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Scalper 01-29-2021 06:43 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=SkinzWin;1275832]Thoughts on teams for Watson:

He’s not going to the Jets. 1. AFC team. 2. Unless Saleh is blowing a smoke stack out his ass, he’s been quoted numerous times praising and touting Darnold (something he isn’t obligated to do, he could be non-committal).

He’s not going to the Jags. They are a lock to build around Lawrence.

He’s not going to New Orleans. They are in cap hell. Current sitting $100m over the cap.

He’s not going to the Patriots. Cam is no bargaining chip and I don’t see Bellicheck mortgaging the farm when he recently has been quoted saying their poor performance this year is a direct result of mortgaging past years to win Super Bowls.

Chicago is off the table. Even as an NFC team, Mitch Trubiski is no trade bait, Robinson won’t be there and I don’t see Watson waiving his clause to go there.

Pittsburgh is loyal and will reach a renegotiated extension with Roethlisburger. No dice.

Denver could be an interested party, but again I don’t see Watson wanting to sign up to join the Bronco’s anemic offense.

No one is talking about this, but Detroit could try and trade Stafford for Watson, but ultimately I think Watson would poopoo a trade to Motown.

Raiders are a dark horse candidate because they could offer Carr and Gruden is crazy and might do anything.

Atlanta, a deeper dark horse, could come out of no where and trade Matty Ice and boatloads of picks. But Demitrov was more of a gambler with trading away draft capital (ie trading up for Julio Jones) and it remains to be seen what Fontenot will want to do.

Is Miami an option? AFC team. Media and fans are speculating but I have seen ZERO actual rumblings/insider tips stating that Miami is seriously discussing trading Tua for Watson.

Colts are a contender, but an AFC team. And I really don’t see Watson waiving his no trade clause to go there, they don’t have a ton of star power.

The Rams are a possibility, with Goff perhaps being on the block, good skill players and a dominant defense.

Panthers could be a contender. NFC team. They could offer Bridgewater, but other than McCaffrey, I don’t see any strong reason for Watson to want to go there.

49ers are a strong contender. NFC team. They could offer Garoppolo, have good skill players on offense and Shan-wow runs a QB friendly offense.

With all this said, I think there are a lot of teams that may be interested, but not a lot of teams Watson I want to go to.

With a limited list of teams that A) Watson would be willing to be traded to OR B) are willing to give up Houston’s most likely gong to be asking, that leaves:

the Washington Football team as the top prospect. Watson is pissed off with the good old boy mentality in Houston. WFT has the most diverse staff in the league. Check. Young core of talented up and coming players in both sides of the ball. Great offensive skills position players. Check. Dominant defense. Check. Tom’s of cap space. Check.

Deshaun Watson. Come on down to our nation’s capitol. The football’s fine.[/quote]

Asking to be traded and being traded are two different things. We'll see what Watson decides when he gets the letter asking for $20M+ signing bonus back if he doesn't report, plus $50K a day in fines. Houston could very well call his bluff. All because he doesn't get to pick the coach. Boo hoo hoo Papa Smurf. It is a great media story, but 99% certain he isn't going anywhere. For many owners, it is just the principle of a hole signing a new contract, not letting the ink dry half a year, and then pulling this. Horrible precedent to bow to. I would call his bluff. Go bag groceries and give me my signing bonus back. The owner will be a billionaire forever. Every year Watson goes without earning is a year he can't get back.

One year of Ron doesn't change perception of Skins. There are much more stable teams wanting a QB. Skins will be called for one reason: Houston hopes the madness of old is still here and we'll be dumb enough to completely mortgage the future. Even a team not inclined to trade may do so for a preposterous ransom. Watson is overrated especially if you make him stay in the pocket and be a real QB.

Players are still gun shy about Skins because everyone rightfully expects THE DAN to meddle. Saying we are top locale for him is absurd, and I don't want him. He's a me first a-hole.

Scalper 01-29-2021 06:44 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=mooby;1275831]You guys really think giving up #19 for a qb who needs serious development in the passing game jives with Riverboat Ron's "window is open to win now" gameplan?

