Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Board Management > Thread Hell


Vince Young overrated?

Thread Hell


 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-22-2007, 09:51 PM   #106
Franchise Player
 
jsarno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 31 Spooner St.
Age: 39
Posts: 9,534
Re: Vince Young overrated?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha View Post
An 11-9 record for a rookie QB on a team that was awful and doesn't have a loaded WR corps or a proven RB is pretty good.
Just like Grossman going 13-3 and to the super bowl in his first starting GIG is pretty good too, but where did that get him?

All I ask is that in 5 years when Young's luster has worn off and he has won nothing, and everyone finally sees that he can't throw for shit, you remember that I was the only one that called it.
__________________
Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin
jsarno is offline  

Advertisements
Old 10-22-2007, 09:55 PM   #107
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 44,484
Re: Vince Young overrated?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsarno View Post
280 yards passing by collins, and a 4th quarter comeback with only 1 minute left. By some here, that means that Collins is the best ever. (of course we know otherwise)

When was the last time Young threw for 280 yards and scored 38 points in a game you ask????
Well the answer is NEVER. Young's career high is 249 yards, and has only thrown for 200 or more yards 4 times in 21 games.
Also, the titans have scored over 30 only 3 times in his 21 games, and the career high is 31 (twice).
Wow.
Yeah Collins is one hell of a field goal kicker. 42 pass attempts for 280 yards and no TDs isn't exactly jaw dropping
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline  
Old 10-22-2007, 09:58 PM   #108
Franchise Player
 
jsarno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 31 Spooner St.
Age: 39
Posts: 9,534
Re: Vince Young overrated?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
Yeah Collins is one hell of a field goal kicker. 42 pass attempts for 280 yards and no TDs isn't exactly jaw dropping
LOL...280 yards is more than Young dreams about (as my other stats show if you read them).
He obviously got them in field goal range, more than Young can say since his career high is 31 points. Any way you slice it, Collins played better than Young's career bests.

Nice try SS, but that argument holds no water.
__________________
Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin
jsarno is offline  
Old 10-22-2007, 09:59 PM   #109
Franchise Player
 
Sheriff Gonna Getcha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 34
Posts: 8,317
Re: Vince Young overrated?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsarno View Post
Just like Grossman going 13-3 and to the super bowl in his first starting GIG is pretty good too, but where did that get him?

All I ask is that in 5 years when Young's luster has worn off and he has won nothing, and everyone finally sees that he can't throw for shit, you remember that I was the only one that called it.
Why is it that you made excuses for Joey Harrington's failures (e.g., no one could be successful behind that line, with those wideouts), but you won't make similar excuses for Young? Young is arguably playing behind a line that isn't any better than Atlanta's, with RBs who aren't as good at Atlanta's, and with wideouts that no other club would want to have. Young is also a 2nd year QB. Yet, for some unknown reason, Vince Young stinks while Joey Harrington (a guy who's been dumped by 2 clubs and benched by the third) is a victim of circumstance.

In my opinion, Young isn't some stud QB, but he is certainly better than Harrington and he has shown signs of promise.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha is offline  
Old 10-22-2007, 10:09 PM   #110
Franchise Player
 
jsarno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 31 Spooner St.
Age: 39
Posts: 9,534
Re: Vince Young overrated?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha View Post
Why is it that you made excuses for Joey Harrington's failures (e.g., no one could be successful behind that line, with those wideouts), but you won't make similar excuses for Young? Young is arguably playing behind a line that isn't any better than Atlanta's, with RBs who aren't as good at Atlanta's, and with wideouts that no other club would want to have. Young is also a 2nd year QB. Yet, for some unknown reason, Vince Young stinks while Joey Harrington (a guy who's been dumped by 2 clubs and benched by the third) is a victim of circumstance.

In my opinion, Young isn't some stud QB, but he is certainly better than Harrington and he has shown signs of promise.
Harington is not overrated...he is what he is. Everyone dogged on Harrington like he was the worst QB that ever walked. I don't think he's anything special, I just don't think he's the worst ever.

LOL...the 5th best rushing attack in the NFL at 144.0 yards per game and he's behind a line that is comparable to Atlanta? I don't think so.

Eric Moulds is a hall of famer, Roydell Williams is immensely talented, Jones is pretty talented himself, and Gage is OK. So I dare say that Young makes them look bad, not the other way around. Those WR numbers look bad because Young is bad. If you only throw for say 10 attempts a game, and you throw to say 5 different players, then the MAX someone can get is 2 receptions per game, those numbers will look horrible, but it has nothing to do with their talent, it has to do with the opportunity thrown their way.
__________________
Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin
jsarno is offline  
Old 10-22-2007, 10:10 PM   #111
Franchise Player
 
jsarno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 31 Spooner St.
Age: 39
Posts: 9,534
Re: Vince Young overrated?

