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Ok now I'm Fing confused. Please tell me how AH being offered in a trade in order to pick up McNabb constitutes AH is not being traded? It was confirmed by the Eagles.

Everyone get off your high horse and look at the facts.

I too saw a comment made by Mike Shanahan stating we was basically not calling teams and trying to see what they would give for him. In other words he is not trying to trade AH. BUT..... he also stated if the right trade scenario came along he would look into it to see if it benifited the Skins.

I know PFT is not the best news source, but they got their info from the Washington Post this time....
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/18/shanahan-says-there-have-been-no-haynesworth-trade-talks-at-all/]Shanahan says there have been no Haynesworth trade talks, at all | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

No different then PFT though, I agree someones telling a lie.

[QUOTE]Hey, if you're gonna lie, you may as well lie big.[/QUOTE]

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Here ya go....

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/09/shanahan-calls-haynesworth-trade-talk-speculation/]Shanahan calls Haynesworth trade talk "speculation" | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

[QUOTE]"There is nothing to clarify," Shanahan said. "It is just speculation. He's part of the organization. I am just looking for him to come in and work and be like everyone else. [B]No, we're not going to trade him at all, unless someone gives us something we would have to consider -- that's pretty standard with any player on your roster. [/B] He's a pretty smart guy. He's really talented. I think I can get that out of him.''
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[quote=SBXVII;689721]Ok now I'm Fing confused. Please tell me how AH being offered in a trade in order to pick up McNabb constitutes AH is not being traded? It was confirmed by the Eagles.

Everyone get off your high horse and look at the facts.

I too saw a comment made by Mike Shanahan stating we was basically not calling teams and trying to see what they would give for him. In other words he is not trying to trade AH. BUT..... he also stated if the right trade scenario came along he would look into it to see if it benifited the Skins.

I know PFT is not the best news source, but they got their info from the Washington Post this time....
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/18/shanahan-says-there-have-been-no-haynesworth-trade-talks-at-all/]Shanahan says there have been no Haynesworth trade talks, at all | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

No different then PFT though, I agree someones telling a lie.[/quote]

The easiest way to spread rumors in the world of sports is "sources said" nobody knows who these sources are. When you want to drive a story of your own just make-up something/anything and say sources said it. Some people have a tendency to believe everything they read.

There has been a lot of eroneous reporting in the Haynesworth case.

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[quote=SBXVII;689721]Ok now I'm Fing confused. Please tell me how AH being offered in a trade in order to pick up McNabb constitutes AH is not being traded? It was confirmed by the Eagles.

Everyone get off your high horse and look at the facts.

I too saw a comment made by Mike Shanahan stating we was basically not calling teams and trying to see what they would give for him. In other words he is not trying to trade AH. BUT..... he also stated if the right trade scenario came along he would look into it to see if it benifited the Skins.

I know PFT is not the best news source, but they got their info from the Washington Post this time....
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/18/shanahan-says-there-have-been-no-haynesworth-trade-talks-at-all/]Shanahan says there have been no Haynesworth trade talks, at all | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

No different then PFT though, I agree someones telling a lie.[/quote]

AH was part of the very preliminary discussions with Philly back in February

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/18/redskins-are-putting-out-the-word-that-theyre-taking-a-quarterback/]Redskins are putting out the word that they're taking a quarterback | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

Right now, I'm interpreting this as a message to McNabb's agent to "get that latest contract extension offer signed, or enjoy choosing between Oakland and Buffalo next year."

I do have a strong suspicion (actually, more than a personal suspicion) that this might be more than a bluff. At least that: the Redskins haven't decided against taking Jimmy Clausen with the 4th pick.

Certainly though, it's no more likely than on the day we made the McNabb trade. Surprisingly, it's just not less likely.

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[quote=GTripp0012;689734][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/18/redskins-are-putting-out-the-word-that-theyre-taking-a-quarterback/]Redskins are putting out the word that they're taking a quarterback | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

Right now, I'm interpreting this as a message to McNabb's agent to "get that latest contract extension offer signed, or enjoy choosing between Oakland and Buffalo next year."

I do have a strong suspicion (actually, more than a personal suspicion) that this might be more than a bluff. At least that: the Redskins haven't decided against taking Jimmy Clausen with the 4th pick.

Certainly though, it's no more likely than on the day we made the McNabb trade. Surprisingly, it's just not less likely.[/quote]
Add this to Kyle Shanahan's OL comments, and it seems like a not to subtle ploy to get Seattle/Cle/Buffalo to pull the trigger on a trade. 4 days and counting to round 1.

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I think it's a lot of things, serving a lot of purposes. I do think it's calucated, and not a coincidence. I just don't think it's utter bullsh-t, as a lot of people are going to read it as.

I think there's some fire here.

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When listening to offers for him, I was referring to the ESPN video on the Redskins' mini-camp. The reporter they had sent said that when speaking to Shanahan about Haynesworth, the coach said they were listening to offers but were not actively dealing him ... While they may say that they are not looking to trade him right away, it certainly seems like something they are considering

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Also: what is intentioned by suggesting they'll take "a quarterback"? That it doesn't matter who is available? We're just going to take whoever.

