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[quote=PFunk26;763377]ithink it's a jinx whenever any team has an embarrassing streak going they play the redskins just in time to break it, didn't the Rams do something like that when they beat us to broke some crappy streak.[/quote]

Well, the week being Sean Taylor week also seems to lend itself to embarrassments, like Gibbs' consecutive timeouts.

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Shanahan (s) weren't going to turn this around in one season. We're weird in that we'll beat good teams but lose to bad ones. All I can say is rebuilding year -- hopefully there are some good personnel decisions made over the offseason (Haslett gets fired, cough) and we come back better next year.

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[quote=PFunk26;763377][B]ithink it's a jinx[/B] whenever any team has an embarrassing streak going they play the redskins just in time to break it, didn't the Rams do something like that when they beat us to broke some crappy streak.[/quote]

Not the first time I've heard that. Seems everyone has their big day against the Redskins. Either breaking a losing streak or setting some sort of record. And what the F*** is with this team and getting flagged on big returns? This goes way back as well.

Remember those 89' Cowboys 1-15 of course they get their only win of the season against "yours truly"

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[quote=44ever;763382]Not the first time I've heard that. Seems everyone has their big day against the Redskins. Either breaking a losing streak or setting some sort of record. And what the F*** is with this team and getting flagged on big returns? This goes way back as well.

Remember those 89' Cowboys 1-15 of course they get their only win of the season against "yours truly"[/quote]

Or the two 0-4 teams(Cowgirls vs. Redskins) facing each other on Monday Night Football and the losers were also "yours truly"

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This team isnt going anywhere. Relax we still have our old memories!!!


[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjL-4nwnkkk]YouTube - Washington Redskins 1986 - Thanks to the 12th Man[/url]

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[quote=rbanerjee23;763381]Shanahan (s) weren't going to turn this around in one season. We're weird in that we'll beat good teams but lose to bad ones. All I can say is rebuilding year -- hopefully there are some good personnel decisions made over the offseason (Haslett gets fired, cough) and we come back better next year.[/quote]

We need playmakers on both sides of the ball. I don't care what he did some years ago against Dallas, Moss needs to go.

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[quote=DM72;763385]We need playmakers on both sides of the ball. I don't care what he did some years ago against Dallas, Moss needs to go.[/quote]

I agree with the talent. Redskins are lacking in it, which means you have to play perfectly to win.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;763383]Or the two 0-4 teams(Cowgirls vs. Redskins) facing each other on Monday Night Football and the losers were also "yours truly"[/quote]

Oh yeah, I almost forgot that one... :food-smil

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Calling for Moss to go is a dumb idea, considering he's been our most consistent receiver this year.

I know this loss sucks but if you adjust to the idea of having a maddeningly inconsistent football team that makes stupid penalties in the worst fashion possible (I'm looking at you Perry Riley, you didn't even have to block either of those guys because Banks was already past them) well then you won't be so disappointed after a loss like this. We are a .500 team, nothing more nothing less, and I kinda wouldn't be suprised if Mike Shanahan has tempered his expectations as such. Not to say he's not trying to win games, but I think he knows what to expect of us by now, which is a nice way of saying he knows we've got plenty of work that needs to be done for us to be consistently competitive.

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BTW, good job today Gano.

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[quote=44ever;763382]Not the first time I've heard that. Seems everyone has their big day against the Redskins. Either breaking a losing streak or setting some sort of record. And what the F*** is with this team and getting flagged on big returns? This goes way back as well.

Remember those 89' Cowboys 1-15 of course they get their only win of the season against "yours truly"[/quote]

yep, lost a 6 pack to my Bn Cmdr while in Panama. Skins have been letting me down for quite a while. Today is just another example.

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No one was expecting miracles from the coaching staff but I am disappointed we are so methodical on offense and defense. It's disgusting...
You can have a deliberate offense when your defense is playing lights out but great defenses are never methodical, they are attacking. The Ravens were able to win a SB with this design but their defense carried the team.
You can't have a conservative defense and offense and expect to win because you have to have a perfect game from both sides to win.

We play the Giants next. Unfortunately they are a better team even with their injuries. We need to give our players a punchers chance of winning and that means being aggressive early and scrapping our 2 yards and a cloud of dust offense.

Also, we need to have a dynamic game plan. We do the same god damn thing from start to finish even if it doesn't work. Why didn't we stack the line and force Favre to pass? We did not exploit one matchup all day. Rice is back after missing pretty much the whole season and is not in football shape, yet we treated him like Desean Jackson. Harvin is a threat but he has also missed considerable time. We needed to make them try to beat us.

I just don't understand how we can let them run on us with Toby Gerhart.
I hope Haslett is fired at the end of the year because there is too much talent on the defense to be one of the historically worse football teams in history.

We have given up more yards per game than any defense in the last 10 years. Something has got to change at the end of the year.

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[quote=nyredskinsfan;763425]yep, lost a 6 pack to my Bn Cmdr while in Panama. Skins have been letting me down for quite a while. Today is just another example.[/quote]

I've stopped betting on this team years ago.

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Laundry really would have helped with run support today. I guess when you are picking up 5 yards a run, those bootlegs just start to clear people out.

