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[quote=SmootSmack;893292]Well he has a condo down there so let's not get carried away. He's probably just visiting his home away from home[/quote]

Miami is a good option for him but again atm anything is possible

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4. Washington Redskins: Mike Shanahan has had a rough first couple of years in D.C., and given owner Dan Snyder’s impatience, it’s possible he’s coaching for his job. Manning would be a huge gamble, and there would have to be a fallback option, but I’m pretty sure it’s one neither the coach nor owner would shy away from taking. This wouldn’t be Donovan McNabb 2, a horror-flick sequel; people close to Shanahan say he regards Manning as the greatest quarterback of all time, and he and his son – offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan – would give this veteran quarterback a lot more power and leeway than they did McNabb. The Redskins would need to go out and get Manning some weapons, perhaps making a run at familiar targets like Reggie Wayne and/or Pierre Garcon in the process. The team’s overall talent level isn’t overly impressive, but a healthy Manning could change the vibe in a hurry. The weather isn’t horrible, and the move would be incredibly sexy: Among other things, he’d have the chance to battle younger brother Eli and the defending Super Bowl champion Giants twice during the 2012 season. With the Shanahans’ play-calling chutzpah and acumen and Manning’s immense knowledge, this could be a legendary combination.


from Michael silver yahoo sports

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[quote=CultBrennan59;893287]Peyton Manning reportedly according to John Keim on Twitter, has just landed in the airport at Miami...[/quote]

Just the beginning of Manning and/or his agent meeting and talking on the phone with every interested team. They would be foolish not to before making a decision.

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[IMG]http://static.nfl.com/static/content/catch_all/nfl_image/Peyton_quad_120307_CP.jpg[/IMG]

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Really hoping that he signs elsewhere, just don't have a good feeling about him being here.

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[quote=SmootSmack;893292]Well he has a condo down there so let's not get carried away. He's probably just visiting his home away from home[/quote]

He just came from Florida with Irsay, don't think he's down there on vacation

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[quote=SmootSmack;893292]Well he has a condo down there so let's not get carried away. He's probably just visiting his home away from home[/quote]

Who in their right mind would spend wintertime in Miami when they can spend it in Indy?

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PROBLEM!
Currently, Terrence Austin is wearing #18 for the B & G. PM will Never go for that. Damn, this could queer the whole deal........

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People keep saying Houston but they forget Schaub isn't chopped liver

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[quote=redskins5044;893285]same can be said if we trade for RG3 and he is bust or gets injured.[/quote]

Never implied we should do that, at least in that comment. RG3 will probably coast too much. The most I would consider giving is the same as the Manning trade. I think we are in a bad situation right now with no great solution.

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[quote=SkinItup;893308]Never implied we should do that, at least in that comment. RG3 will probably coast too much. The most I would consider giving is the same as the Manning trade. I think we are in a bad situation right now with no great solution.[/quote]


we have the 6th overall pick, and 50M to spend.. We are far from bad shape.
NTM we have football heads running the show now

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I really dont think we will land Manning. I would love us to, but I think he wouldnt want to battle his brother twice a year. I believe he will go AFC, and I believe its between the Jets and the Titans, and maybe the Cardinals.

[QUOTE=Mechanix544;893313]I really dont think we will land Manning. I would love us to, but I think he wouldnt want to battle his brother twice a year. I believe he will go AFC, and I believe its between the Jets and the Titans, and maybe the Cardinals.[/QUOTE]

Cards are in the nfc

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LOL at people doubting Peyton Manning as a possible Redskin starting QB.

1. RG3 is very intriguing but he has won 0 THAT IS ZERO NFL games
2. we are talking arguably the best NFL QB ever
3. who cares if its a 2 year fix, would you like to go 6-10 the next 2 seasons?
4. he would not play if he thought he could get injured permanently
5. this is not a money motivated move for him

I can't believe I am saying this, but I want the old Danny boy running the show on this negotiation.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;893316]Cards are in the nfc[/quote]

I know that, that why after the two AFC teams, I included a comma - , - . But thanks for clearing that up for me and the rest of us.

[QUOTE=Mechanix544;893319]I know that, that why after the two AFC teams, I included a comma - , - .[/QUOTE]

Gotcha

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[quote=CapitalDefense;893317]LOL at people doubting Peyton Manning as a possible Redskin starting QB.

[COLOR="Red"]1. RG3 is very intriguing but he has won 0 THAT IS ZERO NFL games[/COLOR]
2. we are talking arguably the best NFL QB ever
3. who cares if its a 2 year fix, would you like to go 6-10 the next 2 seasons?
4. he would not play if he thought he could get injured permanently
5. this is not a money motivated move for him

I can't believe I am saying this, but I want the old Danny boy running the show on this negotiation.[/quote]

So was Manning the month before [I]his[/I] draft.
Manning can get us two winning seasons?
BFD
Griffin could get us ten.
Manning has won the same amount of games for the Redskins as Griffin has.