That idea sounds bad on many levels. If anything Tua is worth less than a first rounder now because teams know how much work he needs. You don't think that whole "insert Fitzpatrick to create Fitzmagic" at the end of the games isn't a strike against Tua?[/quote]

Dolphins aren't trading him for that so why waste time talking about it?
You don't give up on a QB until year 3 (unless THE DAN does the drafting), and Tua had the injury which a FO might argue slowed development.
These homers.
Man.

Scalper 01-29-2021 07:02 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1275818]Stafford will give you 5 years of as sure a thing as you can get in the NFL. You could trade up to 8 to try and guess at a qb, but you lose all hope if, as our history has shown, he doesn't pan out.
Obviously the trade and extended contract have to be in reason but dismissing the idea of bringing in a proven vet seems ridiculoulsy obstinate.

As for Tua, IF Watson wants to go to Miami and IF Miami wants Watson that opens the door for negotiations on Tua.

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You don't know that. He's played through brutal injuries for years. And at 38 every QB is less effective than in their prime. Even if he lasts that long, I'd rather have a young QB who is 26 or 27 at that time. He has four kids. Maybe he gets his knee blown out on a blown protection because we don't have that LT we could have drafted with the picks we spent on him, and starts thinking about long term health. Anything can happen in NFL. The fact that a few QBs playing into 40s doesn't mean most are. We get 3 more years out of him, still at a high level, we did well. And that isn't worth a 1st round plus more.

We haven't had a true pro scout pick a QB in over a decade. THE DAN dictated McNabb, RGIII, Haskins. Imagine if all those picks had been used on players that produced. You don't have to trade up to 8. Why is everyone a bunch of pussies about drafting a QB? When you don't trade 5 picks for a trade-up for a QB, all your eggs aren't in one basket. I guarantee you Smith has one QB not in top-4 in this draft that he thinks could be a franchise QB that would probably be available at #19, and probably in 2nd round. Draft a franchise LT first round, a QB 2nd round, a CB and WR 3rd round. Then another QB you like 4th or 5th round. Bring them in, let them compete. A good GM CAN find a franchise QB outside the top 15.

I'm not opposed to proven vet, but NOT by trading away the future. What is truly obstinate is the insistence we mortgage our future for retreads.

Tua and Watson: dream on. Miami isn't giving up on him year 2. Houston isn't trading Watson for anything less than 2 1sts plus more, he isn't worth that, and the owner is probably going to dig in and say, screw having a guy I just paid $27M and agreed to pay $156M over 4 years, $39M a year, with $80M guaranteed at signing, telling me what to do. The dead cap hit is $50M to $60M if you cut him, and still a ton if you trade him. Billionaires aren't fans. Watson is trying to screw Houston BIG TIME, and even a billionaire isn't going to just shrug off a boning that huge. The GM is doing the smart thing, keeping quiet, letting the media and homers do what they do, and then see if some team will give up an absurd ransom. If not, Watson gets told to show up or get sued.

SkinzWin 01-29-2021 07:11 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
@danorlovsky7

“I got a feeling we bout to get some fireworks today....”

As a former Lion, I read into this as him having an inside line on a Stafford scoop. Stay tuned friends.

Giantone 01-29-2021 07:33 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=SkinzWin;1275832]Thoughts on teams for Watson:

He’s not going to the Jets. 1. AFC team. 2. Unless Saleh is blowing a smoke stack out his ass, he’s been quoted numerous times praising and touting Darnold (something he isn’t obligated to do, he could be non-committal).

He’s not going to the Jags. They are a lock to build around Lawrence.

He’s not going to New Orleans. They are in cap hell. Current sitting $100m over the cap.

He’s not going to the Patriots. Cam is no bargaining chip and I don’t see Bellicheck mortgaging the farm when he recently has been quoted saying their poor performance this year is a direct result of mortgaging past years to win Super Bowls.

Chicago is off the table. Even as an NFC team, Mitch Trubiski is no trade bait, Robinson won’t be there and I don’t see Watson waiving his clause to go there.