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[quote=jamf;763428]No one was expecting miracles from the coaching staff but I am disappointed we are so methodical on offense and defense. It's disgusting...
You can have a deliberate offense when your defense is playing lights out but great defenses are never methodical, they are attacking. The Ravens were able to win a SB with this design but their defense carried the team.
You can't have a conservative defense and offense and expect to win because you have to have a perfect game from both sides to win.

We play the Giants next. Unfortunately they are a better team even with their injuries. We need to give our players a punchers chance of winning and that means being aggressive early and scrapping our 2 yards and a cloud of dust offense.

Also, we need to have a dynamic game plan. We do the same god damn thing from start to finish even if it doesn't work. Why didn't we stack the line and force Favre to pass? We did not exploit one matchup all day. Rice is back after missing pretty much the whole season and is not in football shape, yet we treated him like Desean Jackson. Harvin is a threat but he has also missed considerable time. We needed to make them try to beat us.

I just don't understand how we can let them run on us with Toby Gerhart.
I hope Haslett is fired at the end of the year because there is too much talent on the defense to be one of the historically worse football teams in history.

We have given up more yards per game than any defense in the last 10 years. Something has got to change at the end of the year.[/quote]

I agree with everything you are saying...you read my mind. Another thing about this coaching staff that I don't understand is why they changed the defense the way they did this year. Why didn't they keep the same system, meaning the 4-3, but played a more aggressive scheme. There wasn't anything wrong with the defense for the past two years to three years. The only problem, no turnovers, but that can be coached. I feel like we are trying to put square pegs into round holes by playing this defense...

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I thought the first drive was amazing...so that's the good.

Now for the bad:

Trent Williams had another "rookie game"
Why do we keep starting Hicks and then pulling him for performance, or lack thereof? Just don't start him
Davis and even Williams really showed their inexperience today, missing some opportunities to cut back and follow blocks
Riley's penalty was awful and unnecessary, as was his decision to storm out without talking to reporters
How you let Favre scramble for 10 yards at the end like that...I have no words
Terrible drops by Moss, guy has been clutch time and again for us though

Playoff hopes aren't over but it's much much more difficult now. You can't worry about what all the other teams are doing if you can't take care of your own games. But we're getting more playing time out of our youngsters now, and that should pay off. Banks has been everything saden promised he would be, and more. And I do think Riley will be quite good, even KW I see contributing (though not starting). But as they get playing time they'll be making mistakes along the way

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[quote=mmil12;763479]I agree with everything you are saying...you read my mind. Another thing about this coaching staff that I don't understand is why they changed the defense the way they did this year. Why didn't they keep the same system, meaning the 4-3, but played a more aggressive scheme. There wasn't anything wrong with the defense for the past two years to three years. The only problem, no turnovers, but that can be coached. I feel like we are trying to put square pegs into round holes by playing this defense...[/quote]

Really .. this conversation is still happening right now .. come on dude ... we are a 3-4 hybrid .. deal with it .. HTTR getting the young guys PT ... still in the hunt ... NFC East Champs 2011

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[quote=DCtoAZ;763483]Really .. this conversation is still happening right now .. come on dude ... we are a 3-4 hybrid .. deal with it .. HTTR getting the young guys PT ... still in the hunt ... NFC East Champs 2011[/quote]

Love the optimism and hope you're right.

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one more awesome stat "Favre hadn't gained more than 4 yards on a run since 2008."

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Can someone verify this information please?

Please tell me that Montomery didn't start on the opening possession when we had our [B]LONGEST[/B] drive of the season for a TD.

Only then to see Rabach come in to the game after that,to see Mcnabb under pressure the rest of the game as we lose?

Please tell me that's not true?
Please tell me,the coaching staff did not make this decision.
Please tell me this information is wrong?

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Casey Rabach would get away with murder -- that kid has the full confidence of the Redskins staff for some reason

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[quote=aceinthehouse;763568]Can someone verify this information please?

Please tell me that Montomery didn't start on the opening possession when we had our [B]LONGEST[/B] drive of the season for a TD.

Only then to see Rabach come in to the game after that,to see Mcnabb under pressure the rest of the game as we lose?

Please tell me that's not true?
Please tell me,the coaching staff did not make this decision.
Please tell me this information is wrong?[/quote]

It's not true. Rabach started, and I'm pretty sure he played the whole game. Hicks started at RG, but was ultimately pulled for Montgomery

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[quote=SmootSmack;763481]


Riley's penalty was awful and unnecessary, as was his decision to storm out without talking to reporters

And I do think Riley will be quite good. [/quote]

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/28/AR2010112804095.html]Mike Wise - Perry Riley's illegal block is not the Washington Redskins' problem[/url]

I totally blame Riley twice! And I'm not sure he will be quite good! Nothing changes a game like a game changer, and thats what Riley did!

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I just can't believe we lost to a bad team with a super old QB and without their best player in the game. To make it worse, there were a multitude of idiots in the stadium cheering and celebrating an injured player(AP). This man was slowly getting up and by the sound of things, you would've thought WE scored. Way to show class...

