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Old 04-11-2018, 11:11 AM   #376
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I think if we get Hankins we are fine, remember matt ioannidis was pretty damn good too last yr at times.
Ioannidis is the reason I wouldn't mind the team taking Vea.
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Old 04-11-2018, 11:15 AM   #377
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Ioannidis is the reason I wouldn't mind the team taking Vea.
When Allen and Foster went down last yr, it killed us. We were pretty damn good along the front 7 until that happened. That's y I'm looking at value and adding picks, we drop back a few spots and draft Hurst or Payne at around 20 ish or later and pick up a 2nd.. That to me would be amazing.
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Old 04-11-2018, 11:54 AM   #378
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Ioannidis is the reason I wouldn't mind the team taking Vea.
And Kendall Fuller is the reason I wouldn't mind the Skins taking Minkah if he falls. Orlando Scandrick my ass, you can never have too many corners.

But if we get Vea I think I'd be OK with that too.
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Old 04-11-2018, 12:10 PM   #379
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And Kendall Fuller is the reason I wouldn't mind the Skins taking Minkah if he falls. Orlando Scandrick my ass, you can never have too many corners.

But if we get Vea I think I'd be OK with that too.
lol i agree scandrick is trash. i hop eby some miracle shit he proves to be serviceable at the very least.
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Old 04-11-2018, 01:07 PM   #380
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Scandrick was really good 2 years ago, this last season he was nicked up.
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Old 04-11-2018, 01:38 PM   #381
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Re: Looking at the draft.

I really think we are in a very good position in the draft either to catch a falling star like Allen last year, or trade down to the 18-22 spot and pick up an extra pick. There are several possibilities and combinations of picks any number of which can set us right.

With that in mind, this draft will mainly be bad IF they for some reason go with a WR in the first, trade all the way out of the first a la Vinnie, or take Hurst when Payne or Vea are available.
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Old 04-11-2018, 01:49 PM   #382
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Yep either way we are in a good spot. I don't see any chance we go WR in the 1st unless we trade down to like 27 or so
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Old 04-11-2018, 01:50 PM   #383
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I really think we are in a very good position in the draft either to catch a falling star like Allen last year, or trade down to the 18-22 spot and pick up an extra pick. There are several possibilities and combinations of picks any number of which can set us right.

With that in mind, this draft will mainly be bad IF they for some reason go with a WR in the first, trade all the way out of the first a la Vinnie, or take Hurst when Payne or Vea are available.
With the amount of expected QBs to go in round one, makes sense other folks will still try to trade up to grab them. Expect at least 5 to go ahead of us. This should easily drop quality talent.

Also, with the lack of Free agent talent at Tackle and WR I fully expect the top prospects at both those positions to get chosen ahead of us. That means more reaching and more talent falling.

With these 2 things working together...a Jonathan Allen type drop isn't out of the realm of logic at 13.
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Old 04-11-2018, 04:13 PM   #384
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Generally you are correct, but top 5 picks should be generational players. Would you be ok if we had taken Okung instead of Trent and were searching for a LT again?
I would agree expect if you're talking about taking a back.
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Old 04-11-2018, 04:38 PM   #385
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I would agree expect if you're talking about taking a back.
Yeah, I do agree. In fact I am rooting for NYG to take Barkley for several reasons:
1) miss the opportunity to get Eli's successor from top candidates
2) miss the opportunity to take a player who would be a DE stud for the next 10 years
3) should force the Skins FO to take a DT, which helps us both against Elliot and Barkley
4) keeps them from trading down and building their OL quicker.
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Old 04-11-2018, 04:58 PM   #386
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Re: Looking at the draft.

I don't want Giants to get Barkely or Chubb. My dream scenario is they take whatever QB turns out to be the worst out of the 1st rounders.
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Old 04-11-2018, 06:02 PM   #387
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Giants will take a QB or Chubb. I don't see them taking Barkley.
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Old 04-11-2018, 08:10 PM   #388
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I would agree expect if you're talking about taking a back.
I'm not against taking a back at 13 if he has a grade that warrants it.

I'm against trading up because of the huge cost of moving from 13 to the top few to snag Barkley.

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Old 04-12-2018, 08:37 AM   #389
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Giants will take a QB or Chubb. I don't see them taking Barkley.
Eli is old, they have to take Rosen IMO
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Old 04-12-2018, 11:20 AM   #390
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Eli is old, they have to take Rosen IMO

Depends on what they think Eli has left, if the answer is 2-3 more years drafting a QB now may not be a priority
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