Pittsburgh is loyal and will reach a renegotiated extension with Roethlisburger. No dice.

Denver could be an interested party, but again I don’t see Watson wanting to sign up to join the Bronco’s anemic offense.

No one is talking about this, but Detroit could try and trade Stafford for Watson, but ultimately I think Watson would poopoo a trade to Motown.

Raiders are a dark horse candidate because they could offer Carr and Gruden is crazy and might do anything.

Atlanta, a deeper dark horse, could come out of no where and trade Matty Ice and boatloads of picks. But Demitrov was more of a gambler with trading away draft capital (ie trading up for Julio Jones) and it remains to be seen what Fontenot will want to do.

Is Miami an option? AFC team. Media and fans are speculating but I have seen ZERO actual rumblings/insider tips stating that Miami is seriously discussing trading Tua for Watson.

Colts are a contender, but an AFC team. And I really don’t see Watson waiving his no trade clause to go there, they don’t have a ton of star power.

The Rams are a possibility, with Goff perhaps being on the block, good skill players and a dominant defense.

Panthers could be a contender. NFC team. They could offer Bridgewater, but other than McCaffrey, I don’t see any strong reason for Watson to want to go there.

49ers are a strong contender. NFC team. They could offer Garoppolo, have good skill players on offense and Shan-wow runs a QB friendly offense.

With all this said, I think there are a lot of teams that may be interested, but not a lot of teams Watson I want to go to.

With a limited list of teams that A) Watson would be willing to be traded to OR B) are willing to give up Houston’s most likely gong to be asking, that leaves:

the Washington Football team as the top prospect. Watson is pissed off with the good old boy mentality in Houston. WFT has the most diverse staff in the league. Check. Young core of talented up and coming players in both sides of the ball. Great offensive skills position players. Check. Dominant defense. Check. Tom’s of cap space. Check.

Deshaun Watson. Come on down to our nation’s capitol. The football’s fine.[/quote]
If you really want Watson, you're going to have give up some of that young talent and no I don't mean CY but maybe a combination of players and picks.

2021#1 (19)
Sweat, Payne or Allen...not all three but a combination of any two.
2022#1

Yes I think it will be a combination of three to four # 1's for Watson or a player of equal caliber .For who ever the team is.



Oh,.........and never leave out the Cowboys.

calia 01-29-2021 07:58 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[QUOTE=Giantone;1275845]If you really want Warson, you're going to have give up some of that young talent and no I don't mean CY but maybe a combination of players and picks.

2021#1 (11)
Sweat, Payne or Allen...not all three but a combination of any two.
2022#1

Yes I think it will be a combination of three to four # 1's for Watson or a player of equal caliber .For who ever the team is.



Oh,.........and never leave out the Cowboys.[/QUOTE]


I’d never do this. Someone will overpay to get Watson and I hope it isn’t us. I’d rather build through the draft and some smart FA signings - and they need not be splashy (eg, Logan Thomas, McKissic, Darby) to be effective. I wouldn’t be averse to Stafford, but I wouldn’t overpay there either. Pick 19 - yeah, probably but not much more than that.


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skinsfan69 01-29-2021 08:20 AM

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Watson probably isn't going anywhere. Too difficult to move a player like that. Too many variables.

IMO Watson is acting like a baby. You just got paid. Do your damn job. Yeah the owner said one thing and did another. Deal w/ it. You don't own the team.

skinsfan69 01-29-2021 08:22 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=Giantone;1275845]If you really want Warson, you're going to have give up some of that young talent and no I don't mean CY but maybe a combination of players and picks.

2021#1 (11)
Sweat, Payne or Allen...not all three but a combination of any two.
2022#1

Yes I think it will be a combination of three to four # 1's for Watson or a player of equal caliber .For who ever the team is.



Oh,.........and never leave out the Cowboys.[/quote]

No one is stupid enough to do this. Not even Dan Snyder.

