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[quote=FrenchSkin;1314521]As long as we get a compensatory 3 round pick I'm good with it [SIZE="1"].[/SIZE][/quote]

Lol. That was excellent. Well done!!

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1314519]Being a Commanders fan is weird.

We hope that whatever is reported is not only true at face value, but even worse. Just get rid of Captain Fuckboy. I'd be willing to go 0-34 the next 2 years (while watching every second of all 34 losses, knowing we won't win), with no 1st round picks, to get rid of him.[/quote]



This is kind of long but Peter King talks about how great the Washington franchise and the fan base was before Snyder owned them.

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/allegations-withholding-payments-league-true-122313312.html[/url]

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At this point I don't understand why Dan still wants to own the team. This is a dead franchise, he is hated by what fans are left. No one likes the re-brand except skinsfaninok lol. It just doesn't seem worth it to be under this kind of scrutiny all the time. He brought it on himself of course but why not just throw in the towel and move on w/ your life? Take your billions and enjoy yourself. Go on your boat to the south of France w/ 20 hookers and really enjoy life. Sounds like more fun than owning this team.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1314525]At this point I don't understand why Dan still wants to own the team. This is a dead franchise, he is hated by what fans are left. No one likes the re-brand except skinsfaninok lol. It just doesn't seem worth it to be under this kind of scrutiny all the time. He brought it on himself of course but why not just throw in the towel and move on w/ your life? Take your billions and enjoy yourself. Go on your boat to the south of France w/ 20 hookers and really enjoy life. Sounds like more fun than owning this team.[/quote]

Because he doesn't think like most guys on the street. He can't believe he's been wrong, it's not his fault, he's always been a success, so it doesn't compute he's failed as an owner. He wants to leave a legacy for his kids. If there was any hope of him selling up at this point I'd say it vanished when Tanya became a co-owner and stepped in. If anyone was going to persuade him to throw in the towel it was her, and if anything she's doubled down by stepping in. Only hope here is the NFL pressures him to sell (because he's ripped/pissed them off) or he gets convicted of a major crime. Not sure I see either happening at this point.

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[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/04/03/if-allegations-of-withholding-payments-from-league-are-true-daniel-snyder-likely-will-be-done/amp/[/url]

Not a huge PFT fan but man the hope is nice.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1314527]Because he doesn't think like most guys on the street. He can't believe he's been wrong, it's not his fault, he's always been a success, so it doesn't compute he's failed as an owner. He wants to leave a legacy for his kids. If there was any hope of him selling up at this point I'd say it vanished when Tanya became a co-owner and stepped in. If anyone was going to persuade him to throw in the towel it was her, and if anything she's doubled down by stepping in. Only hope here is the NFL pressures him to sell (because he's ripped/pissed them off) or he gets convicted of a major crime. Not sure I see either happening at this point.[/quote]

Yeah Dan is not stepping down willingly IMO. The more he's getting pushed out, the more he's going to get arrogant and fight for it. On Sheehan's podcast Thom Loverro talked recently of the time he and other journalists were contacted by the then WFT's PR department to rectify the fact that Snyder was not suspended by the league and just focusing on the stadium search, and that Dan wasn't fined, the team was...

He's not going away unless he's made to. That may very well still be a possibility though...

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[quote=JGisLordOfTheRings;1314533][url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/04/03/if-allegations-of-withholding-payments-from-league-are-true-daniel-snyder-likely-will-be-done/amp/[/url]

Not a huge PFT fan but man the hope is nice.

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I’m praying this is the end of his bullshit

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Early Christmas present yes please! Fingers crossed folks.. fingers crossed

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[quote=JGisLordOfTheRings;1314533][url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/04/03/if-allegations-of-withholding-payments-from-league-are-true-daniel-snyder-likely-will-be-done/amp/[/url]

Not a huge PFT fan but man the hope is nice.

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Florio can be pretty annoying...but he obviously has credible sources...so hoping this one is right!

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1314489]The NFL has already made it pretty clear that Dan isn't ever going anywhere. Argue with me about it, but I only point out that the known things he has done while owner continue to get worse and worse and he is still here, in no danger.

Cooking the books in any other company would find you in jail most likely, but not here. And even if he would be convicted of something, he most likely would serve his time and still be the owner. There's nothing short of MAYBE first or second degree murder, that would get him out. And I say Maybe because again, the league could and probably would be totally fine with Dan serving his time in prison and continuing to have people run the team in his absence. Plenty of people have been in prison and still maintained outside business interests / responsibilities.[/quote]

Sadly, I agree, although I hope we are both wrong.

Between the once fabled waiting list morphing into BS, reducing capacity of FedEx, StubHub purchases, and other things, Danny will pass this chicanery off as accounting errors.

