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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;893568]I think it's debatable that RG3 is a better prospect than Cam was[/QUOTE]



Really? Cam was thought of as a 2nd rounder for so long but we can compare.

Passing Accuracy: RG3
Speed: RG3
Vertical Jump (Which means nothing to QBs): RG3
Arm Strength: Cam
Broad Jump (Again means nothing): Cam
Intangibles: RG3

If they were in the same draft I'm pretty sure RG3 would be drafted first.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;893573]By the end of April we're going to have 2 new QBs. I'm 98% sure of that. Doesn't necessarily mean Rex is gone. Because if we sign Manning and draft say Kirk Cousins then Cousins would not be the back-up right away...even if we was taken high in the 2nd round. Even Tannehill might be not be the back-up from the get go.[/QUOTE]



And I'm 100% hoping one of them is RG3.

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Dream for me would be to get both manning and tannehill; I'd love that. I'm wondering if manning has put any stipulations on teams regarding whether or not they can draft a first round QB. Would seem logical, he wants more weapons and doesn't want to have to look over his shoulder...

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i love scouring these boards for smoots intelligent and enlightened comments. i kinda ignore everybody else's comments. Smoot thanks for all the info.

Re: Colts Officially Release Peyton Manning (QB Thread #11)
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;893576]Really? Cam was thought of as a 2nd rounder for so long but we can compare.

Passing Accuracy: RG3
Speed: RG3
Vertical Jump (Which means nothing to QBs): RG3
Arm Strength: Cam
Broad Jump (Again means nothing): Cam
Intangibles: RG3

If they were in the same draft I'm pretty sure RG3 would be drafted first.[/quote]

Fair enough. Though I don't agree that Cam was thought of as a non-1st rounder for any longer than RG3 was

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[quote=musicmaster45;893581]i love scouring these boards for smoots intelligent and enlightened comments. i kinda ignore everybody else's comments. Smoot thanks for all the info.[/quote]

You're welcome, but you're doing yourself a disservice ignoring others' comments.

Re: Colts Officially Release Peyton Manning (QB Thread #11)
 

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;893583]Fair enough. Though I don't agree that Cam was thought of as a non-1st rounder for any longer than RG3 was[/QUOTE]



Also fair enough, I just think at the same point in their draft journey more teams liked RG3 than Cam.

Re: Colts Officially Release Peyton Manning (QB Thread #11)
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;893576]Really? Cam was thought of as a 2nd rounder for so long but we can compare.

Passing Accuracy: RG3
Speed: RG3
[B]Vertical Jump (Which means nothing to QBs): RG3[/B]
Arm Strength: Cam
Broad Jump (Again means nothing): Cam
Intangibles: RG3

If they were in the same draft I'm pretty sure RG3 would be drafted first.[/quote]

It means nothing unless you do the Tebow jump pass.

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Well, Dan McKlurken now thinks Washington is the front runner to get Peyton Manning.
He is saying it will create a super division within the NFL with a lot of attention on the Manning boys.
:cool-smil

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;893576]Really? Cam was thought of as a 2nd rounder for so long but we can compare.

Passing Accuracy: RG3
Speed: RG3
Vertical Jump (Which means nothing to QBs): RG3
Arm Strength: Cam
Broad Jump (Again means nothing): Cam
Intangibles: RG3

If they were in the same draft I'm pretty sure RG3 would be drafted first.[/quote]

Vertical could be an indication of leg strength, which translates into tackle-breakng and staying upright with defenders on you, I guess.

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[quote=SmootSmack;893546]Oh no, I was just speaking in terms of those two only. Though, from what I hear it's probably 90% it will be one of those two (doubt it's both)[/quote]

Is that another sick Rex Grossman/RG3 joke?

Re: Colts Officially Release Peyton Manning (QB Thread #11)
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;893576]Really? Cam was thought of as a 2nd rounder for so long but we can compare.

Passing Accuracy: RG3
Speed: RG3
Vertical Jump (Which means nothing to QBs): RG3
Arm Strength: Cam
Broad Jump (Again means nothing): Cam
Intangibles: RG3

If they were in the same draft I'm pretty sure RG3 would be drafted first.[/quote]

RG3 can probably broad jump farther (he is a track guy), but he screwed up at the combine and got too much vertical height. not that it matters.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;893562]Whatever team RG3 goes to will have a Cam Newton type of effect. Ryan Tannehill not so much. I live in Charlotte and the excitement for the Panthers has never been this high. RG3 is a better prospect than Cam was and thanks to Andrew Luck coming out is within our reach. We need to make this happen.[/quote]

Yeah I agree. I live in Charlotte as well and Cam is definitely the face of Charlotte Sports, as a rookie no less. His immediate impact on this area was insane. Even though they lost more than they won, he certainly has the area excited about the future and how good this team can be if they didn't lose a ton of starters on D last year.

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[quote=Lotus;893592]It means nothing unless you do the Tebow jump pass.[/quote]

Ha! That's excellent! Tebow and TJack: masters of the jump pass!

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[QUOTE=#56fanatic;893606]Yeah I agree. I live in Charlotte as well and Cam is definitely the face of Charlotte Sports, as a rookie no less. His immediate impact on this area was insane. Even though they lost more than they won, he certainly has the area excited about the future and how good this team can be if they didn't lose a ton of starters on D last year.[/QUOTE]



Their D was decimated last year, a healthy Jon Beason, James Anderson, Chris Gamble, the fact that they will probably take Dontari Poe, and a defensive draft Carolina could compete for the division next year.