GridIron26 01-29-2021 08:26 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1275847]Watson probably isn't going anywhere. Too difficult to move a player like that. Too many variables.

IMO Watson is acting like a baby. You just got paid. Do your damn job. Yeah the owner said one thing and did another. Deal w/ it. You don't own the team.[/quote]

That might be what pushed Watson to request for the trade, but I think it's more than that. The FO and team are mess - they are not doing good job of building the team.. Even Andre Johnson, a long time Texans and pretty good WR said he regretted for not trying to go to a different team because the FO do not know what they are doing.

skinsfan69 01-29-2021 08:36 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
Why would Miami trade for Watson when they just drafted Tua?

Watson can request a trade, doesn't mean it is going to happen.

He most likely plays for the Texans or sits at home and gives up millions.

skinsfan69 01-29-2021 08:46 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=GridIron26;1275850]That might be what pushed Watson to request for the trade, but I think it's more than that. The FO and team are mess - they are not doing good job of building the team.. Even Andre Johnson, a long time Texans and pretty good WR said he regretted for not trying to go to a different team because the FO do not know what they are doing.[/quote]


Yeah all that is true but I didn't hear Watson requesting a trade when they were in the playoffs last year. If he saw warning signs then don't sign the contract. Watson could have not signed anything long term and did what Kirk did, force your way to free agency. He didn't do that. He took the long term money then turns around and wants out cause his feelings got hurt.

SkinzWin 01-29-2021 09:28 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1275852]Yeah all that is true but I didn't hear Watson requesting a trade when they were in the playoffs last year. If he saw warning signs then don't sign the contract. Watson could have not signed anything long term and did what Kirk did, force your way to free agency. He didn't do that. He took the long term money then turns around and wants out cause his feelings got hurt.[/quote]

I’m not a Watson apologist, but from what I’ve read the Texans leadership is a shit show and it’s a little more than Watson just having his feelings hurt.

I think Watson wanted to be with the team when he resigned, but with the no trade clause, it’s very clear to me that Watson and his agent may have been wise to what was coming with O’Brien trading all their best players for moldy cheese sandwiches.

Like I said, if he didn’t want to be there, he wouldn’t have signed, but he did, and even put a no trade clause in so he couldn’t be shipped off to the wastelands of a perennial loser. That shows he wanted to be a Texan. But things have continued to spiral downward quickly for this franchise. After events with O’Brien continuing to screw up, getting fired, Easterby jacking things up, McNair continuing to be a terrible owner, Watson being told by the team he would be involved, then not, his frustration is justifiable.

Texans won’t want to trade him to AFC. Out of the NFC teams, the most desirable teams for Watson to green light are San Francisco, LA Rams, Carolina, and Washington.

MTK 01-29-2021 09:35 AM

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So with Trent and Kirk's situations plenty of fans had no problem siding with the team, yet with Watson we're fine with him strong arming his way out after just signing a new deal? Interesting.

mredskins 01-29-2021 09:39 AM

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[quote=MTK;1275854]So with Trent and Kirk's situations plenty of fans had no problem siding with the team, yet with Watson we're fine with him strong arming his way out after just signing a new deal? Interesting.[/quote]

I really don't know much about Watson.

I am huge Celtics fan probaly love them more the the Skins. If Watson is anything like Krye Irving with the demands, NO THANKS!

BaltimoreSkins 01-29-2021 09:39 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1275774]This is an honest curiosity question. I don't even know if it is possible, but what about trading 19 for Tua which miami can add to their trade for Watson.

Would people take Tua for 19 or 19 and a 4th?

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I would do the gamble on that. Ideally I like Stafford but I think the price might be a bit high for us

CRedskinsRule 01-29-2021 09:40 AM

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[quote=MTK;1275854]So with Trent and Kirk's situations plenty of fans had no problem siding with the team, yet with Watson we're fine with him strong arming his way out after just signing a new deal? Interesting.[/quote]

My stance is that KC and TW set the stage for more players to do it. I think Watson's situation closely resembles TW's and if Houston plays hardball like we did, then they have the right. However, players now know they can win the fight by sitting out - and the ones doing this are certainly well enough off that they can afford to.

