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Old 03-01-2016, 03:12 PM   #76
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Re: 2016 Combine

Post combine question at pick 21:

If Noah Spence vs Emmanuel Ogbah vs Josh Doctsun vs Reggie Ragland vs Sheldon Rankins vs Mackenzie Alexander are available and you can't trade down who do you take?
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Old 03-01-2016, 03:26 PM   #77
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Re: 2016 Combine

With the draft so deep at DT/DE, I take either Ragland or Doctsun. I know I didn't answer the question, but I'd narrow it down to those two.

Now, if I'm future-proofing my team with the expectation of losing either Garcon or Jackson (or both) I take Doctsun. WRs make me nervous as hell, but I'd be fine on living with Compton and Mason for a season or two.
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Old 03-01-2016, 03:43 PM   #78
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Re: 2016 Combine

30, imo you listed guys who are late first rounders/borderline 2nd rounds. Ragland probably, Rankin 2nd choice

I think Spence, Ok st and WR go in the second round.

Alexander CB probably goes in the first. Sidenote ive heard a lot of bad things about his tape lately. The main thing is, its not good and he benefited from good safety play and the best Dline in college.
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Old 03-01-2016, 04:16 PM   #79
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Re: 2016 Combine

Ragland, in a heart beat.
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Old 03-01-2016, 09:25 PM   #80
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Re: 2016 Combine

My rankings right now:

Emmanuel Ogbah
Noah Spence
Mackenzie Alexander
Doctsun
Rankins
Ragland
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Old 03-01-2016, 09:46 PM   #81
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Re: 2016 Combine

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30, imo you listed guys who are late first rounders/borderline 2nd rounds. Ragland probably, Rankin 2nd choice.....

Alexander CB probably goes in the first. Sidenote ive heard a lot of bad things about his tape lately. The main thing is, its not good and he benefited from good safety play and the best Dline in college.
I could see all those guys being gone by 21...

Right about now is when I start tuning out or being really careful about what I read about any prospect. Its officially lying season in the draft process. Agents, front offices begin spewing all sorts of rhetoric to each other and especially to the media with the intent being to mask their true beliefs and sometimes the rhetoric is anywhere from a little misleading to purposefully deceptive and sometimes out right fabrications.

I've watched some Alexander tape and right off the bat I gotta say watching DB play on TV copy isn't the best way to assess DB play. But form what I've watched its good, very good. In man he can press, has quick feet, step for step mirror ability, confidence, good reaction to the ball, good route recognition. Like many college CBs you're not gonna confuse his tackling for a S, but that's most of them. His work in off coverage needs work but his base of ability on film is solid to my eye. I really, wish he ran CB numbers can really help in the comp to the other CBs in the class and from historical data. If Mack is isn't explosive? Lacks good speed, doesn't have decent 3-cone etc I move him down the board but still like him based on his tape.

The knock about surrounding talent can be applied to many prospects from top schools. Take Ragland for example if a draftnik wants to knock his production they could point to his NFL quality DL and schematic advantage playing in a Saban defense. But, Ragland still had to make those defensive calls, still had to make those tackles, still had to defend those passes.
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Old 03-02-2016, 12:42 PM   #82
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Post Combine Mock Draft

2016 NFL Mock Drafts : Mock draft 3.0: Browns strike for Wentz


Pick No.21
WAS

Darron Lee--OLB--Ohio St.

Lee has the speed, instincts and play-making ability to be a difference maker from Day 1.


Pick No.

1

TEN


Laremy Tunsil

OT

Mississippi



A trade down would be nice for Tennessee, but I don't see that happening.




Pick No.

2

CLE


Carson Wentz

QB

North Dakota St.



Wentz has aced the Senior Bowl and the combine.




Pick No.

3

SD


Jalen Ramsey

CB

Florida St.



Ramsey moved around like a premier CB at the combine.




Pick No.

4

DAL


Joey Bosa

DE

Ohio St.



The Cowboys can't count on Randy Gregory, and Bosa will have an immediate impact.




Pick No.

5

JAC


Myles Jack

OLB

UCLA



The Jags need to get more explosive on defense, and Jack can lineup at just about any position on defense.




Pick No.

