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[quote=GTripp0012;682421]Are you predicting we'll win the 2004 NFC East, too?[/quote]

It's starting to look like we are gearing up for a run in 2004, with our RBs and QBs.

I can't believe how aggravated/frustrated I am by this move...

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[quote=GTripp0012;682421]Are you predicting we'll win the 2004 NFC East, too?[/quote]

Yessir along with the Academy Award for best actress in The Blind Side

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[quote=GTripp0012;682429]Is this a bad time to ask the Eagles to send Reid and DeSean Jackson as well?[/quote]

If McNabb is good at tossing it to a little dude, then why can't we just use our own receivers?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;682420]I'm not picking at health, but he now regularly misses one or two games. So what he gives us isn't that much, and we know he :vomit: in the sb, not that we will get there before he moves on to the Vikings.[/quote]

Agree. but the move allows us to have a QB better than JC and at the same time gives us a great opportunity to cash in on JC.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;682436]If McNabb is good at tossing it to a little dude, then why can't we just use our own receivers?[/quote]"They suck" is the first thing that comes to mind, but I'm sure I can find other reasons.

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I've just read 26 pages on something I never even considered would ever really happen. Shock would be an understatement. It's hard to even comment on this. It will definitely take a while to sink in and by that time, there will probably be more changes. This was one hell of a curveball. What's next? I'm finally at a loss for words which at this time is probably for the best.

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[quote=GTripp0012;682429]Is this a bad time to ask the Eagles to send Reid and DeSean Jackson as well?[/quote]

No its not too late Not to quote Three Days Grace but it's never too late

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;682436]If McNabb is good at [B]tossing it to a little dude[/B], then why can't we just use our own receivers?[/quote]

Sorry, this is way too funny.

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This just doesn't seem like a new regime. Cerrato is smiling right now or is Snyder tweaking his roster on Madden 10.

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[quote=GTripp0012;682421]Are you predicting we'll win the 2004 NFC East, too?[/quote]

Yeah he lost his legs Gtripp. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22KUz-XgGh4]YouTube - Mcnabb to Desean Jackson vs redskins (2009)[/ame]

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;682406]Just got the news, your statement is what I keep thinking about.

There has been no contract discussion, so it's not outside the realm of possibility McNabb is traded on draft day. What do we know:

1) We're not "boxed in" on a starting LT or QB at #4.
2) The FO does not have enough faith in Campbell to go into the season with him as the starting option at QB.
3) We will likely be making more trades either right before or during the draft for picks in the 2-3 round range.

Let's say we stand pat, McNabb is a major upgrade over Campbell (if healthy) for the next two seasons. We will come away with one of the top 2 LTs or more picks in the first round, or both. What did we lose, our second rounder....who many here were saying to use on Colt McCoy. McNabb is light years ahead of what McCoy will ever be.[/quote]

Good post. And I totally agree with everything you said. I could see him traded on draft day, just not sure to whom.

One way or another, we've got to acquire more draft picks.

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Shefter just said JC will be traded for sure and possibly for a 2nd rd pick... He also said Shanny called JC and told him the teams plans.

Trevor Matich also just said the Skins could become an instant Playoff contender today.

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[quote=44ever;682438]Agree. but the move allows us to have a QB better than JC and [B]at the same time gives us a great opportunity to cash in on JC.[/B][/quote]

How, it's like playing poker, and showing your cards before the last raise. Do this on draft day and package all the deals. Do it now,and Buffalo knows when to call our bluff.

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[quote=GTripp0012;682421]Are you predicting we'll win the 2004 NFC East, too?[/quote]

Seriously. I mean, look at our offense! Larry Johnson, Clinton Portis, Willie Parker, Santana Moss, Donovan McNabb?? Wooot! Circa 2006, I'd be like, CHAMPIONSHIP!!

Sigh.....

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I honestly think McNabb can make us a legit contender only if we upgrade our Oline instantly.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;682446]Shefter just said JC will be traded for sure and possibly for a 2nd rd pick... He also said Shanny called JC and told him the teams plans.

Trevor Matich also just said the Skins could become an instant Playoff contender today.[/quote]

I just feel that Campbell has gotta be a better back up option than Charlie Whitehurst. I hope we get something for Campbell.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;682407]McNabb
2009 267 443 3553 60.3 8.02 60 22 10 35 92.9
Campbell
2009 327 507 [B]3618[/B] [B]64.5[/B] 7.14 84 20 15 43 86.4
and McNabb had....

Desean Jackson![/quote]And Campbell got a bunch of completions from screens and garbage time. More important to look at more detailed stats:

QB Rate - McNabb = 92.9, JC = 86.4
TD% (TDs / Pass Att) - McNabb = 5.0, JC = 3.9
INT % (INT / Pass Att) - McNabb = 2.3, JC = 3.0
Adjusted Net Yds per ATT (complicated) - McNabb = 6.9, JC = 5.6

McNabb - 5 Time Pro Bowler, JC.....

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gave up our 2010 2nd round pick and our 3rd or 4th next year!!!

Great trade!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Donovan will be the QB this year and for 4 - 6 years to come. NOw lets try to move 'los, JC, Carter and one of our TE's for some picks.

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I'll take the deal. McNABB is still good for a few years. draft a qb in the later rounds, let him grow the Skins will be fine.

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[url=http://www.theonion.com/articles/archie-manning-donovan-mcnabb-is-also-my-son,6534/]Archie Manning: "Donovan McNabb Is Also My Son" | The Onion - America's Finest News Source[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;682451]I honestly think McNabb can make us a legit contender only if we upgrade our Oline instantly.[/quote]Now that we have McNabb, it makes sense to trade our second rounder for Jared Gaither.

