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Yeah I don't see the Cam thing either. Instead of signing him off the street last year we traded a 5th for Allen. Why would we be interested now?

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Cam would win that job, he's better than Allen and is more polished than TH

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If Ron had ANY faith in Cam, he would have been here last season. Cam was available for next to no money, for many months.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1275872]If that's the real offer than our FO should top it. I wonder if it's a bs leak to try and up the market price though.[/quote]

Possible.

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I am not sure about those tweets, no sign of this information anywhere else and the Dan Orlovsky tweet doesn't even appear on his twitter page.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1275885]Cam would win that job, he's better than Allen and is more polished than TH[/quote]

Cam sucks and is washed up, he was terrible in NE. He can run and that’s about it, this would a typical Hurney move.

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#Texans GM Nick Caserio: “I just want to reiteraten our commitment to Deshaun Watson. … We have zero interest in trading the player. We have a great plan and vision for him. We look forward to spending more time with him."

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1275858]Can I offer friendly advice? (i will anyways)

You don't need to write books or essays for every response (may be a bit hypocritical coming from me)
Capitalizing the DAN isn't really necessary, we all know who DS is. And it makes your posts seem a bit stalker crazy.

On the football side, whoever we bring in at QB has risks of injury. Bringing in a draft pick QB, regardless of scouting staff, is always hit or miss. Look at the teams this year alone that are QB needy. If we have the opportunity to spend 1 first, and get a high probability of offensive success for several years, than we should do that. Then bring in mid round pick qbs every other year looking for the shining star.

This is a QB driven league. the second factor is defense. If you have those two in top bracket category, you will be a continual presence in the playoffs.[/quote]

This is a QB driven league. Virtually every team that has won more than one SB in salary cap era had a young QB they drafted and developed. Big difference between getting to playoffs and winning SB. We should be looking for a long-term answer, not a stopgap, and using our 1st round picks to acquire long-term resources. Finding a QB is hard but good GMs do so, everyone acts like drafting a franchise QB is as impossible as levitating, it isn't. Wasting 1st round picks on stopgaps is fool's gold and won't lead to SB or even long term success. Injuries can happen to anyone, but older guys more injury prone and more apt to retire from them, which was my point. Stafford could play out the 2 years on his contract and retire, no one knows. We should commit to finding a long-term QB in the draft. Period. Or a young FA which requires no draft picks. Trading picks for retreads is moronic, and typifies the short-term thinking that has made us suck forever.

Also keep in mind the best teams get 3-4 extra draft picks each year because they work the comp pick system. They draft tons of players continually, sign FAs judiciously because they don't even have money to lock up their own homegrown talent, and the machine just grinds on with 10 or 11 picks per year instead of 7. HUGE difference. You never get to that point if you don't commit to building primarily through the draft. If this team could ever go five years without some num-nutted trade based on the delusion that we are close to being a contender, it might attain real long-term success. But it just can't ever resist the temptation and commit to building the right way for more than 2 years at a time. The only people that last long-term here are those that kiss THE DAN'S ass, period, and such individuals are never good football people. We finally have momentum, and could keep crushing it with more young talent added, instead everyone wants to mortgage the future yet again. How many times do we have to see this approach fail to learn from it?

I will always write it THE DAN to mock the way he makes people salute him and won't let them look him in the eyes, and I don't care how it sounds. I use voice recognition, length is what it is.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1275878]Trent Williams is a FA and we need a LT. Come back home!![/quote]

I thought the same thing. Hilarious!

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Cam is a big ole no for me. He has next to nothing left.

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[quote=Scalper;1275898]I thought the same thing. Hilarious![/quote]

Since the ENTIRE staff has been changed out...who knows...could happen.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1275881]I feel the whole Cam to Washington is a bit of lazy journalism. If Ron really wanted Cam, he would have gotten him last offseason.

The same goes for Watson to the Jets. Just because the Jets have ammo for a trade, doesn't mean it will happen. Watson is not going to go from one dysfunctional team that's rebuilding to another rebuilding dysfunctional team. Due to the trade clause in his contract, Watson will influence where he goes. He's not going to the Jets.[/quote]

then why the hell would he come here?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1275885]Cam would win that job, he's better than Allen and is more polished than TH[/quote]

did you watch him play last year? Allen and Heineke were both FAR FAR FAR better than CAM. He looked completely done!! IMO he should retire!!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1275885]Cam would win that job, he's better than Allen and is more polished than TH[/quote]

Heinicke would smoke him. But I don’t want to ever find that out because Cam does not need a roster spot on this squad.

