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Old 11-19-2019, 04:26 PM   #61
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First, i was just throwing Haskins and Trent out there as options.

Maybe the Bengals had a 2nd or 3rd round grade on Haskins and WOULD have drafted him if he'd been there with one of those picks. You cant say they don't like Haskins at all simply because they didn't REACH even higher than Snyder to get him.

As far as Haskins' play, no, it hasn't been good, but he wasn't expected to be good right away. He had limited experience in college and was not viewed as NFL-ready. What we are seeing now is exactly what we thought we would see. I would imagine that his play so far is in line with the draft grades most teams had on him.

So basically, you can't say Haskins doesn't have ANY value in a trade. Josh Rosen was awful last year, had much less "upside" than Haskins, and the Dolphins still gave up a 2nd round pick for him. Its preposterous to think there aren't coaches out there who don't think they could mold Haskins into a top QB.

Ultimately, whatever we do with Haskins, it should not impact our desire to trade up to #1 to get Burrow. Find out what the Bengals want and then do it. That's my opinion anyways.
I actually can but I never did...so carry on with more trade scenarios. How about Trent Williams, Deez Nuts, for....
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Old 11-19-2019, 04:42 PM   #62
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I actually can but I never did...so carry on with more trade scenarios. How about Trent Williams, Deez Nuts, for....
Jeez. I should have just said "Trade something to the Bengals for the #1 overall pick to draft Burrow." As i already said, I was including names as examples. Realistically, Trent will likely be traded long before the draft anyways.

But I don't see Haskins plus the #2 pick to draft Chase Young + something else as being a bad deal for the #1 pick.

Ultimately, my point is that I believe Burrow to be the kind of QB that doesn't come around very often. The draft is such a lottery and he looks like more of a sure thing than any QB in recent memory. With the #2 overall pick, we would have stronger trade ammunition than just about anyone else.

No matter how well Haskins plays the rest of the year, I think we need to do whatever it takes to get Burrow.

Hopefully, the Bengals stumble into a win or two so we end up with the #1 overall pick on our own.
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Old 11-19-2019, 05:53 PM   #63
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Donald Penn had the highest grade of any LT this week. We have not talked about him enough, dude has been damn good

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Old 11-19-2019, 05:53 PM   #64
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Forget about next year for one second .. if you were the head coach and needed one win the rest of year .. would you play Haskins or keenum?
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Old 11-19-2019, 06:37 PM   #65
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Forget about next year for one second .. if you were the head coach and needed one win the rest of year .. would you play Haskins or keenum?
Are you saying the coach wants a win? I think we would be more likely to get a win with Case then with Haskins
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Old 11-19-2019, 07:04 PM   #66
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Iím just trying to figure are we really this bad or are we tanking.. I really thought firing Gruden was the answer .. Iím not sure now at all .. manusky would have made more sense to let go. I canít believe this team has fallen this far with no end in sight .
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Old 11-19-2019, 07:05 PM   #67
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Donald Penn had the highest grade of any LT this week. We have not talked about him enough, dude has been damn good

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How about overall in the season so far?
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Old 11-19-2019, 07:47 PM   #68
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65.0 Pass block grade which is solid for a guy who didn't even play much in 2 years
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Old 11-19-2019, 07:56 PM   #69
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Junkies called DH "Byron Leftwich or Jason Campbell"

LOL How do they have a show still?
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Old 11-20-2019, 04:39 AM   #71
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I hope the 1-15 season forces Snyder to make a major change: Fire BRUCE or leave him as VP Prez but no GM duties. Then have hie a hard-charging, NFL-worthy HC who makes Snyder give him TOTAL CONTROL. I wonder if Snyder is desperate and/or smart enough to such a move. Until now heís tried a wide range of HC, but insisted on having his lackey GM make personnel decisions. Can he give up control to bring in a PHD to change a 20 years of a total ďamateur hourĒ.


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I hope the 1-15 season forces Snyder to make a major change: Fire BRUCE or leave him as VP Prez but no GM duties. Then have hie a hard-charging, NFL-worthy HC who makes Snyder give him TOTAL CONTROL. I wonder if Snyder is desperate and/or smart enough to such a move. Until now heís tried a wide range of HC, but insisted on having his lackey GM make personnel decisions. Can he give up control to bring in a PHD to change a 20 years of a total ďamateur hourĒ.


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Old 11-20-2019, 09:49 AM   #74
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I'm not sold that Callahan won't be the HC next yr
Yeah, that whole "month between touchdowns" thing probably impressed Allen enough to get the recommendation. And the way that he just inserted Haskins in the lineup with no hiccups and gave him a smooth transition to the NFL would have every front office impressed.
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Yeah, that whole "month between touchdowns" thing probably impressed Allen enough to get the recommendation. And the way that he just inserted Haskins in the lineup with no hiccups and gave him a smooth transition to the NFL would have every front office impressed.
Lets not let Kevin O'Connell slide on this either.
Boy wonder has done nothing with the passing game since he took over as OC.


Callahan looks like a tired old man forced to raise one of his grandkids.

He looks like he wants out.
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