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[quote=calia;1314909]Yeah, but you’re our freaking French leftist. [emoji12]

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What about us British centrist's? I'm feeling left out now.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1314908]It is a huge difference that's true.

But the guy has dedicated his life to this, and he should give up his dream because his boss, not him, his boss, is a moron ?
I'm sorry but even the freakin french leftist that I am can relate to individual dreams and ambitions. To me that's a very unfair ask. All 31 other head coaches would be allowed to live their dream because luckily for them their bosses either aren't assholes or haven't been outed as assholes yet, but he couldn't... I know you're not saying he should resign, just trying to precise my point.[/quote]

As stated, I´m not for him giving up the job. If every top manager who´s boss is an asshole would quit his / her job most companies wouldn´t have top management any more. Tesla, Amazon, Commanders, Cowboys, VW... the list is nigh endless.

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I haven't been paying attention that much but what did Dan do now? It seems like every week it's something w/ this fucking guy. Did he scam the season ticket holders?? smh

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[quote=skinsfan69;1314929]I haven't been paying attention that much but what did Dan do now? It seems like every week it's something w/ this fucking guy. Did he scam the season ticket holders?? smh[/quote]

He's scamming the other NFL owners.

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Snyder and our franchise be like...

[IMG]https://media3.giphy.com/media/xUOwGpaKq5xjHNz8Bi/200.gif[/IMG]

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[quote=TheGuyFromOverThere;1314926]As stated, I´m not for him giving up the job. If every top manager who´s boss is an asshole would quit his / her job most companies wouldn´t have top management any more. Tesla, Amazon, Commanders, Cowboys, VW... the list is nigh endless.[/quote]

I think you are correct.

What is unsettling in this case is that Ron has basically become Danny's shield by being the public face of the franchise. Now, of course, that goes with the territory and Ron has done nothing wrong. But this gig requires a bit more.

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I do not think it is fair to suggest that RR give up his career because DS is a piece of crap. When the process finally catches up with Snyder and a new owner is needed, having RR on board may be an enticement to a new ownership group.

I have to say I have always assumed Danny was a joke and did not pay much attention to this anti-Snyder thread. But now .... I mean the NFL cannot let this go on can they?

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I think this is big news, because it will no longer depend on what Congress is doing:

[URL="https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/04/13/nfl-confirms-mary-jo-white-is-investigating-the-financial-allegations-against-the-washington-commanders/"]NFL confirms Mary Jo White is investigating the financial allegations against the Washington Commanders[/URL]

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[quote=Ruhskins;1314944]I think this is big news, because it will no longer depend on what Congress is doing:

[URL="https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/04/13/nfl-confirms-mary-jo-white-is-investigating-the-financial-allegations-against-the-washington-commanders/"]NFL confirms Mary Jo White is investigating the financial allegations against the Washington Commanders[/URL][/quote]

Can the Teflon Dan wiggle out of this one?

I’m so over this constant stream of bullshit, does this shit ever end? Even his wife is unbearable. If not now, when?

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This Snyder stuff is almost as bad as the constant Trump stuff. New day new allegations, yet nothing sticks. Wake me up when something actually does.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1314913]What about us British centrist's? I'm feeling left out now.[/quote]

We've got nothing but love for you too. Candidly, anyone outside of the DMV that follows this team is either crazy or unassailably virtuous. I choose to believe the latter.

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[quote=MTK;1314948]This Snyder stuff is almost as bad as the constant Trump stuff. New day new allegations, yet nothing sticks. Wake me up when something actually does.[/quote]

Agree, I'm tired of hearing about this dude

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[quote=Ruhskins;1314937]He's scamming the other NFL owners.[/quote]

If he is scamming the other owners out of money, no matter how small the amount it is, he has to go. There has to be a point where enough is enough. He's just bad for business.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1314954]If he is scamming the other owners out of money, no matter how small the amount it is, he has to go. There has to be a point where enough is enough. He's just bad for business.[/quote]

The NFL kicked Richardson out for SOO MUCH Less

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It really makes you wonder what HE is thinking...is he really sitting on the yacht reading these headlines day in and day out and not feeling anything, or constantly on the phone with his lawyers screaming this isn't my fault, now get me out of this crap! It has to be wearing him down some.....right? How much more until he just waves the white flag? Because I do not believe the other owners will force him out...he'll have to bow out and he may not be capable of doing that.

