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[quote=Bucket;763292]We come out on offense throwing the ball downfield, and running wildcat.

We dont see that the rest of the game. Either the D made great adjustments after that 1st drive or we just failed in the playcalling[/quote]

...and how much of the disappearance of the Wildcat and our running game due to the "Let me carry the team on my shoulders attitude" of our QB for the next 4 years, I wonder?

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[quote=horse;763289]What a good game Donovan would have had if not for the f*cking drop and Santana of all people. Damnit f*cking damnit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

Or underthrowing Armstrong when he was wide open or throwing a pick when on a drive we could have tied the game.

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It is an every year thing. HTTR!

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I don't know--there were times where the playcalling was weak, but still--how many crucial drops? Why cant McNabb hit Armstrong in stride for a TD? Why does Moss pop the ball up in the air when it hits him in the hands for an INT? Why the **** does Reilly block a guy in the back who is already beat? Etc. For all the playcalling, you execute these plays and you win the game.

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Great to have old Rabach back in there! Really helped in the run game and with pass pro!:doh:

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STFU About the underthrow to Armstrong...

FFS learn some ****ing football fella's.. Mcnabb cannot make a 60 yard throw off his back foot with a Defensive Tackle smashing him in the face.

I don't know many QB's that can....

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[quote=JWsleep;763305]Great to have old Rabach back in there! Really helped in the run game and with pass pro!:doh:[/quote]

I think everyone here is hoping Rabach is as good as gone come the off season. If we had any O-line depth, I'd love for him to be cut mid-season.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;763290]Basically we suck at home, fedex is not a good home stadium.. No one fears going to Wsh. We played hard today and our D allowed LEss than 20 again but it's about scoring and we can't do that[/quote]We haven't been feared at home since playing at RFK. Fed Ex Field has never been a significant home field advantage.

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We were sold a bill of goods and with the euphoria of a new GM we went along with it. A QB is only as good as the players around him, and that isn't saying much. Dropped passes like this is inexcusable in the NFL. Again the top receivers were Cooley and Moss. AA did have the most yards off of two grabs, but all he does is catch bombs, not good for anything else. This franchise is doomed to mediocrity for a long time. Some of these guys like Cooley are going to figure to pack it up and leave to try and get a ring before they do become the very geezers we tend to acquire via FA, and then our rebuilding we become just that much more hard.

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Has nothing to do with play-calling nor does it have anything to do with McNabb wanting to do it all himself. It has everything to do with the lack of consistency, boneheaded penalties on special teams, and poor tackling on defense. It's basically summed up like this. As much as the defense making some good stops in the second half, all of that goes out the window when you can't stop a 41 year old man with a broken ankle before he runs for a first down. Offense has no consistency and when you're one-dimensional, you're not going to win many ball games whether if you're playing a 7-3 team or a 3-7 team. There really isn't any excuses. This team doesn't have the ability to win when it counts. Not this year anyway.

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I can only hope we see sometime in these last 5 weeks the offense have more than one good-great drive...

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[quote=Bucket;763307]STFU About the underthrow to Armstrong...

FFS learn some ****ing football fella's.. Mcnabb cannot make a 60 yard throw off his back foot with a Defensive Tackle smashing him in the face.

I don't know many QB's that can....[/quote]

Not the first time DM has underthrown a ball though. We also have a shitty o-line, but DM made his share of mistake in this game.

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Was it worth trading away picks that could have provided players who could have benefited the team for 8 years for two players that will only benefit the team for three years or less, fellas? hmmm....

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[quote=Bucket;763307]STFU About the underthrow to Armstrong...

FFS learn some ****ing football fella's.. Mcnabb cannot make a 60 yard throw off his back foot with a Defensive Tackle smashing him in the face.

I don't know many QB's that can....[/quote]

I hear ya, but then you need to block the play properly--again, it's execution, not playcalling, at least not on that one. You had your speed guy 5 yards behind the D, and didn't score. Instead, you settle for 3. And be honest, fellas--how many of you thought we were going to get 7 when Armstrong didn't get in on the bomb? I sure didn't.

