Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1278844]Prob so, if we are down to Sam Darnold or those 2 guys give me Darnold[/quote]

I don't see Darnold as an upgrade. There has been a lot written about the challenges he has faced with the Jets: Horrible OL, only one WR with a enough of a clue to run a decent route or even line up properly, dropped passes galore, etc. It's all true. Nevertheless, my personal observations of him show someone who has a long way to go to develop the necessary skills and techniques to play his position well. And, in my view, he just doesn't have any heat. I'd take a chance on Mariota over Darnold. At least Mariota can make special plays with his feet.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1278844]Prob so, if we are down to Sam Darnold or those 2 guys give me Darnold[/quote]

nfm.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

If there was a definition of a JAG QB then Kyle Allen is that. He is the ultimate back up QB and a very good one. But I doubt he's a 16 game starter.

It was very clear that after watching Heinike he obviously was better than anyone we saw under center last year. But can he stay healthy? Can he continue that level and maybe get better? Can he play at a high level w/ expectations? Just a lot of questions surrounding him. He needs to stay in the weight room this entire off season.

But for him to play as well as he did against the SB champs was just very impressive. How many drops did he have that game? He was accurate, threw w/ anticipation, he was mobile, we just haven't seen that level of play since Kirk. We finally saw that Cam Sims is pretty good once he got a QB in there that can get him the ball.

For me it was Stafford or bust. Since we could not land him then it's 100% draft and bring back Allen. You can't have 3 guys competing so to me it's Heinike and make a decision on the rookie or Allen.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1278863]If there was a definition of a JAG QB then Kyle Allen is that. He is the ultimate back up QB and a very good one. But I doubt he's a 16 game starter.

It was very clear that after watching Heinike he obviously was better than anyone we saw under center last year. But can he stay healthy? Can he continue that level and maybe get better? Can he play at a high level w/ expectations? Just a lot of questions surrounding him. He needs to stay in the weight room this entire off season.

But for him to play as well as he did against the SB champs was just very impressive. How many drops did he have that game? He was accurate, threw w/ anticipation, he was mobile, we just haven't seen that level of play since Kirk. We finally saw that Cam Sims is pretty good once he got a QB in there that can get him the ball.

For me it was Stafford or bust. Since we could not land him then it's 100% draft and bring back Allen. You can't have 3 guys competing so to me it's Heinike and make a decision on the rookie or Allen.[/quote]

Agree on everything here.

I imagine Ill feel a little let down in we dont upgrade the QB but once we win a game or two, play good complimentary offense with our top 10 D .. ill get over it.

makes next off season as a desperate one though (unless we draft Lance or Jones)

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

Not sure I can agree. From what I heard the playbook was simplified so much for Heinicke in the playoff game that it wouldn't be sustainable for 16 games. That performance was a one game stop gap. We will get a chance to see what he can do with a full playbook this year, see if he actually has NFL skills.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

Unless they trade up we will be stuck with a JAG in 2021, even if they sign Mariota or Cam or whoever

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

Yep, at this point we have to draft a QB in round 1 now. Letting Smith go and not getting a top FA QB (none are left) guarantees that we have to draft one this year.

Mac Jones, Kyle Allen and Heinicke it is.

I also think we're paying Heinicke too much to be a #3 QB, but Rivera seems like he has some loyalty to Allen.

Hopefully we get a chance to draft a QB like Jones, he could be gone before 19.

Lance will be gone. If we want him, we're trading up.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

We've seen way too many one game wonders come and go for me to get even remotely excited for Heinicke. Chances are he's a good backup at best. If he's the real deal then halle-fucking-lujah let's go

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

Asked about Cam Newton, Ron Rivera says he cant talk about it bc free agency hasnt started.
JP

Sooooo what does that mean?

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

FFS with Cam already, it's not happening

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=MTK;1278871]FFS with Cam already, it's not happening[/quote]

I don't want it to but I wouldn't say it's a legit no shot.. The way this QB carousel is falling, it is possible.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1278875]I don't want it to but I wouldn't say it's a legit no shot.. The way this QB carousel is falling, it is possible.[/quote]

I'll say it then, zero % chance.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1278870]Asked about Cam Newton, Ron Rivera says he cant talk about it bc free agency hasnt started.
JP

Sooooo what does that mean?[/quote]

It literally means he can’t talk about it. They can start negotiating with free agents next week I believe. Before that anything he says is a rules violation.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=MissouriSkin;1278885]It literally means he can’t talk about it. They can start negotiating with free agents next week I believe. Before that anything he says is a rules violation.[/quote]

We're not even in the legal tampering period so yeah, he's smart to not say anything about it.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=MTK;1278881]I'll say it then, zero % chance.[/quote]

LOL Don't go to vegas bro!