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rocnrik 01-30-2021 08:41 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
No to Goff .... Watson was never going happen.. Stafford was a great idea but seems a lot of other teams had same idea, please please no Cam ! Options now ? Carr, Darnold,Fitz, Tua ??( would you trade 19th for him?) .. how about this years and next years to move up and grab top rookie Qb ?

skinsfaninok 01-30-2021 09:00 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[QUOTE=rocnrik;1275967]No to Goff .... Watson was never going happen.. Stafford was a great idea but seems a lot of other teams had same idea, please please no Cam ! Options now ? Carr, Darnold,Fitz, Tua ??( would you trade 19th for him?) .. how about this years and next years to move up and grab top rookie Qb ?[/QUOTE]


Mariota or Carr.. one of them is gone, I’d definitely bring one Carr in to start for 2/3 years

CRedskinsRule 01-30-2021 09:31 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1275969]Mariota or Carr.. one of them is gone, I’d definitely bring one Carr in to start for 2/3 years[/QUOTE]For either of them, we would see a qb competition for the starting job. I do think RR is actally ok with that if KA and TH are both healthy.

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skinsfaninok 01-30-2021 09:59 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
Carr would smoke TH and KA in a QB1 competition. Derek is a really good QB.

CRedskinsRule 01-30-2021 10:25 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1275972]Carr would smoke TH and KA in a QB1 competition. Derek is a really good QB.[/QUOTE]Maybe, I certainly don't know that but I know Carr doesn't deserve an automatic claim to the starting job.

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Burgold 01-30-2021 10:28 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1274628]I'd rather actually find someone named Travinski and give him a chance lol.[/quote]Haaaaaaaaaaaa...that's a good one, I needed a laugh.

GridIron26 01-30-2021 10:37 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
I wouldn't oppose to trading for Carr as long as we are not giving up our 1st round pick

skinsfaninok 01-30-2021 10:52 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[QUOTE=GridIron26;1275975]I wouldn't oppose to trading for Carr as long as we are not giving up our 1st round pick[/QUOTE]


That’s what it would take though. He’s been a very good QB for his career and coming off a really good season. What are we picking at 19 that is better than Carr? The only QB that could be left by then is Mac Jones.

Number44 01-30-2021 10:57 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1275979]That’s what it would take though. He’s been a very good QB for his career and coming off a really good season. What are we picking at 19 that is better than Carr? The only QB that could be left by then is Mac Jones.[/quote]

I think that a second would do it.

Giantone 01-30-2021 10:58 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1275848]No one is stupid enough to do this. Not even Dan Snyder.[/quote]

I*t depends on how bad a team wants a certain player. never say never, .....................

GridIron26 01-30-2021 11:02 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1275979]That’s what it would take though. He’s been a very good QB for his career and coming off a really good season. What are we picking at 19 that is better than Carr? The only QB that could be left by then is Mac Jones.[/quote]

That's a good point

skinsfaninok 01-30-2021 11:03 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[QUOTE=Number44;1275980]I think that a second would do it.[/QUOTE]


Maybe so and I’d do it today seeing as though Stafford is probably out

AnonEmouse 01-30-2021 11:11 AM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
I'd take Carr if he becomes available and the deal was good. Aside from 2017 he's steadily gotten better which suggests to me he's starting to peak. He's 29 which means he has years ahead of him. If you paired his 2020 season (best) with our D we'd definitely be better than 7-9. He'd need 2-3 more weapons, but if the trade wasn't too onerous we'd have picks left to get WR and TE, as well as fill OL and D gaps. And that's assuming we don't make good pickups in FA. In watching him on Hard Knocks and seeing him play, he reminds me of the same style of play as Favre, statistically he's arguably better at this stage of his career (rating, TD:INT).

skinsfaninok 01-30-2021 12:31 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1275985]I'd take Carr if he becomes available and the deal was good. Aside from 2017 he's steadily gotten better which suggests to me he's starting to peak. He's 29 which means he has years ahead of him. If you paired his 2020 season (best) with our D we'd definitely be better than 7-9. He'd need 2-3 more weapons, but if the trade wasn't too onerous we'd have picks left to get WR and TE, as well as fill OL and D gaps. And that's assuming we don't make good pickups in FA. In watching him on Hard Knocks and seeing him play, he reminds me of the same style of play as Favre, statistically he's arguably better at this stage of his career (rating, TD:INT).[/QUOTE]


I agree, his arm is good and he doesn’t make boneheaded decisions. I think the Raiders are dumb if they let him go

MissouriSkin 01-30-2021 12:35 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1275989]I agree, his arm is good and he doesn’t make boneheaded decisions. I think the Raiders are dumb if they let him go[/quote]

Might as well take a chance on him if Gruden does his perpetual “my QB isn’t good enough and I can’t really develop them like I’ve conned people into believing I can, so I’m looking for another one” schtick....for our 2nd or 3rd I’d do it today.

SFREDSKIN 01-30-2021 12:41 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1275989]I agree, his arm is good and he doesn’t make boneheaded decisions. I think the Raiders are dumb if they let him go[/quote]

Yes, he does bonehead decisions, trust me. If the Raiders want to get rid of him there is a reason.