I still think it's BS, but it's going to happen more often now, and teams with bad management are going to be struck by it more frequently. If karma chooses to let us benefit by it, I am not going to be sad.

CRedskinsRule 01-29-2021 09:48 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=Scalper;1275843]You don't know that. He's played through brutal injuries for years. And at 38 every QB is less effective than in their prime. Even if he lasts that long, I'd rather have a young QB who is 26 or 27 at that time. He has four kids. Maybe he gets his knee blown out on a blown protection because we don't have that LT we could have drafted with the picks we spent on him, and starts thinking about long term health. Anything can happen in NFL. The fact that a few QBs playing into 40s doesn't mean most are. We get 3 more years out of him, still at a high level, we did well. And that isn't worth a 1st round plus more.

We haven't had a true pro scout pick a QB in over a decade. THE DAN dictated McNabb, RGIII, Haskins. Imagine if all those picks had been used on players that produced. You don't have to trade up to 8. Why is everyone a bunch of pussies about drafting a QB? When you don't trade 5 picks for a trade-up for a QB, all your eggs aren't in one basket. I guarantee you Smith has one QB not in top-4 in this draft that he thinks could be a franchise QB that would probably be available at #19, and probably in 2nd round. Draft a franchise LT first round, a QB 2nd round, a CB and WR 3rd round. Then another QB you like 4th or 5th round. Bring them in, let them compete. A good GM CAN find a franchise QB outside the top 15.

I'm not opposed to proven vet, but NOT by trading away the future. What is truly obstinate is the insistence we mortgage our future for retreads.

Tua and Watson: dream on. Miami isn't giving up on him year 2. Houston isn't trading Watson for anything less than 2 1sts plus more, he isn't worth that, and the owner is probably going to dig in and say, screw having a guy I just paid $27M and agreed to pay $156M over 4 years, $39M a year, with $80M guaranteed at signing, telling me what to do. The dead cap hit is $50M to $60M if you cut him, and still a ton if you trade him. Billionaires aren't fans. Watson is trying to screw Houston BIG TIME, and even a billionaire isn't going to just shrug off a boning that huge. The GM is doing the smart thing, keeping quiet, letting the media and homers do what they do, and then see if some team will give up an absurd ransom. If not, Watson gets told to show up or get sued.[/quote]

Can I offer friendly advice? (i will anyways)

You don't need to write books or essays for every response (may be a bit hypocritical coming from me)
Capitalizing the DAN isn't really necessary, we all know who DS is. And it makes your posts seem a bit stalker crazy.

On the football side, whoever we bring in at QB has risks of injury. Bringing in a draft pick QB, regardless of scouting staff, is always hit or miss. Look at the teams this year alone that are QB needy. If we have the opportunity to spend 1 first, and get a high probability of offensive success for several years, than we should do that. Then bring in mid round pick qbs every other year looking for the shining star.

This is a QB driven league. the second factor is defense. If you have those two in top bracket category, you will be a continual presence in the playoffs.

MTK 01-29-2021 09:51 AM

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I think at the end of the day I'd rather have Stafford and not have to give up all the draft capital it's going to take to get Watson.

skinsfaninok 01-29-2021 09:53 AM

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[quote=MTK;1275859]I think at the end of the day I'd rather have Stafford and not have to give up all the draft capital it's going to take to get Watson.[/quote]

Same here

Ruhskins 01-29-2021 10:11 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1275857]My stance is that KC and TW set the stage for more players to do it. I think Watson's situation closely resembles TW's and if Houston plays hardball like we did, then they have the right. However, players now know they can win the fight by sitting out - and the ones doing this are certainly well enough off that they can afford to.

I still think it's BS, but it's going to happen more often now, and teams with bad management are going to be struck by it more frequently. If karma chooses to let us benefit by it, I am not going to be sad.[/quote]

I think Watson's situation is completely different from TW and KC. Watson is an elite player, with proven success, and in his prime. Also, both Cousins and Trent were part of a team that was constantly shit show, whereas Bill O'Brien ran the Texans into the ground within one year.