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In my opinion they gave too much. I guess Campbell will be traded and I'm sure will trade down to get that 2nd rounder back or a third rounder.

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I just heard. I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around this.

WTF? Is this a good move? Should I read this massive thread?

Are we trading back?

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Good lord, if we get a second round pick for Campbell I'll take that all day coming and going.

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No doubt Sammy there is no comparison.. JC has never been a Franchise QB. DMcNabb is a future HOF.. (Hopefully SB champion also :) JC deserves another shot in another city. I bet we get a decent pick for him.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;682453]And Campbell got a bunch of completions from screens and garbage time. More important to look at more detailed stats:

QB Rate - McNabb = 92.9, JC = 86.4
TD% (TDs / Pass Att) - McNabb = 5.0, JC = 3.9
INT % (INT / Pass Att) - McNabb = 2.3, JC = 3.0
Adjusted Net Yds per ATT (complicated) - McNabb = 6.9, JC = 5.6

McNabb - 5 Time Pro Bowler, JC.....[/quote]McNabb got just as many of his completions from dumpoffs as Campbell did. Fact: McNabb had 15 passes of 20+ yards and Campbell had 14. Calling that an upgrade is stretching: McNabb is simply less accurate.

He just got even more yards from down the field plays, which won't translate for all of the obvious reasons.

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[quote=12thMan;682461]Good lord, if we get a second round pick for Campbell I'll take that all day coming and going.[/quote]

And a 4th next year.

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[quote=steveo395;682061]I can't believe this. I have been spending the last 11 years bashing McNabb and now he's on my team. I hope he learns how to throw an accurate pass pretty quick.[/quote]

He's a winner, good enough for me. JC is a pretty good backup in case Mcnabb can't make it whole year too.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;682446]Shefter just said JC will be traded for sure and possibly for a 2nd rd pick... He also said Shanny called JC and told him the teams plans.

Trevor Matich also just said the Skins could become an instant Playoff contender today.[/quote]

If we get a 2nd for JC I will be very happy! I'm also happy that Shanny showed some respect by calling JC.

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How can you not be happy with this trade ... a 2nd rounder and a 3-4th next year and we will get that pick back by trading JC .. are you freaking kidding me ... SHANNY and ELWAY .. 2 SUPER BOWLS ????????? RING A BELL ??? JOHN ELWAY was 1 year older than McNabb when he took over ... then Elway had a superbowl mvp and oh yeah another title ... (espn) .... HAIL TO THE REDSKINS I WILL BE BACK IN FED EX FOR THE PHILLY GAME THIS YEAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[quote=wilsowilso;682460]I just heard. I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around this.

WTF? Is this a good move? [B]Should I read this massive thread[/B]?

Are we trading back?[/quote]Nope, just post 378 :)

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[quote=12thMan;682461]Good lord, if we get a second round pick for Campbell I'll take that all day coming and going.[/quote]That'd be the market rate.

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[quote=Mechanix544;682455][B]Donovan will be the QB this year and for 4 - 6 years to come. [/B]NOw lets try to move 'los, JC, Carter and one of our TE's for some picks.[/quote]

A motivated (PISSED OFF) Donavan McNabb!!!!!!!1

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I don't see the down side really. We needed OL at #4. McNabb is a proven QB not a roll of the dice at #37 for someone whose value we wouldn't see until next year anyway. JC just got that much more valuable to the teams that did not land McNabb. We won't know how good a move this was until the draft, but we just got better bargaining chips and are better for the next few years no matter who we drafted in the second round.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;682453]And Campbell got a bunch of completions from screens and garbage time. More important to look at more detailed stats:

QB Rate - McNabb = 92.9, JC = 86.4
TD% (TDs / Pass Att) - McNabb = 5.0, JC = 3.9
INT % (INT / Pass Att) - McNabb = 2.3, JC = 3.0
Adjusted Net Yds per ATT (complicated) - McNabb = 6.9, JC = 5.6

McNabb - 5 Time Pro Bowler, JC.....[/quote]

for a 1 year loaner with minimally better stats(my opinion only), we gave up the 37th pick and a 4th next year. McNabb is what he is, but what good does he do us when he goes to the Vikings, or whereever. In the end he will be a minor improvement over JC and we will have given up 2 useful picks. But what's done is done. C'est la guerre.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;682462]No doubt Sammy there is no comparison.. JC has never been a Franchise QB. [B]DMcNabb is a future HOF.. [/B](Hopefully SB champion also :) JC deserves another shot in another city. I bet we get a decent pick for him.[/quote]Thinking that they won't limit the voting to just his fan club, but I could be mistaken.

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Mike Shanahan is about as close to a QB developing god as there is in the current NFL. I'm predicting a huge ressurection of McNabb's career. No more Fat Andy and 5000+ passes a game. No more being forced to be a pocket passer all day. Bootlegs are a frequent feature in Shanny's O. McNabb maybe primarily a pocket passer now, but we know what his instincts are. O is from the same coaching tree. No idiot head coach AND D-coordinator revealing their ENTIRE POKER HANDS, if you get the metaphor, to the opponent. A workout regiment that is sure to improve the performance of even the scrubs on the team.
The mean is 8 wins, and the standard deviation is 2 wins, give or take.

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[quote=Mechanix544;682455]Donovan will be the QB this year and for 4 - 6 years to come. NOw lets try to move 'los, JC, Carter and one of our TE's for some picks.[/quote]

So he'll be our QB until he's 38-40 years old? Umm, no.

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