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Per SF Twitterverse, Stafford is wanting to play for the niners... guess we’ll see if that’s true soon enough

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1275927]Per SF Twitterverse, Stafford is wanting to play for the niners... guess we’ll see if that’s true soon enough[/quote]

I saw somewhere on Twitter that someone stated that Stafford bought a house in Cali last week. No idea if it’s true.

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[QUOTE=SkinzWin;1275928]I saw somewhere on Twitter that someone stated that Stafford bought a house in Cali last week. No idea if it’s true.[/QUOTE]


If so oh well. Was hoping we’d land him but there are other options

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1275929]If so oh well. Was hoping we’d land him but there are other options[/quote]

But not as good... 😥

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1275927]Per SF Twitterverse, Stafford is wanting to play for the niners... guess we’ll see if that’s true soon enough[/quote]

Don’t sleep on Stafford to the Rams instead of SF.

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Isn't Stafford originally from CA.

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[QUOTE=NYCskinfan82;1275936]Isn't Stafford originally from CA.[/QUOTE]


Texas

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1275933]Don’t sleep on Stafford to the Rams instead of SF.[/QUOTE]


JP Finlay said he head heard That’s Stafford first choice but tough to let Goff go.

It definitely seems like we are out of the Stafford race.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1275938]JP Finlay said he head heard That’s Stafford first choice but tough to let Goff go.

It definitely seems like we are out of the Stafford race.[/quote]

Maybe Carr is looking more better at this point. He’s be my 3rd option.

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If you were Stafford would you come here?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1275893]#Texans GM Nick Caserio: “I just want to reiteraten our commitment to Deshaun Watson. … We have zero interest in trading the player. We have a great plan and vision for him. We look forward to spending more time with him."[/quote]

Watson is going nowhere and I doubt we get Stafford.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1275939]Maybe Carr is looking more better at this point. He’s be my 3rd option.[/quote]

Who says Carr is available?

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1275933]Don’t sleep on Stafford to the Rams instead of SF.[/quote]

not going to happen. mcvay may be sour on goff but they paid him already. they are stuck w/ each other.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1275942]Who says Carr is available?[/quote]

Nothing definitive is out there, but I’ve heard there’s rumors about him getting traded.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1275940]If you were Stafford would you come here?[/quote]

Absolutely. Given the other 3 teams in our division, we are closer to being a sure thing for the playoffs (with a QB upgrade) than the other teams being discussed.

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My guess is they'll sign a FA QB, bring back Allen and/or Heinicke, and draft a QB.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1275947]My guess is they'll sign a FA QB, bring back Allen and/or Heinicke, and draft a QB.[/quote]

Seems to be Ron’s MO anyway, bringing in value free agents. I guess Stafford and Watson were always pipe dreams.

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“The Rams are exploring a trade partner for Jared Goff”

The Athletic..

Well maybe they are getting Stafford

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Would you trade #19 for Goff? I would

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1275951]Would you trade #19 for Goff? I would[/quote]

That’s a no from me.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1275951]Would you trade #19 for Goff? I would[/quote]

Nope.. Goff without mccay.. meh

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I doubt they are even interested in Goff. It definitely seems like the Stafford ship has sailed... Watson is a pipe dream.

Who else we got?

Carr maybe
Goff maybe

Everyone else is just Meh. I’d rather trade #19 and a 2022 first for Fields or Lance/Wilson

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1275951]Would you trade #19 for Goff? I would[/QUOTE]No. A third yes.

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Please for the love of all that is holy.... no cam.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1275951]Would you trade #19 for Goff? I would[/quote]

[B]Jared Goff signed a 4 year, $134,000,000 contract with the Los Angeles Rams, including a $25,000,000 signing bonus, $110,042,682 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $33,500,000. In 2021, Goff will earn a base salary of $25,325,000 and a roster bonus of $2,500,000, while carrying a cap hit of $34,625,000 and a dead cap value of $65,525,000.[/B]

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles-rams/jared-goff-18949/#:~:text=Jared%20Goff%20signed%20a%204%20year,%20$134,000,000%20contract,$34,625,000%20and%20a%20dead%20cap%20value%20of%20$65,525,000.

That would be a no for me.

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Goff is a definite no. He is a lower tier starter w limited mobility, is too hot and cold & has a big contract. Just no on all fronts. Guys like Goff and Jimmy G are not who we should be signing. They're not wanted by their own teams so why should we consider them?