Given all the eff ups that the Texans as an organization has done and the terrible situation they are in (no draft picks/cap hell/etc., etc.), I don't blame Watson for wanting to get the hell out of there.

SkinzWin 01-29-2021 10:26 AM

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@VincentFrankNFL

“49ers and Detroit have been talking trade through the night. Holmes wants it done quick, any team. 49ers offered two 2nd round picks and two 3rd round picks. From what I know.”

Chico23231 01-29-2021 10:26 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1275863]I think Watson's situation is completely different from TW and KC. Watson is an elite player, with proven success, and in his prime. Also, both Cousins and Trent were part of a team that was constantly shit show, whereas Bill O'Brien ran the Texans into the ground within one year.

Given all the eff ups that the Texans as an organization has done and the terrible situation they are in (no draft picks/cap hell/etc., etc.), I don't blame Watson for wanting to get the hell out of there.[/quote]

This...way different situations. The huge misplay by the Texans is telling him he would have say in coach/GM and then not. Bill O’Brien broke this team along with ownership. I get why Watson wants out.

Chico23231 01-29-2021 10:29 AM

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[quote=SkinzWin;1275864]@VincentFrankNFL

“49ers and Detroit have been talking trade through the night. Holmes wants it done quick, any team. 49ers offered two 2nd round picks and two 3rd round picks. From what I know.”[/quote]

As expected, San Fran does want to give up that first round pick. I’d offer our first and next year 2nd or DL

BaltimoreSkins 01-29-2021 10:31 AM

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I'd even say KC and TW are two very different situations. I really can't blame KC for what happened. While TW a contract should be a contract.

Number44 01-29-2021 10:32 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1275866]As expected, San Fran [B]does want[/B] to give up that first round pick. I’d offer our first and next year 2nd or DL[/quote]

does or doesn't?

CRedskinsRule 01-29-2021 10:34 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1275863]I think Watson's situation is completely different from TW and KC. Watson is an elite player, with proven success, and in his prime. Also, both Cousins and Trent were part of a team that was constantly shit show, whereas Bill O'Brien ran the Texans into the ground within one year.

Given all the eff ups that the Texans as an organization has done and the terrible situation they are in (no draft picks/cap hell/etc., etc.), I don't blame Watson for wanting to get the hell out of there.[/quote]
Completely different is probably harsh. TW was an elite player when he held out with time left on his contract. He was upset at the organization. The organization tried to bully him back because they had the money and contract on their side. He sat out, the team capitulated.

If anything, TW had more reasons to get out of Washington since, as you said our team was a constant shitshow, the Texans may be able to get back to where they were quickly if the GM/HC duo works out. Washington only changed culture because of TW/KC/decades of losing.

SkinzWin 01-29-2021 10:35 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=Chico23231;1275866]As expected, San Fran does want to give up that first round pick. I’d offer our first and next year 2nd or DL[/quote]

If all it was going to take to get Stafford is #19 and next year’s 2nd, this should have already happened.

Chico23231 01-29-2021 10:35 AM

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[quote=Number44;1275868]does or doesn't?[/quote]

Doesn’t want

CRedskinsRule 01-29-2021 10:43 AM

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[quote=SkinzWin;1275864]@VincentFrankNFL

“49ers and Detroit have been talking trade through the night. Holmes wants it done quick, any team. 49ers offered two 2nd round picks and two 3rd round picks. From what I know.”[/quote]

If that's the real offer than our FO should top it. I wonder if it's a bs leak to try and up the market price though.

SkinzWin 01-29-2021 10:44 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1275872]If that's the real offer than our FO should top it. I wonder if it's a bs leak to try and up the market price though.[/quote]

Possible.

CRedskinsRule 01-29-2021 11:04 AM

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I am curious about the new GM of Detroit. His bio puts him with the Rams for the past 17 years, but I can't really tell if he has any connections with the FO of SF/Indy/WFT. Also seems like he is an unknown commodity in terms of making deals. Reading his bio, I kind of imagine he got similar love as Kyle Smith gets here.