6

BAL


DeForest Buckner

DE

Oregon



Buckner has a rare combination of size/agility/motor and he's built to play in the AFC North.




Pick No.

7

SF


Jared Goff

QB

California



The 49ers can't afford to pass on a potential franchise QB in their own backyard.




Pick No.

8

MIA


Kevin Dodd

DE

Clemson



The Dolphins need to add some youth on the edge and Dodd has tremendous upside.




Pick No.

9

TB


Vernon Hargreaves

CB

Florida



The Bucs need to get more dynamic at this position and Hargreaves is a ball magnet.




Pick No.

10

NYG


Shaq Lawson

DE

Clemson



Lawson plays with great technique/effort and his production is outstanding.




Pick No.

11

CHI


Ronnie Stanley

OT

Notre Dame



Stanley is a Day 1 starting left tackle.




Pick No.

12

NO


Sheldon Rankins

DT

Louisville



Rankins will add some quickness to the Saints' defensive front.




Pick No.

13

PHI


Corey Coleman

WR

Baylor



The Eagles need more explosiveness at the WR spot and Coleman is a big-play machine.




Pick No.

14

OAK


Jack Conklin

OT

Michigan St.



Conklin proved has the skill set and demeanor to excel at multiple positions on the OL.




Pick No.

15

STL


Paxton Lynch

QB

Memphis



The Rams need to address the QB spot and while very raw, Lynch has a huge upside.




Pick No.

16

DET


Laquon Treadwell

WR

Mississippi



Treadwell isn't a burner, but I love his physical style of play and he'll be a double-digit TD producer very early in his career.




Pick No.

17

ATL


Leonard Floyd

OLB

Georgia



Floyd would team up with Vic Beasley to give the Falcons two fastballs coming off the edge.




Pick No.

18

IND


Taylor Decker

OT

Ohio St.



Keeping Andrew Luck upright has to be priority No. 1.




Pick No.

19

BUF


Jarran Reed

DT

Alabama



There are flashier DTs available here, but Reed is the most consistent and he brings a rugged playing style as well.




Pick No.

20

NYJ


Ezekiel Elliott

RB

Ohio St.



Elliott is clearly the top RB in this class and he will fit perfectly in this offense.




Pick No.21
WAS

Darron Lee--OLB--Ohio St.

Lee has the speed, instincts and play-making ability to be a difference maker from Day 1.


Pick No.

22

HOU


Will Fuller

WR

Notre Dame



There is a lot of buzz building around Fuller and I expect him to be picked in this range.




Pick No.

23

MIN


Josh Doctson

WR

TCU



The Vikings need more weapons on offense and Doctson turned some heads with his performance at the combine.




Pick No.

24

CIN


Reggie Ragland

ILB

Alabama



Ragland doesn't wow you with timed speed, but he plays plenty fast and can dominate against the run.




Pick No.

25

PIT


Noah Spence

DE

Eastern Kentucky



If Spence checks out off the field, this would be a tremendous value for the Steelers.




Pick No.

26

SEA


A'Shawn Robinson

DT

Alabama



Robinson is one the top interior defenders in the draft and he would fit perfectly in Seattle.




Pick No.

27

GB


Andrew Billings

NT

Baylor



I was very impressed with the athleticism Billings displayed at the combine.




Pick No.

28

KC


Robert Nkemdiche

DT

Mississippi



The Chiefs took a chance with their first-round pick last year (Marcus Peters) and it paid off. Nkemdiche has top-5 pick talent, but off-field issues will likely cause him to drop.




Pick No.

29

ARI


Mackensie Alexander

CB

Clemson



There are concerns about his speed and production, but Alexander is very athletic and tough.




Pick No.

30

CAR


Eli Apple

CB

Ohio St.



Apple had an excellent combine workout and alleviated any concerns about his speed.




Pick No.

31

DEN


Germain Ifedi

OG

Texas A&M



The Broncos need to address the OL and Ifedi has excellent size and versatility
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Old 03-11-2016, 03:38 AM   #83
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Re: 2016 Combine

Reports saying Clemson players have a solid proday.
Mackenzie was timed ~4.41-4.51 and
Edge rushers looked good, timed well.
BJ Goodson solid workout and measurables.

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