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I think he will go down to two choices, miami (if they can meet his financial demands) or kansas city chiefs.

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[url]http://homelesszombie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/rg3.jpg?w=584&h=743[/url]

CHAMPIONSHIP!

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider]The Insider - Your daily source for news and commentary on the Washington Redskins, by Mike Jones. - The Washington Post[/url]

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[quote=Defensewins;893214]If Vincent Jackson and Garcon join Manning in SF, that is a power move.

Imagine Manning to Andre Johnson of the Texans and their running game and TE's. How could PManning not be thinking about that? I would.[/quote]

I like the 49ers D better though, and gore aint bad.

I don't think the 49ers or texans are going to pursue him, but those would be the best fits on his end as far as talent and whatnot.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;893296]4. Washington Redskins: Mike Shanahan has had a rough first couple of years in D.C., and given owner Dan Snyder’s impatience, it’s possible he’s coaching for his job. Manning would be a huge gamble, and there would have to be a fallback option, but I’m pretty sure it’s one neither the coach nor owner would shy away from taking. This wouldn’t be Donovan McNabb 2, a horror-flick sequel; people close to Shanahan say he regards Manning as the greatest quarterback of all time, and he and his son – offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan – would give this veteran quarterback a lot more power and leeway than they did McNabb. The Redskins would need to go out and get Manning some weapons, perhaps making a run at familiar targets like Reggie Wayne and/or Pierre Garcon in the process. The team’s overall talent level isn’t overly impressive, but a healthy Manning could change the vibe in a hurry. The weather isn’t horrible, and the move would be incredibly sexy: Among other things, he’d have the chance to battle younger brother Eli and the defending Super Bowl champion Giants twice during the 2012 season. With the Shanahans’ play-calling chutzpah and acumen and Manning’s immense knowledge, this could be a legendary combination.


from Michael silver yahoo sports[/quote]

Some weapons like Austin Collie, Brandon Stokely, Joseph Addai, Dallas Clark, Pierre Garcon, etc??? Yeah, Manning would have been nothing without those future Hall of Famers.

Great QBs make their own weapons, not the other way around.

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;893325][url]http://homelesszombie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/rg3.jpg?w=584&h=743[/url]

CHAMPIONSHIP![/QUOTE]

That's a great picture

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Manning today is only 35, on March 24th I believe, he will be 36. You could be looking at 5 solid years of play for PM. I want the guy in the B&G for all of those possible years.

There are many on this site that are so sold on RGIII that I don't believe they realize that if he does not work out, that move will have set this franchise back another 5 years.

Give me the QB who comes with less risk and the upside is a winning team again. We have not had a winning season since Gibbs last year in 07. I want to root for a winner again.

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Smoot, any inside word on where we stand in the Manning sweepstakes??

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;893331]Manning today is only 35, on March 24th I believe, he will be 36. You could be looking at 5 solid years of play for PM. I want the guy in the B&G for all of those possible years.

There are many on this site that are so sold on RGIII that [B]I don't believe they realize that if he does not work out, that move will have set this franchise back another 5 years.
[/B]
Give me the QB who comes with less risk and the upside is a winning team again. We have not had a winning season since Gibbs last year in 07. I want to root for a winner again.[/quote]
THAT is the other side of the coin. As you point out, there are no sure things. High risk....high reward?

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[quote=chewman;893337]Smoot, any inside word on where we stand in the Manning sweepstakes??[/quote]

As far as his interest in us? No

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[quote=Hog1;893339]THAT is the other side of the coin. As you point out, there are no sure things. High risk....[B]high reward[/B]?[/quote]

It is possible. There are plenty of reasons to believe that RGIII is perfect for us, but we have to give away so much for this kid. I just don't think we are in a position to give away two firsts and still build this team. AND if he is a bust well...... I guess there won't be much joy in ol DC any time soon.

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We know the doctor gave Manning clearance to play. However, we don't know about his arm strength. Assuming his arm strength is okay, we don't have the offensive line to protect him or a great group of receivers. I also don't have a good feeling that Peyton would want to come to DC with all the losing that's gone on here for years. Maybe Shanahan would make a difference - Manning might like to play for him. It's so tempting to go out and get Peyton Manning but there seems to be an awful lot of obstacles.....including the fact that so many other teams are in competition with us.