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[quote=Ohioskins;1314942]I do not think it is fair to suggest that RR give up his career because DS is a piece of crap. When the process finally catches up with Snyder and a new owner is needed, having RR on board may be an enticement to a new ownership group.

I have to say I have always assumed Danny was a joke and did not pay much attention to this anti-Snyder thread. But now .... I mean the NFL cannot let this go on can they?[/quote]

RR and the rest of the "Commanders Front Office " as it stands now should all stay . RR is a steady force that has done a great job with your team and has you guys on the brink of being pretty damn good add in he is respected around the league. No one in management from what I understand were in those positions when all this went down.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1314955]The NFL kicked Richardson out for SOO MUCH Less[/quote]

Yes but I get the feeling a douche like Dan has openly told them "if I go down I am taking everyone with me" and that the Gruden emails were a shot across their bows. Wonder whether they are secretly hoping congress deals with the issue for them

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1314960]Yes but I get the feeling a douche like Dan has openly told them "if I go down I am taking everyone with me" and that the Gruden emails were a shot across their bows. Wonder whether they are secretly hoping congress deals with the issue for them[/quote]

IMO, I don't think Snyder was ever liked that much to truly be an insider to many in the NFL Ownership circle.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1314955]The NFL kicked Richardson out for SOO MUCH Less[/quote]

Apparently Richardson was selling anyway so he just agreed to expedite the sale when the shit hit the fan.

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There seems to be an assumption that the other owners are going to be furious at Snyder for stealing from the rest of them by fudging the books when it comes to ticket revenues. I'm not sure it's safe to assume this isn't a common practice among all of the teams. If it is the case that most teams do this, the owners will be upset that Snyder let slip the secret, but they wouldn't be willing to kick him out the league. They would never set a precedent for removal that they're all guilty of. It's the entire reason the Wilkinson report was squashed.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1314954]If he is scamming the other owners out of money, no matter how small the amount it is, he has to go. There has to be a point where enough is enough. He's just bad for business.[/quote]

I heard on radio most teams end up owing a bit more in shared ticket revenue after the NFL audit. Skins have owed 70-80k in the past and that is considered nominal and acceptable.

With that said ....

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THE ALLEGATIONS: In DC, Maske & Jhabvala in a front-page piece note a letter sent from the House Committee on Oversight & Reform to the FTC yesterday said that the Commanders and Snyder “may have engaged in a troubling, long-running, and potentially unlawful pattern of financial conduct” that allegedly involved "withholding as much as $5 million in refundable deposits from season ticket holders and also hiding money that was supposed to be shared among NFL owners." The allegations were made by former VP/Sales & Customer Service Jason Friedman, who worked for the franchise for 24 years. The letter said that Friedman told committee members the team "maintained 'two sets of books,' including one set of financial records used to underreport certain ticket revenue to the NFL." The letter cites documentation that the team’s financial improprieties "may have extended to tickets registered in Commissioner Roger Goodell’s name." It details allegations that the Commanders "improperly attributed such revenue to being derived" from a Navy- Notre Dame college football game at FedExField or a Kenny Chesney concert so that it "wouldn’t be part of the NFL’s revenue-sharing pool."

[url]https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Daily/Issues/2022/04/13/Franchises/Commanders.aspx[/url]

"I was absolutely caught off-guard by the number of fans that turned out on Saturday night. Never before have we not sold at least 70,000 tickets for Notre Dame," Navy athletic director Chet Gladchuk said on Monday. "I really don't understand what happened and why so many people decided to stay home. By my estimation, there were thousands of no-shows."