I have said it before, but if your name is Mara, Tisch, Jones, or Lurie, you like having Danny as the Washington owner. You like it a great deal. A permanently crippled divisional opponent helps your record and his vulgar personality and corrupt management make you look like a saint.

Now, why are those abandoning the franchise wrong?

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[quote=JackLord;1314552]Sadly, I agree, although I hope we are both wrong.

Between the once fabled waiting list morphing into BS, reducing capacity of FedEx, StubHub purchases, and other things, Danny will pass this chicanery off as accounting errors.

[B]I have said it before, but if your name is Mara, Tisch, Jones, or Lurie, you like having Danny as the Washington owner. You like it a great deal. A permanently crippled divisional opponent helps your record and his vulgar personality and corrupt management make you look like a saint.[/B]

Now, why are those abandoning the franchise wrong?[/quote]

I say this about the workplace too, you always need a office idiot don't get him them fired because you never know how many firings you are away from being the office idiot. Always need a scapegoat.

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Snyder and his BS is just exhausting, can't imagine what the other owners think of him, they have to be seriously sick of his shit too

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If “integrity” mattered to Goodell and the NFL’s billionaire owners, then the claim that Ross offered bribe money to Flores to intentionally lose games in the 2019 season would have already launched a massive investigation into the validity of those claims. Simply put, the NFL is nothing if it does not have the trust of the viewing — and betting — public.

[url]https://boston.cbslocal.com/2022/02/02/nfl-drops-facade-of-integrity-brian-flores-stephen-ross-accusations/[/url]

An NFL owner bribed his own coach to lose games.

Its been crickets.

No news stories, no investigations.

Owners will protect their own, even Dan Snyder and Ross and Kraft and the other 28 owners.

If Ross isnt being investigated for effecting outcomes of games, then nothing matters when it comes to owners.

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"There is nothing more fundamental to the NFL's success -- and to the reputation of everyone associated with our league -- than upholding the integrity of the game," NFL commissioner Roger Goodell wrote in a letter to Ridley notifying him of his suspension. "This is the responsibility of every player, coach, owner, game official, and anyone else employed in the league. Your actions put the integrity of the game at risk, threatened to damage public confidence in professional football, and potentially undermined the reputations of your fellow players throughout the NFL.

"For decades, gambling on NFL games has been considered among the most significant violations of league policy warranting the most substantial sanction. In your case, I acknowledge and commend you for your promptly reporting for an interview, and for admitting your actions."

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33446869/nfl-suspends-atlanta-falcons-wr-calvin-ridley-least-2022-season-betting-games[/url]

Really wish some big name reporters would be making noise about Dolphins owner Ross bribing his coach ... but I guess the Schefters of the world suck at the NFL access teet.

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[quote=MTK;1314665]Snyder and his BS is just exhausting, can't imagine what the other owners think of him, they have to be seriously sick of his shit too[/quote]

I'm not so sure. On some level I expect the owners of Dallas, Phila, and NYG don't mind having one of their division rivals essentially permanently handicapped by bad ownership. And for that matter why wouldn't the rest of the NFC "like" having less competition in their conference.

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[quote=irish;1314711]I'm not so sure. On some level I expect the owners of Dallas, Phila, and NYG don't mind having one of their division rivals essentially permanently handicapped by bad ownership. And for that matter why wouldn't the rest of the NFC "like" having less competition in their conference.[/quote]

They don't care about winning as much as they care about making money. Seeing empty seats in one of the largest media markets in the country will definitely put you on the shit list of other owners.

Then bring bad press that draws congressional attention, to the point where congressional committees start taking testimony from team employees, they don't like that scrutiny and the risk it represents to all of their businesses.

If I'm an owner who operates on the up and up and doesn't have skeletons of my own in the closet, I'd want Snyder gone immediately. If I'm an owner with skeletons, I might be more inclined to rally round the family with a pocket full of shells.

The fact you haven't seen Snyder lambasted yet by other owners I think points to just how many have skeletons of their own.

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[quote=Schneed10;1314717]They don't care about winning as much as they care about making money. Seeing empty seats in one of the largest media markets in the country will definitely put you on the shit list of other owners.

Then bring bad press that draws congressional attention, to the point where congressional committees start taking testimony from team employees, they don't like that scrutiny and the risk it represents to all of their businesses.

If I'm an owner who operates on the up and up and doesn't have skeletons of my own in the closet, I'd want Snyder gone immediately. If I'm an owner with skeletons, I might be more inclined to rally round the family with a pocket full of shells.