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[quote=Fan033;893345]We know the doctor gave Manning clearance to play. However, [B]we don't know about his arm strength.[/B] Assuming his arm strength is okay, we don't have the offensive line to protect him or a great group of receivers. I also don't have a good feeling that Peyton would want to come to DC with all the losing that's gone on here for years. Maybe Shanahan would make a difference. It's so tempting to go out and get Peyton Manning but there seems to be an awful lot of obstacles.....including the fact that so many other teams are in competition with us.[/quote]

There's a thread here somewhere about how he was recorded at Duke University throwing 35+ yard passes since his surgery. I didn't read the thread too much or check out the video so I don't know how legitimate it was.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;893346]There's a thread here somewhere about how he was recorded at Duke University throwing 35+ yard passes since his surgery. I didn't read the thread too much or check out the video so I don't know how legitimate it was.[/quote]

The video is legit (according to Mort)

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[quote=skinsfan69;893008]Haven't we been down this dog and pony show before? Why do fans always fall for this short term fix? I don't even see why Manning would come here. His RT and best TE are one puff away from being done. No wr's. Shaky o-line. I just don't see him coming here.[/quote]

While I agree with not going after the short term fix according to Mike Jones the Redskins will basically tell Peyton that they'll be able to fix those problems through free agency and possibly the draft.

[quote]The Redskins are expected to tell Manning of their plan to spend freely during free agency. With more than $40 million of cap space to work with, not only could Washington afford Manning, but the team also is expected to aggressively pursue an elite receiver – Vincent Jackson, Marques Colston and Pierre Garcon are expected targets – according to people familiar with the Redskins’ plans.

The Redskins also plan on bolstering their offensive line. They’re likely to add a right tackle this offseason, and could add a guard as well.[/quote]

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Why do some people assume that signing Manning is a short term fix?

We can continue with whatever plan the FO has to rebuild the team.

Peyton Manning just accelerates and elevates the quality of QB play and allows time to groom/try out several different QBs of the future while Peyton plays for 2-3 or more years.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;893348][quote]The Redskins are expected to tell Manning of their plan to spend freely during free agency. With more than $40 million of cap space to work with, not only could Washington afford Manning, but the team also is expected to aggressively pursue an elite receiver – Vincent Jackson, Marques Colston and Pierre Garcon are expected targets – according to people familiar with the Redskins’ plans.

The Redskins also plan on bolstering their offensive line. They’re likely to add a right tackle this offseason, and could add a guard as well. [/quote][/QUOTE]

We better not get Colston or Garcon. Garcon can't be relied on to catch the ball and is rather unproven where as Colston is a rich mans Gaffney.

If we break the bank on a #1 wide receiver, get a legitimate one.

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[quote=CapitalDefense;893317]LOL at people doubting Peyton Manning as a possible Redskin starting QB.

1. RG3 is very intriguing but he has won 0 THAT IS ZERO NFL games
2. we are talking arguably the best NFL QB ever
3. who cares if its a 2 year fix, would you like to go 6-10 the next 2 seasons?
4. he would not play if he thought he could get injured permanently
5. this is not a money motivated move for him

I can't believe I am saying this, but I want the old Danny boy running the show on this negotiation.[/quote]

Manning's not going to go to the highest bidder. He's going to go to the best situation. We're not even close to being in the running. Cards, Fins, Broncos, Jets and even Seattle are all more attractive options. No chance he wants to play in the NFC East.

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[quote=IrMitchell;893351]We better not get Colston or Garcon. Garcon can't be relied on to catch the ball and is rather unproven where as Colston is a rich mans Gaffney.

If we break the bank on a #1 wide receiver, get a legitimate one.[/quote]

If we get Manning, why not make a play for Blackmon at #6?

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[quote=44Deezel;893352]Manning's not going to go to the highest bidder. He's going to go to the best situation. We're not even close to being in the running. Cards, Fins, Broncos, Jets and even Seattle are all more attractive options. No chance he wants to play in the NFC East.[/quote]

How do you know this???

PM himself was quoted as saying he hasn't even thought about where he would end up playing....

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[quote=gmscud;893353]if we get manning, why not make a play for blackmon at #6?[/quote]

BINGO, you can add a vet and the best WR in the draft.

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[quote=CapitalDefense;893355]How do you know this???

[B]PM himself was quoted as saying he hasn't even thought about where he would end up playing...[/B].[/quote]

LOL. Really? No way that's true.

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag59;893348]While I agree with not going after the short term fix according to Mike Jones the Redskins will basically tell Peyton that they'll be able to fix those problems through free agency and possibly the draft.[/QUOTE

My POV comes from a thinking that signing PM is not a short term fix. It may be a short term fix to the QB position, but on the other hand if we get 4 or 5 solid years out of him then it really isn't that short as an average NFL career is 3 years.

Signing Peyton, gives us options in the draft. This is a deep draft and we can get some players out of this draft. We can grab a QB at some point ( by that I mean anywhere we please in the 1st to 7th round). We can trade back with our 6th pick and this would give the team more of a chance on hitting on some players. With more younger players we increase the chances of gaining quality players for this team.

Trading away the top picks in the next two drafts and 2 other picks for one guy who may be great, good, average, or just plain Ryan Leaf just doesn't seem really smart for a long term fix.