Monkeydad 01-29-2021 11:10 AM

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[quote=SkinzWin;1275844]@danorlovsky7

“I got a feeling we bout to get some fireworks today....”

As a former Lion, I read into this as him having an inside line on a Stafford scoop. Stay tuned friends.[/quote]

Lions trading Stafford AND trading for Watson!

Speaking of them, MARK BRUNELL was just hired by the Lions as QB coach. Congrats, Mark!

skinsfaninok 01-29-2021 11:11 AM

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Was just listening to NFL Radio on XM , they seem to believe Stafford will land in Indy and Watson to the Jets. They mentioned Cam for us FUCK NO!!

sdskinsfan2001 01-29-2021 11:19 AM

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[quote=mredskins;1275855]I really don't know much about Watson.

[B]I am huge Celtics fan probaly love them more the the Skins. [/B]If Watson is anything like Krye Irving with the demands, NO THANKS![/quote]

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sdskinsfan2001 01-29-2021 11:21 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
Trent Williams is a FA and we need a LT. Come back home!!

CRedskinsRule 01-29-2021 11:24 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1275876]Was just listening to NFL Radio on XM , they seem to believe Stafford will land in Indy and Watson to the Jets. They mentioned Cam for us FUCK NO!![/QUOTE]It does seem like the in the know people are not really mentioning WFT for either of them except in passing. I would not be happy with Cam. That would be the ultimate Washington Panthers move if our opening day qb room was Cam, Kyle and TH.

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GridIron26 01-29-2021 11:34 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1275876]Was just listening to NFL Radio on XM , they seem to believe Stafford will land in Indy and Watson to the Jets. They mentioned Cam for us FUCK NO!![/quote]

I would be shocked and really disappointed if we bring in Cam as a starter.. It's pretty obvious Cam is done.

Ruhskins 01-29-2021 11:42 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1275879]It does seem like the in the know people are not really mentioning WFT for either of them except in passing. I would not be happy with Cam. That would be the ultimate Washington Panthers move if our opening day qb room was Cam, Kyle and TH.

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I feel the whole Cam to Washington is a bit of lazy journalism. If Ron really wanted Cam, he would have gotten him last offseason.

The same goes for Watson to the Jets. Just because the Jets have ammo for a trade, doesn't mean it will happen. Watson is not going to go from one dysfunctional team that's rebuilding to another rebuilding dysfunctional team. Due to the trade clause in his contract, Watson will influence where he goes. He's not going to the Jets.

skinsfaninok 01-29-2021 11:46 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1275881]I feel the whole Cam to Washington is a bit of lazy journalism. If Ron really wanted Cam, he would have gotten him last offseason.

The same goes for Watson to the Jets. Just because the Jets have ammo for a trade, doesn't mean it will happen. Watson is not going to go from one dysfunctional team that's rebuilding to another rebuilding dysfunctional team. Due to the trade clause in his contract, Watson will influence where he goes. He's not going to the Jets.[/quote]

I agree, I'd say Miami is at the top of his list but Washington has to be on his short list as well

CRedskinsRule 01-29-2021 11:48 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1275881]I feel the whole Cam to Washington is a bit of lazy journalism. If Ron really wanted Cam, he would have gotten him last offseason.

The same goes for Watson to the Jets. Just because the Jets have ammo for a trade, doesn't mean it will happen. Watson is not going to go from one dysfunctional team that's rebuilding to another rebuilding dysfunctional team. Due to the trade clause in his contract, Watson will influence where he goes. He's not going to the Jets.[/quote]

Last offseason, Ron was committed to Haskins. It may be lazy journalism, but Ron has shown an affinity for players and staff he has worked with. There is nothing wrong with that as long as choices made are ultimately the best for this team. Ron did say he wished he had a qb competition last year, so if he really did get vibes off of Heinicke and Allen, than Cam coming in and competing for the starting job might be in his radar. I still would not like it.


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