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[quote=SmootSmack;893587]You're welcome, [B]but you're doing yourself a disservice ignoring others' comments.[/B][/quote]

Agreed. I consider myself to be a wealth of knowledge...

Re: Colts Officially Release Peyton Manning (QB Thread #11)
 

So we get Manning and would still take Tannehill at 6? Wow thats pretty damn stupid. Rather move back or take a QB round 2 than reach that high at 6 with many other needs.

Re: Colts Officially Release Peyton Manning (QB Thread #11)
 

[quote=Chico23231;893620]So we get Manning and would still take Tannehill at 6? Wow thats pretty damn stupid. Rather move back or take a QB round 2 than reach that high at 6 with many other needs.[/quote]

You can still get good quality players with our second and third rounders. Also, trading down depends on who is interested in trading with us and that always doesn't happen.

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To me, this makes too much sense. But I've heard the Cardinals have to make a few other moves to make it work though and it may not be so easy for them. Still, if I'm Manning I probably put the Cardinals at the top of my list

[url=http://theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/24401/Report--Peyton-Manning--put-out-feelers--to-the-Cardinals/Default.aspx]Report: Peyton Manning "put out feelers" to the Cardinals[/url]

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Manning is reported saying he doesn't want to play for the Skins. Per Chris Russell

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I think the Cards make sense, but I think he'll land in Miami.

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[quote=12thMan;893624]Manning is reported saying he doesn't want to play for the Skins. Per Chris Russell[/quote]

Well, if he doesn't want to play for us, onto the next guy. Which in this case I hope is RG3.

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[quote=12thMan;893624]Manning is reported saying he doesn't want to play for the Skins. Per Chris Russell[/quote]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/08/report-manning-doesnt-want-to-play-for-the-redskins/]Report: Manning doesn’t want to play for the Redskins | ProFootballTalk[/url]

I for one will be happy if this is true. We're too far away for one player, even a Manning, to put us over the top. I'd rather see us plan for the long term.

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[quote=12thMan;893624]Manning is reported saying he doesn't want to play for the Skins. Per Chris Russell[/quote]

Perfect!

If you are in the RG3 camp Manning to MIA or CLE (unlikely) is the best case.

Re: Colts Officially Release Peyton Manning (QB Thread #11)
 

F*ck Manning then. I don't want to play my brother, waaaaaaaaaaa! I don't want to play in the cold, waaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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Is it just me or does it feel kind of weird to have a big name free agent turn us down? We're not used to being in this position before.

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[quote=12thMan;893624]Manning is reported saying he doesn't want to play for the Skins. Per Chris Russell[/quote]
Good for him. Bad for us if you wanted him/makes us look like a 'joke' of a team

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[quote=CultBrennan59;893634]Good for him. Bad for us if you wanted him/[B]makes us look like a 'joke' of a team[/B][/quote]

Why?

Re: Colts Officially Release Peyton Manning (QB Thread #11)
 

I bet the restaurant industry in the DC area would want Manning here (he's a good tipper)...

[url=http://news.fanfeedr.com/2012/03/07/peyton-manning-may-be-unemployed-at-the-moment-but-he-is-a-hell-of-a-big-tipper-photo/]UPDATE: Peyton Manning May Be Unemployed (And So Is The Waiter Now) At The Moment, But He Is A Hell Of A Big Tipper | FanFeedr Hot Takes[/url]

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Seriously one little rumor floats and you guys get all pissey.

Nobody knows where Manning wants to go, I highly doubt he has said no WASH all ready without even hearing what we have to offer.

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[quote=mredskins;893641]Seriously one little rumor floats and you guys get all pissey.

Nobody knows where Manning wants to go, I highly doubt he has said no WASH all ready without even hearing what we have to offer.[/quote]

F*ck him anyways (until/unless he says yes).

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[quote=Ruhskins;893638]Why?[/quote]

Because we're not appealing to the players that WANT to win..i'm joking really, but not completely.

Re: Colts Officially Release Peyton Manning (QB Thread #11)
 

Works for me, I want to see us draft a true franchise QB, not work with some old retread who has health issues again.

RGIII

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;893632]F*ck Manning then. I don't want to play my brother, waaaaaaaaaaa! I don't want to play in the cold, waaaaaaaaaaaaaa![/quote]


You'll be the first one as soon as he signs to sing the praises too.

Oh well if peyton really said that then good luck in miami

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[quote=#56fanatic;893651]You'll be the first one as soon as he signs to sing the praises too.[/quote]

I know, I said that a few posts later.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/08/report-manning-doesnt-want-to-play-for-the-redskins/]Report: Manning doesn’t want to play for the Redskins | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Excellent news. Manning doesn't want to play for the Redskins. A short term solution like him wasn't what the Redskins needed @ quarterback anyway. Let's proceed on to trade up to draft RG3 now.

If u think we are really all for RG3. U may be upset on draft day.. if Manning was option 1 which seems like he may have been then we aren't giving up all that for Griffin. Get ready for tannehill at 6

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This is actually a good thing… We need our own guy (Hopefully RG3) for the next 10+ years. I’m sure the Redskins haters in the media will say it because the front office is dysfunctional, and he didn’t want to play for Dan Snyder but we all know that’s not the case. I’m sure Giantone will gloat and say I told you so, and you’re not going to get RG3 either, but f them all. The Skins will be back on top again, as long as with MS and BS are running the show. Skins fan’s, we will have our time in the sun again just wait!!!

Also, let’s hope PM goes to Miami, so Matt Flynn will go to Cleveland, and then RG3 will be selected in the 2012 NFL Draft by the Washington Redskins