Next face of the franchise? Eh, whatever we can get.

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[quote=GTripp0012;689740]Also: what is intentioned by suggesting they'll take "a quarterback"? That it doesn't matter who is available? We're just going to take whoever.

Next face of the franchise? Eh, whatever we can get.[/quote]

Not necessarily, I think they would be happy with either Bradford or Clausen. One is going to be there at #4 unless the Rams, Detroit or Tampa make a trade. Only the Rams and Tampa could use a QB, but I think Tampa wants something else.

At this point though I think we are hillaciously smoke screening in order to move down to get more picks. I can see them being satisfied with our LT positions right now even though we fans are not. We have McNabb so I don't see us picking up a QB. RB is set for now unless we are thinking power back. TE is set. WR has some question with Kelly, and ARE's spot is still available.

Offensively:
LT
QB
WR

Defensively:
LB
FS
CB

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[quote=SBXVII;689767]Not necessarily, I think they would be happy with either Bradford or Clausen. One is going to be there at #4 unless the Rams, Detroit or Tampa make a trade. Only the Rams and Tampa could use a QB, but I think Tampa wants something else.

At this point though I think we are hillaciously smoke screening in order to move down to get more picks. I can see them being satisfied with our LT positions right now even though we fans are not. We have McNabb so I don't see us picking up a QB. RB is set for now unless we are thinking power back. TE is set. WR has some question with Kelly, and ARE's spot is still available.

Offensively:
LT
QB
WR

Defensively:
LB
FS
CB[/quote]

I say that DL is a bigger need than the secondary.

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[quote=SBXVII;689767]Not necessarily, I think they would be happy with either Bradford or Clausen. One is going to be there at #4 unless the Rams, Detroit or Tampa make a trade. Only the Rams and Tampa could use a QB, but I think Tampa wants something else.

At this point though I think we are hillaciously smoke screening in order to move down to get more picks. I can see them being satisfied with our LT positions right now even though we fans are not. We have McNabb so I don't see us picking up a QB. RB is set for now unless we are thinking power back. TE is set. WR has some question with Kelly, and ARE's spot is still available.

Offensively:
LT
QB
WR

Defensively:
LB
FS
CB[/quote]


Like your post this is how i see it:

Offensively:
LT
QB - next yr.
WR - if possible pick up a veteran, although i think the guys we have will shine this year.

Defensively:
LB
FS
CB- we have enough competition in camp already[/QUOTE]

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[quote=GTripp0012;689734][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/18/redskins-are-putting-out-the-word-that-theyre-taking-a-quarterback/"]Redskins are putting out the word that they're taking a quarterback | ProFootballTalk.com[/URL]

Right now, I'm interpreting this as a message to McNabb's agent to "get that latest contract extension offer signed, or enjoy choosing between Oakland and Buffalo next year."

I do have a strong suspicion (actually, more than a personal suspicion) that this might be more than a bluff. At least that: the Redskins haven't decided against taking Jimmy Clausen with the 4th pick.

Certainly though, it's no more likely than on the day we made the McNabb trade. Surprisingly, it's just not less likely.[/quote]

For as close as MS plays things to the vest, I think it's really, really unlikely that any "leaked" information about what we're going to do with that 4th pick has any weight.

I think we're trying to drum up interest by another team in that 4th pick. We have SOOO many needs, and the fewest picks of ANY team in the league. Ignoring the offensive line to take a QB at #4 would be extremely stupid unless it's Bradford, and there's no chance he's gonna be there.

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[quote=SBXVII;689767]Not necessarily, I think they would be happy with either Bradford or Clausen. One is going to be there at #4 unless the Rams, Detroit or Tampa make a trade. [B]Only the Rams and Tampa could use a QB, [/B]but I think Tampa wants something else.

At this point though I think we are hillaciously smoke screening in order to move down to get more picks. I can see them being satisfied with our LT positions right now even though we fans are not. We have McNabb so I don't see us picking up a QB.[B] RB is set for now unless we are thinking power back. [/B]TE is set. WR has some question with Kelly, and ARE's spot is still available.

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The 1st point in bold- Tampa has exactly a 0% chance of drafting a QB with their first pick. They picked Josh Freeman in the 1st round last year, and he played some pretty good games down the stretch. No way they go that route again. I think it's a near certainty they take McCoy, Suh, or Berry with their first pick, unless someone offers a king's ransom to move up to their spot.

To 2nd point- we're probably set for now, but I still think there's a chance that either Parker or Johnson won't make the final cut. I had to bet, I'd say someone camp trash will be our treasure (relatively speaking), and/or we use one of our late picks on a back.

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I just hope Detroit passes on Okung so we get him at 4. Hopefully they draft another Tackle in round 4 or 5, and get a Linebacker, and a RB or DB. That is all I expect, and all I hope for out of this draft.

We are stuck with the 4 picks we have, let's just hope they make the best of it, and fill some holes.

Trading a starting player, or Campbell, for a late 4th, or worse, round pick only hurts the team in my opinion.