I guess the real question should be, why do people blindly think Young is good? I have offered stat after stat and none were refuted, so why ignore it all?
__________________
Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin
jsarno is offline  
Old 10-22-2007, 10:10 PM   #112
Franchise Player
 
jsarno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 31 Spooner St.
Age: 39
Posts: 9,534
Re: Vince Young overrated?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Taylor View Post
I know, who cares really?
LOL...you do, or you wouldn't be here reading it. LOL.
__________________
Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin
jsarno is offline  
Old 10-22-2007, 10:16 PM   #113
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 44,484
Re: Vince Young overrated?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsarno View Post
280 yards passing by collins, and a 4th quarter comeback with only 1 minute left. By some here, that means that Collins is the best ever. (of course we know otherwise)

When was the last time Young threw for 280 yards and scored 38 points in a game you ask????
Well the answer is NEVER. Young's career high is 249 yards, and has only thrown for 200 or more yards 4 times in 21 games.
Also, the titans have scored over 30 only 3 times in his 21 games, and the career high is 31 (twice).
Wow.
How come you don't consider the 69 yards rushing (with a TD) that Vince had in addition to his 249 yard passing day? Or do you?
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline  
Old 10-22-2007, 10:19 PM   #114
Franchise Player
 
Sheriff Gonna Getcha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 34
Posts: 8,317
Re: Vince Young overrated?

I surrender. Everyone except you jsarno has their blinders on. If only just about the entire NFL could see past the B.S., they would all realize that they are wrong, you are right, and Vince Young sucks.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha is offline  
Old 10-22-2007, 11:31 PM   #115
Special Teams
 
TheBigD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Washington DC area
Posts: 215
Re: Vince Young overrated?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsarno View Post
Just like Grossman going 13-3 and to the super bowl in his first starting GIG is pretty good too, but where did that get him?

All I ask is that in 5 years when Young's luster has worn off and he has won nothing, and everyone finally sees that he can't throw for shit, you remember that I was the only one that called it.
As I was watching CBS and saw that the Titans were about to kick the winning FG, I was laughing and thinking to myself, Jsarno is going to have a field day if Collins wins this game for them. Who knows, maybe you are right after all.
TheBigD is offline  
Old 10-23-2007, 06:01 AM   #116
The Starter
 
dgack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: The ATX (formerly Balmer)
Posts: 1,125
Re: Vince Young overrated?

I think of Vince Young and go... "meh". Overrated? Underrated? More like, "well, I'm glad my team's fate isn't tied to the guy".

He's obviously so popular because of the Cinderella aspect of the Rose Bowl game, but I don't think he'll ever be a franchise QB. I always think of Young as a Mike Vick-style QB who's more dialed down on the run-first side and more dialed-up on the passing game.

And without the dog-killing and pot busts.
__________________
"To bring a Sherm Lewis in to a Jim Zorn and whoever his offensive coordinator is, it's like bringing in another man to help teach you how to make better love to your wife or something." -- Tre Johnson
dgack is offline  
Old 10-23-2007, 08:19 AM   #117
‎\m/
 
Mattyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 41
Posts: 79,418
Re: Vince Young overrated?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsarno View Post
Nothing like overreacting eh matty?

Even if you sucked at your job, if you were making millions, would you retire?
Kinda seems like what you're doing here. You jumped on here like this last game proved that the Titans are better off without VY or something.
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
Mattyk is offline  
Old 10-23-2007, 09:03 AM   #118
Playmaker
 
djnemo65's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: MA
Age: 33
Posts: 2,836
Re: Vince Young overrated?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsarno View Post
If I were Tenn I'd trade him while people like you still thinks he can thrown and "win games" with his whopping 11-9 record. Then I'd go get a REAL Qb.
JSARNO, I think they should do a reality show where you become the GM of an NFL franchise. Seriously, I would pay anything to see that.
djnemo65 is offline  
Old 10-23-2007, 09:08 AM   #119
‎\m/
 
Mattyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 41
Posts: 79,418
Re: Vince Young overrated?

Quote:
Originally Posted by djnemo65 View Post
JSARNO, I think they should do a reality show where you become the GM of an NFL franchise. Seriously, I would pay anything to see that.
I'd pay to see a lot of people here try to run a franchise, or coach a team.

Hey, that might actually be a cool idea for a show, SmootSmack you need to bubble this up to some of your peeps at ESPN.
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
Mattyk is offline  
Old 10-23-2007, 12:54 PM   #120
The Starter
 
dgack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: The ATX (formerly Balmer)
Posts: 1,125
Re: Vince Young overrated?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk72 View Post
I'd pay to see a lot of people here try to run a franchise, or coach a team.

Hey, that might actually be a cool idea for a show, SmootSmack you need to bubble this up to some of your peeps at ESPN.

Hey, Millen won that contest FAIR AND SQUARE!
__________________
"To bring a Sherm Lewis in to a Jim Zorn and whoever his offensive coordinator is, it's like bringing in another man to help teach you how to make better love to your wife or something." -- Tre Johnson
dgack is offline  
 

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.56542 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25