Sources told The Capital that approximately 50,000 tickets were sold in advance, which would mean nearly 13,000 fans who paid for seats did not show up to use them. It was a dreary, rainy day and game time temperature for the 8 p.m. kickoff was 48 degrees.

[url]https://www.capitalgazette.com/sports/navy/ph-ac-cs-navy-notredame-attendance-110414-20141104-story.html[/url]

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[quote=Coff;1314975]There seems to be an assumption that the other owners are going to be furious at Snyder for stealing from the rest of them by fudging the books when it comes to ticket revenues. I'm not sure it's safe to assume this isn't a common practice among all of the teams. If it is the case that most teams do this, the owners will be upset that Snyder let slip the secret, but they wouldn't be willing to kick him out the league. They would never set a precedent for removal that they're all guilty of. It's the entire reason the Wilkinson report was squashed.[/quote]

In a Business that has only 32 Companies involved in it I would not assume that all the others companies/teams are doing it. It's not a good defense. While we may not have been privy to everything I don't believe anything was "squashed".JMO.

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Navy Notre game .. alleged they sold tickets for like $54 but reported in books it was $46 .. not sure how that effects the NFL revenue .. unless they claim the profit on books was from a non NFL game (Navy Notre Dame) and not from what it really was (illegal under reporting of nfl ticket sales)

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[quote=Coff;1314975]There seems to be an assumption that the other owners are going to be furious at Snyder for stealing from the rest of them by fudging the books when it comes to ticket revenues. I'm not sure it's safe to assume this isn't a common practice among all of the teams. If it is the case that most teams do this, the owners will be upset that Snyder let slip the secret, but they wouldn't be willing to kick him out the league. They would never set a precedent for removal that they're all guilty of. It's the entire reason the Wilkinson report was squashed.[/quote]

I think they would be mad the amount of attention he is attracting, rather than a few hundred thousand here or there. The leagues preferrential status is valuable to them and along side the Ross tanking allegations there is a real risk of federal and local investigations of the whole circus, not just the clown car.

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[quote=SunnySide;1314981]Navy Notre game .. alleged they sold tickets for like $54 but reported in books it was $46 .. not sure how that effects the NFL revenue .. unless they claim the profit on books was from a non NFL game (Navy Notre Dame) and not from what it really was (illegal under reporting of nfl ticket sales)[/quote]

This is a decent article about that game, now with what is going on it does make you wonder.

[url]https://www.capitalgazette.com/sports/navy/ph-ac-cs-navy-notredame-attendance-110414-20141104-story.html[/url]
Mids miffed by turnout for Notre Dame game

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1314983]I think they would be mad the amount of attention he is attracting, rather than a few hundred thousand here or there. The leagues preferrential status is valuable to them and along side the Ross tanking allegations there is a real risk of federal and local investigations of the whole circus, not just the clown car.[/quote]

Right, that's exactly the problem. Once again, Snyder's shenanigans are causing major headaches for the other owners. But they can't just get rid of him because they hate him or because he's a pain in the ass, they need to find a reason that can't also be used against them. And if many of them have also cheated Community Chest, then he gets another get-out-of-jail free card.

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So apparently [URL="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-295-commanders-strike-back-in-financial-scandal/id1553345193?i=1000558014339"]the team stroke back at those financial misconduct allegations[/URL] , and their letter to Congress came with over 80 pages of affidavits and documents, including an email sent to Jason Wright's account by Jason Friedman, saying he reflected on his mistakes and wanted back with the team...

There's a possibility they are just firing back out of desperation, but maybe those allegations are outright lies by a disgruntled ex employee... Maybe there's truth and lies on both sides.
Just a hunch but I'm thinking this may be nothing/not enough to lead to Snyder being kicked out.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1315181]So apparently [URL="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-295-commanders-strike-back-in-financial-scandal/id1553345193?i=1000558014339"]the team stroke back at those financial misconduct allegations[/URL] , and their letter to Congress came with over 80 pages of affidavits and documents, including an email sent to Jason Wright's account by Jason Friedman, saying he reflected on his mistakes and wanted back with the team...

