Stanford coach. I bet they will upset USC when they play later this year.

And he was Josh Johnson's coach at San Diego...it's funny you bring up Jim Harbaugh though. I was just talking to someone associated with Stanford football about him the other day. It's expected he'll move on soon, but probably stay in college football

atomicnixon · 10-04-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Counter-Tre

I know it's not healthy or productive to look back but I must confess, I loved that dead-eyed bastard. Seeing him kick ass with the Saints is filling me with regret and a lot of "what-ifs". Okay, I'm ready for my flaming.

It's not just you, I feel the same way. I'm glad he's having so much success after falling flat in Jacksonville. Too bad we have to play the Saints this year; that ought to be interesting. lol.

Ruhskins · 10-04-2009, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by atomicnixon

It's not just you, I feel the same way. I'm glad he's having so much success after falling flat in Jacksonville. Too bad we have to play the Saints this year; that ought to be interesting. lol.

No disrespect to G-Williams, but hasn't this been the first game the defense has done very well. I think in the other games, the offense has just basically outscored the opponent.

SFREDSKIN · 10-04-2009, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

And he was Josh Johnson's coach at San Diego...it's funny you bring up Jim Harbaugh though. I was just talking to someone associated with Stanford football about him the other day. It's expected he'll move on soon, but probably stay in college football

I think he could make a smooth transition to the NFL without a hitch, having been a player, etc.. This guy is smart and can coach, he could change his mind and go to the pro's eventually.

The Goat · 10-04-2009, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

I don't. Our organization would have been more poisonous than it is now. Grilliams and Snyder couldn't co-exist. Both of them have egos the size of Texas, it would have been a nightmare.

That and I think his act wears thin with players pretty quickly. He's very up and down (top 5 and bottom 5 defenses here, terrible in Jax, good in NO) which seems to signal something is going on deeper than the surface.

Why is it that Williams, possessing such an allegedly gigantic ego and contentious personality, has been able to thrive under/alongside so many personalities and within several organizations in the league? I mean c'mon this idea that NFL coaches are nice guys who must find a way to cow-toe to their owner carries no water...

...the fact is it's lil Danny who has only been able to get along w/ two coaches his entire tenure as owner: Joe Gibbs (who gets along w/ everyone, period) and Zorn, one of the seemingly most mild-mannered, ho-hum types you can find on the sideline. Not sure how much longer Snyder and Zorn we'll be buds but that's another story. Bottom line is it's Snyder who has all the issues when it comes to people, Vinny doesn't help either as his lack of personality is becoming rather infamous.

Williams has a stronger track-record than anyone on our staff, period. Throw him under the bus for the one year stop in Jax if you like, ignoring that the defense wasn't entirely turned over to him and he didn't get to recruit talent. When given control as he basically had w/ the Skins and definitely has now w/ the Saints he works wonders w/ typically not elite talent. That said, and it's certainly obvious by now I'm a big fan and totally believed he deserved the HC job here, I'm very happy he landed where he did. I think he'll acquire a SB ring within a year or two and that wouldn't likely have happened coaching in D.C.

Defensewins · 10-05-2009, 12:08 AM

The Jets vs Saints game was pleasure to watch. Both defenses are aggressive and play well. Unlike the bend but don't break/play not to lose/pussy style of defense we play. Williams had his CB's up tight on the WR and you could actually see the safety's. They we not playing 20 yards off the line scrimmage.

The Giants vs Saints game following the Saints bye week will be potential playoff preview. Should be a good game of two really good defenses.
Greg Williams is a respected coach in the NFL and is a better coach than Blache PERIOD.

10-04-2009, 07:32 PM	#1
Counter-Tre Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Venice Beach, CA Age: 51 Posts: 345	I wish we hired Gregg Williams as our coach. I know it's not healthy or productive to look back but I must confess, I loved that dead-eyed bastard. Seeing him kick ass with the Saints is filling me with regret and a lot of "what-ifs". Okay, I'm ready for my flaming.

10-04-2009, 07:33 PM	#2
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 40 Posts: 12,514	Re: I wish we hired Gregg Williams as our coach. To me he was coming a bit too much of what we've hated about Blache so far.

10-04-2009, 07:35 PM	#3
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 53 Posts: 5,006	Re: I wish we hired Gregg Williams as our coach. I don't. Our organization would have been more poisonous than it is now. Grilliams and Snyder couldn't co-exist. Both of them have egos the size of Texas, it would have been a nightmare. That and I think his act wears thin with players pretty quickly. He's very up and down (top 5 and bottom 5 defenses here, terrible in Jax, good in NO) which seems to signal something is going on deeper than the surface. __________________ Paintrain's Redskins Fandom 1981-2014 I'm not dead but this team is dead to me...but now that McCloughan is here they may have new life! Jay Gruden = Zorny McSpurrier Kirk Cousins = Next Grossman

10-04-2009, 07:43 PM	#5
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 35,990	Re: I wish we hired Gregg Williams as our coach. Hell no! He wouldn't be a good coach for anybody, he will always be just a d cord.. I still want gruden or shanahan next yr __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

10-04-2009, 07:57 PM	#6
Mechanix544 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 2,277	Re: I wish we hired Gregg Williams as our coach. Williams moved WAY too much to a prevent defense way too early in games for my taste. He is aggressive to an extent, but the bend but dont break D is just not to my liking. I hate when defenses "sit" on leads.

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10-05-2009, 12:08 AM	#15
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,742	Re: I wish we hired Gregg Williams as our coach. The Jets vs Saints game was pleasure to watch. Both defenses are aggressive and play well. Unlike the bend but don't break/play not to lose/pussy style of defense we play. Williams had his CB's up tight on the WR and you could actually see the safety's. They we not playing 20 yards off the line scrimmage. The Giants vs Saints game following the Saints bye week will be potential playoff preview. Should be a good game of two really good defenses. Greg Williams is a respected coach in the NFL and is a better coach than Blache PERIOD.

I wish we hired Gregg Williams as our coach.

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