[B]The fact you haven't seen Snyder lambasted yet by other owners I think points to just how many have skeletons of their own.[/B][/quote]

Exactly. They know that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

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The stuff with Snyder never really bothered me once the games started. But now it is just different. I just wish they'd get rid of him- or he moves the team to another city and we start over.

If the team ever started winning I just don't want him to ever hold any kind of trophy. Ever.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1314722]The stuff with Snyder never really bothered me once the games started. But now it is just different. I just wish they'd get rid of him- or he moves the team to another city and we start over.

[B]If the team ever started winning I just don't want him to ever hold any kind of trophy. Ever.[/B][/quote]

+1

It would pain me to see such a shitbag hoisting the Lombardi. Sell the team Dan.

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If we won a super bowl, Danny Boy would still not be respected by anyone. He has the mark of the beast.

Give us that damn Lombardi, we have 364 other days a year to hate that shithead.

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[quote=irish;1314711]I'm not so sure. On some level I expect the owners of Dallas, Phila, and NYG don't mind having one of their division rivals essentially permanently handicapped by bad ownership. And for that matter why wouldn't the rest of the NFC "like" having less competition in their conference.[/quote]

Never heard that before. ;)

Reminds me of this guy in my dorm at college. Complete screw up. Barely cracked a book. Friend of mine commented, [I]"What do I care? His behavior can only help my GPA and class rank."[/I]

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[quote=Schneed10;1314717]They don't care about winning as much as they care about making money. Seeing empty seats in one of the largest media markets in the country will definitely put you on the shit list of other owners.
[B]
Then bring bad press that draws congressional attention, to the point where congressional committees start taking testimony from team employees, they don't like that scrutiny and the risk it represents to all of their businesses.[/B]

If I'm an owner who operates on the up and up and doesn't have skeletons of my own in the closet, I'd want Snyder gone immediately. If I'm an owner with skeletons, I might be more inclined to rally round the family with a pocket full of shells.

The fact you haven't seen Snyder lambasted yet by other owners I think points to just how many have skeletons of their own.[/quote]

I think that's a really good point, and we may be getting closer to a point where even the owners who do have skeletons in their closet switch from "Let's not go after him because I don't want to be next" to "let's get rid of him before all that attention gets me caught too" ...

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[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/04/12/washington-commanders-dan-snyder-house-oversight-ftc/"]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/04/12/washington-commanders-dan-snyder-house-oversight-ftc/[/URL]

"allegedly involved withholding as much as $5 million in refundable deposits from season ticket holders and also hiding money that was supposed to be shared among NFL owners"

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[quote=Stacks42;1314879][URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/04/12/washington-commanders-dan-snyder-house-oversight-ftc/"]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/04/12/washington-commanders-dan-snyder-house-oversight-ftc/[/URL]

"allegedly involved withholding as much as $5 million in refundable deposits from season ticket holders and also hiding money that was supposed to be shared among NFL owners"[/quote]

And class action lawsuit in 5... 4... 3... 2...

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Once again we're in the headlines for all the wrong reasons. Thanks Danny.

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[quote=mooby;1314883]Once again we're in the headlines for all the wrong reasons. Thanks Danny.[/quote]

That dude is such a clown

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[quote=mooby;1314883]Once again we're in the headlines for all the wrong reasons. Thanks Danny.[/quote]

RR must be just so embarrassed

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[quote=Stacks42;1314879][URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/04/12/washington-commanders-dan-snyder-house-oversight-ftc/"]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/04/12/washington-commanders-dan-snyder-house-oversight-ftc/[/URL]

"allegedly involved withholding as much as $5 million in refundable deposits from season ticket holders [B]and also hiding money that was supposed to be shared among NFL owners"[/quote][/B]

Then in their second breath they said the money was not funds to be shared with the NFL. iT was money from a concert and a ND games at FedEx.

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[quote=Fishingfool;1314887][/B]

Then in their second breath they said the money was not funds to be shared with the NFL. iT was money from a concert and a ND games at FedEx.[/quote]

As I understand it they took income from NFL games and entered them in the books as income from the concerts and ND games so they would not have to share it with the NFL.

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[quote=mooby;1314883]Once again we're in the headlines for all the wrong reasons. Thanks Danny.[/quote]

At this point, it's all the right reasons. Get that fucker out of town.

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This last to be the last straw for this piece of shit.

C'mon baby!!!!

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[quote=mredskins;1314886]RR must be just so embarrassed[/quote]

I really doubt it. He knew what Dan and this organization was from the time he agreed to come here. And there's zero chance that in all his time in the NFL, he didn't know full well what Dan and this organization was BEFORE his time here.