Anyway, we don't have the players. That's my obvious and much repeated point.

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I tell ya I know it was a penalty but that late flag really pisses me off it's like they were waiting to see if he scored.

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[quote=SouperMeister;763309]We haven't been feared at home since playing at RFK. Fed Ex Field has never been a significant home field advantage.[/quote]


It is the quality of the fans, not the stadium. I was a young child when we left Lanham, but my folks went to many Skins games at RFK and they said that place was rocking to the point the actual structure was rocking at times. The ticket prices weren't nearly as outrageous, so everyone could go, even the blue collar types. Those folks loved football and appreciated a winner. Now a lot of the people that go are just probably govt yuppies/ contracters looking for an excuse to party, and not big football fanatics. The Bighouse in Ann Arbor is the same way. They squeeze 112,000 + in there and it isn't as loud as Ford Field at times or back when Bo was the HC.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;763316]Was it worth trading away picks that could have provided players who could have benefited the team for 8 years for two players that will only benefit the team for three years or less, fellas? hmmm....[/quote]

Unfortunately Shanahan wouldn't have been the type of coach that would have stuck with Campbell and tough it out one bad year for the sake of rebuilding.

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[quote=Ruhskins;763323]Unfortunately Shanahan wouldn't have been the type of coach that would have stuck with Campbell and tough it out one bad year for the sake of rebuilding.[/quote]

Trading away Campbell was a good move. He would have not lasted for long with us regardless and grabbing a 4th rounder for the future(:D) for his poor performance in the past two years was damn good. In hindsight, I think having Rex in so that our draft position would have been higher would have been the better strategy.

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Maybe it's because our strong safety is ****ing deaf.

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Also, the phenomena isn't just Fedex, but everywhere. The real fans are locked out because of the outrageous pricing, and you just get s lot of the corporate types in there that really aren't all that into it. I think a part of it is also cultural, as we have been sort of cowed into being less vocal in public.

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[quote=horse;763321]I tell ya I know it was a penalty but that late flag really pisses me off it's like they were waiting to see if he scored.[/quote]

I agree with you here that was a hell of a late flag.

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[quote=Ruhskins;763323]Unfortunately Shanahan wouldn't have been the type of coach that would have stuck with Campbell and [B]tough it out one bad year for the sake of rebuilding[/B].[/quote]With Snyder as owner, the Skins have NEVER taken the long term approach to rebuilding. The quick fix might feel good at first, but we would be much better served long term if we keep our picks and build through the draft.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;763325]Trading away Campbell was a good move. He would have not lasted for long with us regardless and grabbing a 4th rounder for the future(:D) for his poor performance in the past two years was damn good. In hindsight, I think having Rex in so that our draft position would have been higher would have been the better strategy.[/quote]

Still, Shanahan doesn't come in here with a mediocre QB like Campbell or Rex. Maybe a younger coach, but not MS. I just wonder if we had stuck out with some of these players and come out with a better compliment of a draft picks for the 2011 draft by sacrificing the 2010 season. Although I think the uncertainty of the 2011 season makes you wonder if any team would do such thing.

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[quote=LMsexyAO;763326]Maybe it's because our strong safety is ****ing deaf.[/quote]

That's a low blow have some respect. Can you do what he does with 2 good ears???????

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[quote=SouperMeister;763330]With Snyder as owner, the Skins have NEVER taken the long term approach to rebuilding. The quick fix might feel good at first, but we would be much better served long term if we keep our picks and build through the draft.[/quote]

Shanahan does not deserved to be cut any slack either. He's a coach trying to be a GM, and the coach, aka the "must try to win every game" mentality, beat out the GM.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;763325]Trading away Campbell was a good move. He would have not lasted for long with us regardless and grabbing a 4th rounder for the future(:D) for his poor performance in the past two years was damn good. In hindsight, I think having Rex in so that our draft position would have been higher would have been the better strategy.[/quote]


Hindsight being 20/20 I agree with you Sir CP. We really needed those picks!!!!! This team is in need of such an overhaul that by the time we have a solid roster in place Donovan will be where Favre is now. Too many holes to fill, and still a sorry ass WR corp. I do not think even our newbie Wrs are the answer either. AA is great for 2-3 long balls a game, but not much more. It will be interesting to see if Austin can do anything, but I would bet not much.