There's a possibility they are just firing back out of desperation, but maybe those allegations are outright lies by a disgruntled ex employee... Maybe there's truth and lies on both sides.
Just a hunch but I'm thinking this may be nothing/not enough to lead to Snyder being kicked out.[/quote]

This is like my current office. Literally every year they say they are going to remodel and move us to a different section, every year everyone packs up as though its going to happen never does, so i refuse to pack. I tell everyone when i see a construction crew in the parking lot i will pack.

Just like DS unless i see something literally saying he has to sell and i see a for sale sign outside FedEx i consider all news smoke and DS will always be in power.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1315181]So apparently [URL="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-295-commanders-strike-back-in-financial-scandal/id1553345193?i=1000558014339"]the team stroke back at those financial misconduct allegations[/URL] , and their letter to Congress came with over 80 pages of affidavits and documents, including an email sent to Jason Wright's account by Jason Friedman, saying he reflected on his mistakes and wanted back with the team...[/quote]

From all accounts this Friedman guy sounds like a total douchebag. Not surprising as he worked there for 24 years.

That being said, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Go get 'em Jason!!

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VA AG's office is apparently investigating the team. Just saw a news blurb on that from Keim on ESPN.

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Raiders are also having problems!

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/raiders-president-dan-ventrelle-fired-blowing-whistle-alleged-mark-davis-misconduct-024548262.html[/url]



Raiders president says he was fired for blowing whistle on alleged Mark Davis misconduct

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I expect more folks to shine some light on these issues around the league … this is why Snyder isn’t gonna get booted by the other owners …

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[URL="https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/05/07/former-papa-johns-ceo-jerry-jones-and-dan-snyder-wanted-me-to-get-roger-goodell-fired/"]Papa John said Snyder and Jones tried to use him[/URL] to get Roger G. fired back in 2017.

Jones wanted him gone because he suspended Zeke for 6 games for (possibly) bullshit allegations of DV. Not sure why Snyder wanted him gone, but allegedly Snyder was mad they pay Roger like 50 mil a year and he's a drunk.

Nothing here is gonna change anything - Snyder is still bulletproof.

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[quote=mooby;1316361][URL="https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/05/07/former-papa-johns-ceo-jerry-jones-and-dan-snyder-wanted-me-to-get-roger-goodell-fired/"]Papa John said Snyder and Jones tried to use him[/URL] to get Roger G. fired back in 2017.

Jones wanted him gone because he suspended Zeke for 6 games for (possibly) bullshit allegations of DV. Not sure why Snyder wanted him gone, but allegedly Snyder was mad they pay Roger like 50 mil a year and he's a drunk.

Nothing here is gonna change anything - Snyder is still bulletproof.[/quote]

This is amazing. Nice find Mooby

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Report: NFL owners are “counting votes” toward a possible ouster of Daniel Snyder


[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/05/21/report-nfl-owners-are-counting-votes-toward-a-possible-ouster-of-daniel-snyder/[/url]

It would take 24 votes to get rid of him. Of course, that would be just the beginning, not the end. Snyder would surely fight hard to not be forced to sell his business. Although the various members of Club Oligarch accept the rules of life in the league, the antitrust violation that would come from 24 or more business owners forcing another business owner to sell his or her business is hiding in plain sight.

Still, the rest of the owners are moving toward their breaking point with Snyder.

This isn’t new. We’ve reported on multiple occasions that Snyder is on thin ice. During Super Bowl week, we confirmed past reporting from 106.7 The Fan in D.C. that, if the league had asked attorney Beth Wilkinson for a written recommendation at the conclusion of her 10-month investigation into chronic workplace misconduct in Washington, she would have recommended that Snyder be forced to sell.

The league retained Mary Jo White, not Wilkinson, to investigate more recent claims of misconduct made against Snyder by former Washington employee Tiffani Johnston. We reported on the day of Super Bowl LVI that, “As one ownership-level source recently put it, the Johnston allegations could be the straw that breaks the camel’s back for the league, prompting Snyder’s partners to take steps to push him out.”