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Anyone think Favre doesn't even think about running it if Landry is in?

He was missed yesterday.

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Good news is that AP only played about 1 qtr so we didn't get spanked even worst even though we made the young backup look decent too

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The most exciting part of the game after the first series was the fight that broke out during the last Vikings drive. Some serious hey-makers were being thrown.

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[quote=Longtimefan;763664]The most exciting part of the game after the first series was the fight that broke out during the last Vikings drive. Some serious hey-makers were being thrown.[/quote]

[YT]s_BNQ6OhiCY[/YT]

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Keeping it classy...

Yet another reason to stay home

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[quote=Mattyk;763668]Keeping it classy...

Yet another reason to stay home[/quote]

It's not as much fun going to the games as it used to be. The one thing that keeps me going is, I sit with the same group of guys I've been sitting with for years. We try to continue enjoying the experience, but it get's a little rough sometimes.

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[quote=LavaRnChad;763629]I just can't believe we lost to a bad team with a super old QB and without their best player in the game. To make it worse, there were a multitude of idiots in the stadium cheering and celebrating an injured player(AP). This man was slowly getting up and by the sound of things, you would've thought WE scored. Way to show class...[/quote]The Vikings may have a poor record, but they have FAR more talent than the Skins. Both of their lines are superior to ours, so getting beaten in the trenches was not a big surprise. AP was on his way to a monster game before getting hurt.

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[quote=SmootSmack;763665][YT]s_BNQ6OhiCY[/YT][/quote]



Why does it say Vike fan vs. skins fan? I just see skins fans fighting.


Another reason to stay home, plus the parking, the quality of team on the field, the price of a beer, etc...


This will be my first year not going to any games and I am not sad in the least.

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I think it's two different thing Redskins vs. Vikings identifies the game and Fan Fight, well that's self explanatory

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[quote=mredskins;763678]Why does it say Vike fan vs. skins fan? I just see skins fans fighting.


Another reason to stay home, plus the parking, the quality of team on the field, the price of a beer, etc...


This will be my first year not going to any games and I am not sad in the least.[/quote]I haven't been to a game since 2007, and don't miss the "game day experience" in the least. Everything about Fed Ex Field has the feel of a Snyder "Hard Sell". I hated the PA announcer telling the crowd to make some noise on opponents' 3rd downs, as if we weren't intelligent enough as fans to figure that out. Message to Snyder - Give us a better product on the field, then I might consider returning to games and feeding your cash machine.

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[url=http://walkingdeadmanblog.blogspot.com/2010/11/i-survived-fedex-and-game-recap-is.html]IT IS WHAT IT IS...........: I Survived FedEx and A Game Recap is Coming........[/url]

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[quote=SouperMeister;763686]I haven't been to a game since 2007, and don't miss the "game day experience" in the least. Everything about Fed Ex Field has the feel of a Snyder "Hard Sell". I hated the PA announcer telling the crowd to make some noise on opponents' 3rd downs, as if we weren't intelligent enough as fans to figure that out. Message to Snyder - Give us a better product on the field, then I might consider returning to games and feeding your cash machine.[/quote]

More and more people are getting to the point where they share in your sentiments and have begun to act accordingly.

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[quote=Chevy13;763659]Good news is that AP only played about 1 qtr so we didn't get spanked even worst even though we made the young backup look decent too[/quote]

Yeah I had a feeling we were headed into a game simular to the MNF game a couple of weeks ago, before AP left.. I'm sitting here listening to Kevin Sheehan and he said "Let's face it, every win the Skins had this year was due to the other team making mistakes. The other teams gave the Skins their wins with mistakes or key injuries, we haven't gone out and taken a single game". I have to agree with Mr. Sheehan.

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well i only watched the fight video up until the .50 second mark. The dude in the portis jersey picked an easy target, the guy in the orakpo jersey was clearly drunk drunk and didnt have coordination to walk let alone fight then he punches orakpos buddy who was small and not really instigating much.

looks like the dude in the portis jersey was looking for an easy person to touch up alil bit. pretty weak but it seems the dude in the orakpo jersey was acting like a fool before that so maybe the dude in the orakpo jersey unnecessarily punched someone else or pushed a girl beforehand.

honestly, fed ex sucks big time. the crowd sucks, the traffic sucks and inevitably you just feel like punching someone after a loss.

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First I was excited about McNabb, but doesn't it seems like he doesn't see alot of open targets, we should have keep Willie Parker, released Portis and Johnson, we should of traded for Vincent Jackson, we should of never left the 4-3 defense, now all I see is a head coach that is unsure and a QB, that is not happy, no rb, no good WR, and you guys really expected a good season, even with all the changes, we are still a bad team.

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[quote=Nomad;763735][B]First I was excited about McNabb, but doesn't it seems like he doesn't see alot of open targets[/B], we should have keep Willie Parker, released Portis and Johnson, we should of traded for Vincent Jackson, we should of never left the 4-3 defense, now all I see is a head coach that is unsure and a QB, that is not happy, no rb, no good WR, and you guys really expected a good season, even with all the changes, we are still a bad team.[/quote]

You could bring P. Manning here and he would suck. I truly believe that.