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[quote=warpaint;763329]I agree with you here that was a hell of a late flag.[/quote]The flag for the Riley block was probably thrown right away. The stupid announcers teased us saying that there were no flags as Banks got to the end zone. Don't blame the refs for that.

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[quote=warpaint;763332]That's a low blow have some respect. Can you do what he does with 2 good ears???????[/quote]

It's a joke. Relax.

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[quote=SouperMeister;763337]The flag for the Riley block was probably thrown right away. The stupid announcers teased us saying that there were no flags as Banks got to the end zone. Don't blame the refs for that.[/quote]

Yeah I guess your right. Watching it on the T.V. just seemed like a real late call. The only good thing we can get from this is that Banks has that play maker thing going on.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;763333]Shanahan does not deserved to be cut any slack either. He's a coach trying to be a GM, and the coach, aka the "must try to win every game" mentality, beat out the GM.[/quote]


We were sold a bill of goods with him as well. He won 2 SBs with Elway, none after that, when his teams were still stacked with offensive firepower in a crappy division. Although I don't agree with a lot of what he says, I think Jason Whitlock of FoxSports might have hit on a grain of truth about MS and the Skins, in that he is just trying to help Kyle become the youngest HC in the NFL. Of course, the big payday doesn't hurt either!!!

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below average teams self destruct and that's what we did today.

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[quote=LMsexyAO;763338]It's a joke. Relax.[/quote]

That's cool, you came off like it wasn't. Hell I say crazy shit 2. It's all good to bad we lost today.

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Toughest loss of the season.

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lets say it like we usually do at this time every year. There is always next year......we will be better next year.......or cant wait till next year......the usual bs. There is no chance this team will beat the Giants, or any other team at this point. How can we let grandpa and his walker stroll for 8 yards to end the game?

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4 things that killed this team today:

1-Lack of execution, dropped passes by Moss, Armstrong, Cooley killing drives.
2-Penalties during KO return, like I've been saying all season, fix this shit!!
3-Coaching, 13 rushing attempts for a whole game, unacceptable.
4-Stopping the run and play action, all season long this has been a problem.

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[quote=Bushead;763349]Toughest loss of the season.[/quote]

Naw, I think the Sheagles stuffing us a new one in the recordbooks was worse.

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[quote=rstone1979;763354]lets say it like we usually do at this time every year. There is always next year......we will be better next year.......or cant wait till next year......the usual bs. There is no chance this team will beat the Giants, or any other team at this point. [B]How can we let grandpa and his walker stroll for 8 yards to end the game?[/B][/quote]

He had his wheelchair in top gear. You can't stop that.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;763359]4 things that killed this team today:

1-Lack of execution, dropped passes by Moss, Armstrong, Cooley killing drives.
2-Penalties during KO return, like I've been saying all season, fix this shit!!
3-Coaching, 13 rushing attempts for a whole game, unacceptable.
4-Stopping the run and play action, all season long this has been a problem.[/quote]


Turning the 10th ranked defense in 2009 to the 32nd ranked defense in 2010 with essentially the same personelle..... Quality Stuff right there. But at least we are getting more turnovers, that help us win games... oh wait

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And the Vikes win their first road game in over a year toooooooooo.....

I really thought we would win this game for many reasons. But there was just to many blown opportunities. Moss swatting that ball at our 10 was dumb. That return block penalty, damn. The play calling was [U]extremely[/U] conservative. And like Quake said, where the heck was Williams???

Not asking for much this season but, I guess winning 2 strait is even to much to ask.

Consistency, Consistency, Consistency. We need some of that.

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ithink it's a jinx whenever any team has an embarrassing streak going they play the redskins just in time to break it, didn't the Rams do something like that when they beat us to broke some crappy streak.