If he had a shred of integrity he would resign. But he's still cashing Dan's checks and to me that says a lot. No one in the NFL would blame Ron if he decided to quit rather than continue to work for Dan.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1314897]I really doubt it. He knew what Dan and this organization was from the time he agreed to come here. And there's zero chance that in all his time in the NFL, he didn't know full well what Dan and this organization was BEFORE his time here.

If he had a shred of integrity he would resign. But he's still cashing Dan's checks and to me that says a lot. No one in the NFL would blame Ron if he decided to quit rather than continue to work for Dan.[/quote]

I thought you quit posting

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[quote=mredskins;1314898]I thought you quit posting[/quote]

Yeah, i'm basically done posting as far as fan related talk goes, but I mentioned in one of the other threads that I would like to stick around in some of the other threads on a limited basis, (video games / movies, grind my gears, etc...) but right now with this stuff heating up on Dan (again) it seems like a good time to hope against hope that this is finally the one that takes him out, even though most likely nothing will happen.

I would even be willing to entertain becoming a Commanders fan (ugh I can't believe I just said that) if Dan were to be removed.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1314897]I really doubt it. He knew what Dan and this organization was from the time he agreed to come here. And there's zero chance that in all his time in the NFL, he didn't know full well what Dan and this organization was BEFORE his time here.

[B]If he had a shred of integrity he would resign. But he's still cashing Dan's checks and to me that says a lot. No one in the NFL would blame Ron if he decided to quit rather than continue to work for Dan.[/B][/quote]

Disagreed. Would they give him a head coaching position too ?
The man has dedicated his life to succeeding in one of the most difficult jobs on the planet... And he should resign because his owner is a PoS ?

Should all Amazon workers resign right now too ? Should have all cheap clothes companies workers resigned after that warehouse collapsed in Bangladesh and 1 127 workers died working in shitty conditions for miserable pay ?
We are currently talking to each other using devices that in all likelihood include minerals extracted by kids in Congo, should we throw them away right away ?

Point is, in the way we consume and depending who we work for, we all directly support horrible things and horrible people. I'm not going to stand here and roast a guy for trying to make it in one of the toughest business ever. There are only 32 NFL head coaching positions on the planet, he has one of them, he should not resign for something he hasn't done.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1314900]Yeah, i'm basically done posting as far as fan related talk goes, but I mentioned in one of the other threads that I would like to stick around in some of the other threads on a limited basis, (video games / movies, grind my gears, etc...) but right now with this stuff heating up on Dan (again) it seems like a good time to hope against hope that this is finally the one that takes him out, even though most likely nothing will happen.

I would even be willing to entertain becoming a Commanders fan (ugh I can't believe I just said that) if Dan were to be removed.[/quote]

No offense man you been nice and all but you are kind of strange

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1314902]Disagreed. Would they give him a head coaching position too ?
The man has dedicated his life to succeeding in one of the most difficult jobs on the planet... And he should resign because his owner is a PoS ?

Should all Amazon workers resign right now too ? Should have all cheap clothes companies workers resigned after that warehouse collapsed in Bangladesh and 1 127 workers died working in shitty conditions for miserable pay ?
We are currently talking to each other using devices that in all likelihood include minerals extracted by kids in Congo, should we throw them away right away ?

Point is, in the way we consume and depending who we work for, we all directly support horrible things and horrible people. I'm not going to stand here and roast a guy for trying to make it in one of the toughest business ever. There are only 32 NFL head coaching positions on the planet, he has one of them, he should not resign for something he hasn't done.[/quote]

I do not completely disagree with you (I do not think he should resign), but we´re not talking the amazon worker here. That would be the commander´s secretaries, cleaning personell, greenkeeper and so on. People that depend on the job.

We´re talking about a very wealthy person that has more money than any of us will ever have taking a high impact job working directly beneath and with the pos. That is a mighty difference.

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[quote=TheGuyFromOverThere;1314907]I do not completely disagree with you (I do not think he should resign), but we´re not talking the amazon worker here. That would be the commander´s secretaries, cleaning personell, greenkeeper and so on. People that depend on the job.

We´re talking about a very wealthy person that has more money than any of us will ever have taking a high impact job working directly beneath and with the pos. That is a mighty difference.[/quote]

It is a huge difference that's true.

But the guy has dedicated his life to this, and he should give up his dream because his boss, not him, his boss, is a moron ?
I'm sorry but even the freakin french leftist that I am can relate to individual dreams and ambitions. To me that's a very unfair ask. All 31 other head coaches would be allowed to live their dream because luckily for them their bosses either aren't assholes or haven't been outed as assholes yet, but he couldn't... I know you're not saying he should resign, just trying to precise my point.

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Yeah, but you’re our freaking French leftist. [emoji12]

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[quote=calia;1314909]Yeah, but you’re our freaking French leftist. [emoji12]

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You bet I am ! :D