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Old 10-28-2007, 04:56 PM   #136
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Is there a way to see how many official drops they had? I can't seem to find a place where they keep that stat.

How many drops do you think they had? (keep in mind, just because the ball hits a hand doesn't mean it's a drop, a drop is something that is easily catchable, but not caught.)
I saw two on one drive, one coming in the end zone.
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Old 10-28-2007, 05:35 PM   #137
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Jsarno, I've got to wonder why you get so emotional about Vince Young and where your hatred of him comes from.
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Old 10-28-2007, 05:39 PM   #138
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Jsarno, I've got to wonder why you get so emotional about Vince Young and where your hatred of him comes from.
Well, I do live in Texas Longhorn country.

Again, I don't hate him...just his game. He's the most overrated player since Vick came out of college, and a top 5 ever.
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Old 10-28-2007, 05:44 PM   #139
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I saw a lot of the game and I can say VY got no help from his WRs. Drops all over the place.
Then you also saw just how pathetic a majority of his throws were?
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Old 10-28-2007, 05:53 PM   #140
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Well, I do live in Texas Longhorn country.

Again, I don't hate him...just his game. He's the most overrated player since Vick came out of college, and a top 5 ever.
In college he was an absolute beast. But, if you don't like the Longhorns I can understand why you don't like him as a player.
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:18 PM   #141
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In college he was an absolute beast. But, if you don't like the Longhorns I can understand why you don't like him as a player.
I think it really has more to do with how everyone put him on a pedastal last year.
I am not a big fan of Texas that's for sure, but I didn't really hate his game in college...it grew from the day he made the Titans teams to now. He's really just not very good.
So maybe the seed was planted in college, and after everyone loved him last year that made it grow to what it is today.
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:19 PM   #142
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Then you also saw just how pathetic a majority of his throws were?
I didn't watch the game...but I would wager your comments hold true since he usually has poor throws.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:00 PM   #143
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Re: Vince Young overrated?

IMO Vince Young is the most underrated player in the NFL. All he does is win, yet he's bashed nonstop.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:05 PM   #144
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When it comes to grading young QBs, I don't look at stats . . . I look at Ws and how they guy plays in the 4th quarter under pressure. I think Vince Young is the best QB from last year's crop . . . so far.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:13 PM   #145
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When it comes to grading young QBs, I don't look at stats . . . I look at Ws and how they guy plays in the 4th quarter under pressure. I think Vince Young is the best QB from last year's crop . . . so far.
Good to know...he's now 12 out of 21 in terms of wins. (not bad, but not great). He has a 78.4 passer rating in the 4th quarter this year, and a 70.5 passer rating in the 4th in 06. Not a very good couple of gauges to judge him by.
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:03 AM   #146
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IMO Vince Young is the most underrated player in the NFL. All he does is win, yet he's bashed nonstop.
It is because there are people like Jsarno (not intended as insult) who care a good deal about stats. Marino did not win an SB but was voted to the HOF because he had good stats and records that are being broken one after another.

I am with you, he is an underrated player. But shhhh...be quiet, don't let Jsarno know you think he is UNDERRATED, that might give him a heart attack.
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:42 AM   #147
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Re: Vince Young overrated?

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Is there a way to see how many official drops they had? I can't seem to find a place where they keep that stat.

How many drops do you think they had? (keep in mind, just because the ball hits a hand doesn't mean it's a drop, a drop is something that is easily catchable, but not caught.)
washingtonpost.com

You can't break down individual games with this, but you can look at totals in targets and "passes not caught" which is not actually the same as a "drop" since it includes both incomplete passes the receiver couldn't catch and drops the receiver should have caught but didn't.
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:06 PM   #148
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Re: Vince Young overrated?

Just because I know you guys have been waiting for this:
Vince Young threw for a meezly 110, 0 tds, 2 ints. 25 yards rushing and 1 td.

His qb rating is down to 61.5.
In 7 games, he has thrown for only 855 yards, 3 tds and 8 ints.

FYI, he has a 54.8% comp % in the 4th quarter this year, the worst of all 4 quarters. Also and unimpressive 71.0 rating in the 4th.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:21 AM   #149
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Re: Vince Young overrated?

Both have the same weak supporting cast, though vince has a better group of OL right now

campbell maybe is a better passer at this stage, but vince has more intangibles,leadership , a better athlete and improviser which translates into win in the field.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:15 PM   #150
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Re: Vince Young overrated?

The Titans win because they have the #2 defense in the league, with the #1 rush defense. They have only allowed 12.6 points per game in the games where Vince Young started. Remember Kyle Orton in 2005? He won tons of games, but nobody said it was because of him.
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