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[quote=The Goat;531367]Fascinating that we were able to get this done on 12 million... so cutting Springs would def indicate we're gonna give some help to the o-line in FA. I would really like to get Dock and Willis but actually if we have to limit it to a single lineman i want Brown.

GTripp i'm very, very curious how you see our front seven lining up on defense. Who will play the ends? Who will be play OLBs? And... are we still a 4-3 defense for absolutely sure?[/quote]Yes, we're absolutely a 4-3 defense. The rest is just speculation at this point.

Haynesworth will start at the nose. Griffin will take the 3 shade. Carter will be the right end. I have no idea who will start at LE. I think Daniels will probably come back at vet minimum, but it's hard for me to see Jason Taylor there as a three down end. We've already made that mistake once...

Fletch in the middle, and I think Rocky will shift over to the strong side. I could see either Blades, or Taylor, or even a draft pick at weak side LB.

Then you have Hall and Rogers at the corners and Landry and Horton at the safeties, and that's pretty straightforward.

I would consider taking Maualuga with the first round pick if we get some free agent help on the OL. Right now, the defenses biggest weakness is the increasing attrition rate with Fletcher's age, and the fact that we are absolutely reliant on getting another 16 game season from him. He's a warrior, but is that a gamble we really should be taking?

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I also think Angelo Crowell is coming here, in addition to one OL signing. His price tag should be on the very cheap.

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[quote=GTripp0012;531385]I also think Angelo Crowell is coming here, in addition to one OL signing. His price tag should be on the very cheap.[/quote] Where did you hear that? I think we would be better off drafteing a OLB. I think Crowell has some injury issues as well, which causes concern.

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[quote=freddyg12;531334]I get your point, to an extent. But it seems to oversimplify a broader issue; what's the best way to build a winner? The approach of signing the best guy to the biggest contract hasn't worked. Not just here, but elsewhere. We debate these issues here because we have knowledgable people & a few capologists that take the time to provide us w/info & potential scenarios. If we didn't look at the contracts in such a manner, this site would get boring IMO.

As for the $ side of it. If you're a fan you should care, our $ as consumers allows this to go on. If good players that we drafted are cut due to these big signings, as a fan I care. I want to see the team builds its own talent & pay them ONCE they proven themselves here in DC. Every signing has an implication for the cap & the future. This one has HUGE implications!

On your last sentence, you mean "gold" cent don't you? :)[/quote]

As far as your comment about signing the best guy to the biggest contract, as I stated, somtimes the big name works out and sometimes they don't. And no one is disputing, or at least they shouldn't be, the fact the Redskins have a lot of players who they drafted and have proven themselves while here in D.C. For every good player that the Skins had to let go because of cap room, they had another two or three that we got great value for. The only sure losing strategy is when you apply the spend at all costs mindset accross the board. And since the Redskins haven't, I don't have any problem with them signing Big Al to a lot of coin. Even if it's gold coin.

For the record, I love having the capologist here on this site. It's one of the many things that make it, arguably, the best NFL fan site in the country. And quite frankly, it makes me feel (this may sound corny) that I'm among some of the most elite fans in the country. So my jab at the cap argument wasn't meant to trivialize or undermine in anyway the hard work and time some of members put into providing us with this valuable knowledge. Or the debate that ensues. It's just not my thing, that's all. But a lot things aren't. Doesn't make them any less important.

I maintain, however, if Big Al stays healthy, the Skins will finish no less than 10-6.

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I do think Haynesworth is an elusive "win per year" type player. Even when you consider that he's not going to eat up minutes at DT, I'd say he alone is good enough to turn a 10 win team into an 11 win team.

There's probably fewer than ten DL in the league who qualify for that title, I would estimate. The Giants have one of them in Tuck, too, and Jay Ratliff might make that list as well.

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I'm glad they signed him because our defense really killed us last year. Unlike our offense which was a juggernaut.

This is another disastrous move by Cerratto/Snyder. They are not about addressing needs, they are about selling a once great brand to the masses who don't have the sense to know any better. To Dan Snyder there is only money. That's his whole universe.

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I wonder what the Cowboys, Giants, and Eagles interior linemen are thinking right about now?

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80ef8ef4&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true]Redskins put NFC East on notice with signing of Haynesworth[/url]

Yes, we're absolutely a 4-3 defense. The rest is just speculation at this point.

