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Old 11-08-2007, 06:57 PM   #151
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Re: Vince Young overrated?

not a big fan of Vince but they do keep on winning. Think he a ok QB
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Old 11-09-2007, 11:56 PM   #152
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The Titans win because they have the #2 defense in the league, with the #1 rush defense. They have only allowed 12.6 points per game in the games where Vince Young started. Remember Kyle Orton in 2005? He won tons of games, but nobody said it was because of him.
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Old 11-10-2007, 12:35 PM   #153
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In his second year, he is as good as any QB in the NFL after Brady/Manning, he is in the mix with Romo, Big Ben, Favre, Eli, Brees, etc. I think he is the next big QB on the rise, and will be looked at as # 1 in 5 or so years.
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nope, it's Eli
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nope, it's Eli
Considering there are a TON of people that criticize Eli and NONE that do Young, I am afraid you're wrong. A lot of people say Eli sucks, including Giants fans, how many do you hear that say Young sucks????

Give it time though, Eli started with a ton of hype and took a lot of time before people called him overrated, the same will happen with young. People are still dazzled by his legs and overlook his shortcomings with his arm. Vick's luster also died out, Young's will too.
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Considering there are a TON of people that criticize Eli and NONE that do Young, I am afraid you're wrong. A lot of people say Eli sucks, including Giants fans, how many do you hear that say Young sucks????

Give it time though, Eli started with a ton of hype and took a lot of time before people called him overrated, the same will happen with young. People are still dazzled by his legs and overlook his shortcomings with his arm. Vick's luster also died out, Young's will too.
You're right, any qb who runs has a much higher % of injury, and he already has one coming, he's on the Madden cover.
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Considering there are a TON of people that criticize Eli and NONE that do Young, I am afraid you're wrong. A lot of people say Eli sucks, including Giants fans, how many do you hear that say Young sucks????

Give it time though, Eli started with a ton of hype and took a lot of time before people called him overrated, the same will happen with young. People are still dazzled by his legs and overlook his shortcomings with his arm. Vick's luster also died out, Young's will too.
Why are you so convinced that Young isn't going to continue to improve with experience? It wasn't until Eli's third season that people really started dumping on him. If Young has not improved half-way through next season then a post like this might become appropriate, but as of right now Young is doing pretty well for someone with barely a season's worth of starts.

And why do you insist on continuing to compare him to Vick? They might both be athletic but I think it is clear at this point that they are quite different when it comes to character. That matters on the field as well as off of it.
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Why are you so convinced that Young isn't going to continue to improve with experience? It wasn't until Eli's third season that people really started dumping on him. If Young has not improved half-way through next season then a post like this might become appropriate, but as of right now Young is doing pretty well for someone with barely a season's worth of starts.

And why do you insist on continuing to compare him to Vick? They might both be athletic but I think it is clear at this point that they are quite different when it comes to character. That matters on the field as well as off of it.
1- It's been a season and a half of him playing. Sure he's still "green" but he's getting worse, not better. Today yet again, he looked bad. He actually threw for a lot of yards (257) but had 2 costly int's and only 1 td.
Look at his 4th quarter today. He did throw the 1 td on the first play of the 4th quarter, but after that, he went 3 and out (including a fumble). Then on the 2nd series, got 1 first down, then another first down on a penalty, then had a turnover on downs. On the last series, he was going to go 3 and out, but threw an INT instead. He's no leader on the field, and he doesn't have any talent throwing the ball, only running it.
2- I never once attacked his character, and when I compare him to Michael Vick, it's on the field only. I know it's been a while but I have said this more than once on this thread. And I don't think it matters as much as you think. Vick won a lot of games, and look at his character. Fact is, Vick was a better QB overall, and I think Vick sucked.

About Eli, I'd take Eli 20 times over Young. Eli is a good qb, and he can win a game with his arm. He can be a leader, and he has been...he's been too inconsistant to be considered great at this point though.

Yet another poor performance by Vince Young and still people don't see him for what he is. Obviously my work is still cut out for me.
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Why don't we post a thread that talks about our bad football team, and not some good team with a decent QB.
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Why don't we post a thread that talks about our bad football team, and not some good team with a decent QB.
Oh, there will be plenty of those...and no one is stopping you from doing so.

PS- We're talking about a good team with an extremely overrated QB. (just needed to clarify there.)
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1- It's been a season and a half of him playing. Sure he's still "green" but he's getting worse, not better. Today yet again, he looked bad. He actually threw for a lot of yards (257) but had 2 costly int's and only 1 td.
Look at his 4th quarter today. He did throw the 1 td on the first play of the 4th quarter, but after that, he went 3 and out (including a fumble). Then on the 2nd series, got 1 first down, then another first down on a penalty, then had a turnover on downs. On the last series, he was going to go 3 and out, but threw an INT instead. He's no leader on the field, and he doesn't have any talent throwing the ball, only running it.
2- I never once attacked his character, and when I compare him to Michael Vick, it's on the field only. I know it's been a while but I have said this more than once on this thread. And I don't think it matters as much as you think. Vick won a lot of games, and look at his character. Fact is, Vick was a better QB overall, and I think Vick sucked.

About Eli, I'd take Eli 20 times over Young. Eli is a good qb, and he can win a game with his arm. He can be a leader, and he has been...he's been too inconsistant to be considered great at this point though.

Yet another poor performance by Vince Young and still people don't see him for what he is. Obviously my work is still cut out for me.
You don't have to convince me....I've watched him play here....DEFINITELY overrated. This was a game where their D struggled and they couldn't run the ball so it was all on him....and he failed miserably. Your comparison to Vick is right on in the fact that both are not very smart guys, they can't make quick decisions in their head about coverage so they just run....and while that worked in college, it doesn't cut it in the NFL.
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You don't have to convince me....I've watched him play here....DEFINITELY overrated. This was a game where their D struggled and they couldn't run the ball so it was all on him....and he failed miserably. Your comparison to Vick is right on in the fact that both are not very smart guys, they can't make quick decisions in their head about coverage so they just run....and while that worked in college, it doesn't cut it in the NFL.
Exactly...Thank you.
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He's looking pretty smart, accurate, and impressive tonight, notwithstanding an awful lot of key drops by his wideouts.
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He's looking pretty smart, accurate, and impressive tonight, notwithstanding an awful lot of key drops by his wideouts.
It should easily be 20-14. Roydell Williams just flat out dropped a beautiful pass from VY. I think his passing game and NFL IQ need some polish, but his leadership, heart, arm, and legs are fantastic.
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You don't have to convince me....I've watched him play here....DEFINITELY overrated. This was a game where their D struggled and they couldn't run the ball so it was all on him....and he failed miserably. Your comparison to Vick is right on in the fact that both are not very smart guys, they can't make quick decisions in their head about coverage so they just run....and while that worked in college, it doesn't cut it in the NFL.
I thought the kid looked pretty good tonight. His wr's are the worst in the NFL.
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