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10-19-2011, 10:38 AM | #31 |
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Re: John Beck Era Begins
Good move, I think Beck will have a few bumps on the road, but will be better overall.
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10-19-2011, 10:39 AM | #32 | |
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Like this move, not expecting Beck to win games for us w/30+ throws a game, just want to see him make enough plays & reduce TOs & we'll be at least avg. |
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10-19-2011, 11:02 AM | #33 | |
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Yeah i was wondering the same thing when i was originally typing my comment.... But i do think Rex is good at somethings. He gets the ball off very quick and spreads it around well. I also think hes fairly acurate within 15 yards. What makes him so bad in my opinion is the fact that you can count on him making extremely horrible decisions when given the opportunity. He also has very bad "pocket presence" combined with poor ball security. He is also bad at reading and throwing into zones. I personally think that while he likes playing football games he isn’t passionate about the sport, which can be okay for some skill positions (WR, Art Monk) but not for the QB position. I guess im more saying that he was being forced to do things that we all knew he was bad at, rather than relying solely on his capabilities.
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10-19-2011, 11:03 AM | #34 | |
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Watch Shanny draft a 1st round QB talent in the draft he likes this year and it will be different, I guarantee you. PS: I think Beck will be better than Grossman to the effect of Beck not necessarily being a much better QB than Grossman, but that he is more of a game manager than a risk taker. He won't turn the ball over as much as Rex . Make the throws he needs to make and let the running game and defense win games. Just like what the Jets did with Sanchez going to the AFC title game. However, with our offensive line injuries, I think that line of thinking could be threatened and we take steps back unfortunately. I hope these back up guys can step up.
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10-19-2011, 11:08 AM | #35 | |
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If you go back to each number you listed and erase hindsight you would probably agree that was the best move at the time. I mean you are even saying at #10 this is his best move right now with what he has; two weeks down the road it may look like the dumbest move ever.
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10-19-2011, 11:13 AM | #36 |
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Good point. Maybe Ponder will get hurt, giving DMac more starts.
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10-19-2011, 11:14 AM | #37 | |
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Also third times a charm maybe he got it right this time with the QB |
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10-19-2011, 11:21 AM | #38 | |
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10-19-2011, 11:22 AM | #39 | |
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Remember #5 equaled 2 + 3?
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10-19-2011, 11:25 AM | #40 | |
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The 1st decision was that the rest of the team could not sustain a raw qb's growth. Thus, his actions all were predicated on building a fundamentally sound team where he could draft his guy, and have him have success. From that, the only questionable decision was getting rid of Campbell, but I have already said that, atleast in my opinion, that was simply moving a guy to clear out past history, so when he does bring in his guy, there are no divided loyalties. |
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10-19-2011, 11:26 AM | #41 |
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This move gives me a little more faith in the coaches. I sometimes feel like MS and KS are stubborn as hell and you know they wanted it to work out with Rex to show how smart they are with choices. Glad they can do what's best. Because with Beck, we might be getting the same thing as Rex, but maybe not. With Rex, we know exactly what's going to happen. 50 percent decent games, 50 percent horrible.
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10-19-2011, 11:31 AM | #42 |
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Re: John Beck Era Begins
So we got our starting QB for Doug Dutch.
I don't know whether to cheer for a brilliant personnel move or to cry because we have a Doug Dutch-quality starting QB.
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10-19-2011, 11:36 AM | #43 |
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Re: John Beck Era Begins
One (of many) things that worry me about Beck was the scramble where he fumbled the ball. I mean Holy Cow, nobody touched him, he just knocked it loose himself. I guess I believe we will see 1-3 turnovers a game with Beck at QB, just hope his mobility makes up for those ones.
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10-19-2011, 11:41 AM | #44 | |
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10-19-2011, 11:43 AM | #45 |
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Where are the bells and rays of sunshine sneaking through the clouds while making this announcement?
The Book of John has begun! John Beck will be the next morman QB in the NFL to go to the SUPER BOWL! He will have as many touchdowns as he has wives
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