[quote=]Haynesworth will start at the nose. Griffin will take the 3 shade. Carter will be the right end. I have no idea who will start at LE. I think Daniels will probably come back at vet minimum, but it's hard for me to see Jason Taylor there as a three down end. We've already made that mistake once...

Fletch in the middle, and I think Rocky will shift over to the strong side. I could see either Blades, or Taylor, or even a draft pick at weak side LB.

Then you have Hall and Rogers at the corners and Landry and Horton at the safeties, and that's pretty straightforward.

I would consider taking Maualuga with the first round pick if we get some free agent help on the OL. Right now, the defenses biggest weakness is the increasing attrition rate with Fletcher's age, and the fact that we are absolutely reliant on getting another 16 game season from him. He's a warrior, but is that a gamble we really should be taking?[/quote]

I agree with this analysis and I think Taylors main position in 2009 will change dramatically depending on who we draft. If we draft Maualuga, then obviously Taylor would spend more time at DE. However, if we draft an OT, i think its more likely Taylor would play mostly LB and we bring back Evans or Daniels to play DE or even consider moving Monty there. In that scenario, Daniels is the most likely option... we could have him for the vet minimum, which would be next to free considering the cap credit teams get for signing older players.

One other thing i'm not so sure about is Horton and Landry as our SS and FS, respeectively. I'm prediciting right now that Landry moves back to SS this year with Kareem Moore as our starting FS on opening day.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;531433]I wonder what the Cowboys, Giants, and Eagles interior linemen are thinking right about now?

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80ef8ef4&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true]Redskins put NFC East on notice with signing of Haynesworth[/url][/quote]

They are going to say, "their Offense still needs help".

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;531433]I wonder what the Cowboys, Giants, and Eagles interior linemen are thinking right about now?

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80ef8ef4&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true"]Redskins put NFC East on notice with signing of Haynesworth[/URL][/quote]

Well, with Stacey Andrews signing with the Eagles Shawn is probably just thinking about the chance to play with bro. However the rest of the East doesn't have such a pleasant distraction at the moment.

The guy I'd be interested to see a reaction from though is Gurode now that he has to face Haynesworth twice a year now.

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[quote=70Chip;531432]I'm glad they signed him because our defense really killed us last year. Unlike our offense which was a juggernaut.

This is another disastrous move by Cerratto/Snyder. They are not about addressing needs, they are about selling a once great brand to the masses who don't have the sense to know any better. To Dan Snyder there is only money. That's his whole universe.[/quote]

Offseason isn't over. We can still sign another free agent on offense, and there's the draft. We do need to address the OL, for sure. But we also need to get our Thomas, Kelly, and Davis out there to complement Moss, Portis, and Cooley and together with JC's growth the offense should improve.

Investing so much in Haynesworth does present a bit of a risk but it potentially takes our defense to an elite level which makes the team much better...and we don't have to look to Ryan Boschetti for depth anymore. Now starters like Golston finally go to where they belong (solid depth on the bench)

Disastrous move is quite hyperbolic

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[quote=Dirtbag359;531436]Well, with Stacey Andrews signing with the Eagles Shawn is probably just thinking about the chance to play with bro. However the rest of the East doesn't have such a pleasant distraction at the moment.

The guy I'd be interested to see a reaction from though is Gurode now that he has to face Haynesworth twice a year now.[/quote]

Haynesworth seems to genuinely regret what he did, and i would not be surprised at all if Haynesworth has "made up" with Gurode over the incident. He could have been lying to get the job, but he told Cerrato his suspension for doing that is what ""woke him up" and made him realize he needed to get his act together.

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hey its been awhile but i just wanted to put this out there, sorry didnt read all so i dont know if its been put out at all......
[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2009/02/shawn_springs_to_be_released_t.html]Springs to Be Released Today (Updated) - Redskins Insider[/url]

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Whats the big deal that he stepped on the guys face? Thats a plus in my book. That stuff happened every week back in the day and was just a part of football. Now it is too violent and not good sportsmanship. He should have received a bonus for every stitch the guy had to get.

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[quote=Ruhskins;531459]Get your Albert Haynesworth jersey, get'em while they're hot.

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Just in case Demetric Evans had any doubts about the Skins bringing him back ....

Assuming a 50% markup all the Skins need to do is sell 2.9 million of those things and Albert Haynesworth pays for himself!