That was before the allegations of financial improprieties. Those allegations included a claim from a long-time employee that money was being kept from Snyder’s partners.

As we’ve said plenty of times here and particularly on PFT Live, Snyder has had so many issues and controversies and allegations that, regardless of the merits of each one, at some point the mere existence of the issues and controversies and allegations become enough to justify pushing him out. At least one owner seems to agree with that position.

“There’s growing frustration about the Washington situation and not over one issue, but over how much smoke there is,” an unnamed owner told Bell. “I think everybody’s getting tired of it.”

The people not involved in NFL ownership definitely are tired of it. The question is whether the owners are willing to hold Snyder to a standard that potentially could be applied to them in the future. That’s why he got a pass last year. That’s why the league didn’t ask for a written report from Wilkinson. If a report had been created, Snyder’s ongoing ownership of the team would have become untenable. And every other current and future owner would have had to worry about the possibility that claims made by disgruntled employees could trigger the same outcome for them.

Again, they weren’t protecting Snyder by brushing it all under the rug. They were protecting themselves.

It’s gotten to the point where they possibly aren’t worried about that. Where they perhaps realize that none of them has to be concerned about being held to the same standard, because none of them would ever be involved in so many controversies.

The financial irregularities become the potential icing on the toxic cake. A source told us after the news broke that, if Snyder was indeed picking the pockets of his partners, it would be his “death knell.”

Bell echoes that reality with this quote from an unnamed owner: “If that happened, I think that’s the nail in the coffin.”

Bell also reports that owners “vehemently raised” concerns about the lack of a written report during league meetings in March. Again, Commissioner Roger Goodell and the league, while directly helping Snyder, was doing the rest of them a favor by not creating a road map for regime change. However, that absence of transparency has hounded the league for months, culminating in a Congressional investigation.

The irony continues to be that the release of emails that brought down Raiders coach Jon Gruden triggered a delayed effort to push the NFL and the Commanders or more transparency. Without the Gruden hit job, Congress most likely never would have shown up.

Some think the Gruden emails were released not by the league office but by Snyder. Whoever did it, the universe of suspects is small. If it turns out that Snyder lit the fuse on the bomb that ultimately blows up in his face, he’ll get what he deserves. Then again, there’s a pretty good chance he deserves it anyway.

Throw in the fact that there is evidence that he’s not really serving a suspension when he’s supposed to be, and it’s very difficult to feel bad for Snyder about the direction in which this could be heading.

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Wishful thinking G1 - but a man can wish.

I think the owners don't want to do anything that could come back to haunt them in the future - I'm sure there's plenty of skeletons around the NFL - but at the same time no doubt they're as sick of the headlines as we are.

Depends on Congress imo - if the financial allegations about withholding revenue prove true and severe enough - maybe that could be enough to topple the regime. But don't hold your breath.

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I want to see Dan embarrassed and humiliated. He needs to be humbled. He is a shitty person who stiffs employees, intimidates and treats people like shit. He has a serious Napoleon complex. Owning an NFL team is a privilege and should be treated as such. He failed at that and it is time to move on. Make it happen NFL.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1316821]I want to see Dan embarrassed and humiliated. He needs to be humbled. He is a shitty person who stiffs employees, intimidates and treats people like shit. He has a serious Napoleon complex. Owning an NFL team is a privilege and should be treated as such. He failed at that and it is time to move on. Make it happen NFL.[/quote]

The only humbling would be forcing him to sell the team. He still gets rewarded by earning 3-5 billion dollars by selling - he just no longer gets the joy of being an owner. That's the best case scenario. Worst case - he owns it until he dies and we suffer through 40 more years of misery.

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Speaking for myself , I want him out. I remember when they were the Redskins under a HOF Coach in Gibbs and they were iconic games, they made the Giants better. I would love to be back there and be the top division in the NFL.