MissouriSkin 01-30-2021 12:54 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1275991]Yes, he does bonehead decisions, trust me. If the Raiders want to get rid of him there is a reason.[/quote]

Yes, Jon Gruden’s an idiot and a horrible coach.

skinsfaninok 01-30-2021 01:10 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
Carr averages 10 INTs a season.. I’d say that’s not too bad

24 Passing TDs per as well.

He’s a solid Top 15 guy

Pervis_Griffith 01-30-2021 01:12 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
Carr's price tag should be much less than Stafford.

Whoever we wind up with, it better not be too expensive.

Carr for a first rounder in any season, and I'll be pissed. But Carr for a 3rd rounder? I'd be happy as a clam.

It all depends on what it costs to get him.

sdskinsfan2001 01-30-2021 01:33 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
I don't love Carr but we need a QB. A 1st seems a tad high but I wouldn't be too mad. A 2nd or lower and I'd be happy.

We need to add a stud WR2 for him though. He isn't an elite playmaker imo, he needs a strong cast (as most do).

Chief X_Phackter 01-30-2021 02:02 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
Statistically, Carr and Stafford are basically the same guy, and Carr is younger. The compensation it would take to land them would likely be very comparable. Especially given the amount of teams that are looking at upgrading their QB situation.

SkinzWin 01-30-2021 06:56 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1276005]Statistically, Carr and Stafford are basically the same guy, and Carr is younger. The compensation it would take to land them would likely be very comparable. Especially given the amount of teams that are looking at upgrading their QB situation.[/quote]

But it’s supply and demand. You hear about 1/3 of the league inquiring about Stafford. You don’t hear that about Carr. To be honest, has anyone ever actually confirmed Carr is available, or is Carr all Twitter hopefuls hype?

Chief X_Phackter 01-30-2021 07:12 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=SkinzWin;1276026]But it’s supply and demand. You hear about 1/3 of the league inquiring about Stafford. You don’t hear that about Carr. To be honest, has anyone ever actually confirmed Carr is available, or is Carr all Twitter hopefuls hype?[/quote]

Well Stafford asked for a trade, that's why a bunch of teams are inquiring. If Carr & Stafford asked for a trade on the same day, all the same teams would be inquiring about both of them.

simbosargos75 01-30-2021 08:23 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
Carr>Stafford.

I'd offer a 2nd for Carr. Would be a massive upgrade for us.

skinsfaninok 01-30-2021 08:35 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
My understanding is the Washington Football Team is open to potentially, dealing more than just a 1st-rounder for a formidable veteran QB, depending on if it's the right deal*. The team is currently exploring its options.

Josina Anderson

skinsfan69 01-30-2021 09:06 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
It would take more than #19 to get Carr. He has been a very good starter now for a few years. Not even sure why or if he's on the market. If Gruden traded him cause he has a hard on for Mariota then he is dumb as dumb gets.

skinsfaninok 01-30-2021 10:15 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
Well scratch Stafford and Goff from the list...

Watson (no happening)
Carr (prob not happening)
Dak (They won't let him walk)
Ryan (If Atlanta takes a QB , it's possible)

We are down to Mariota, Cam , Tyrod...

Chief X_Phackter 01-30-2021 10:18 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
Tyrod Taylor - come on down.

CRedskinsRule 01-30-2021 10:19 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1276049]Well scratch Stafford and Goff from the list...



Watson (no happening)

Carr (prob not happening)

Dak (They won't let him walk)

Ryan (If Atlanta takes a QB , it's possible)



We are down to Mariota, Cam , Tyrod...[/QUOTE]

Bring in Mariota, tender Allen and Heinicke and have an open competition.



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skinsfaninok 01-30-2021 10:19 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1276051]Tyrod Taylor - come on down.[/quote]

I'd rather roll with Alex Smith on one leg for one more yr

skinsfaninok 01-30-2021 10:22 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
Rams’ first round picks by year:
2016: Jared Goff
2017: None
2018: None
2019: None
2020: None
2021: None
2022: None
2023: None

SFREDSKIN 01-30-2021 10:22 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1275943]not going to happen. mcvay may be sour on goff but they paid him already. they are stuck w/ each other.[/quote]

You were saying...

skinsfaninok 01-30-2021 10:23 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
League source gives opinion on #Lions decision to take the #Rams deal for Matthew Stafford: "The Rams were screwed with a bad contract on (Jared) Goff and the #Lions helped them and don't even get a good pick this year. The Washington offer was better."

Josina

EARTHQUAKE2689 01-30-2021 10:25 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
Whats with everyone's obsession with Mariotta?

Chief X_Phackter 01-30-2021 10:25 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1276061]League source gives opinion on #Lions decision to take the #Rams deal for Matthew Stafford: "The Rams were screwed with a bad contract on (Jared) Goff and the #Lions helped them and don't even get a good pick this year. The Washington offer was better."

Josina[/quote]

Could mean Stafford chose Rams over WFT.

SFREDSKIN 01-30-2021 10:26 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1276063]Whats with everyone's obsession with Mariotta?[/quote]

Rather have CJ Beathard

Chief X_Phackter 01-30-2021 10:29 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1276063]Whats with everyone's obsession with Mariotta?[/quote]

Hard to say. He's not close to the best option, and he's not a FA.

SkinzWin 01-30-2021 10:30 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1276054]Bring in Mariota, tender Allen and Heinicke and have an open competition.



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Mariota is garbage. Washed out in Tennessee and wasn’t good enough to be any more than a backup. Don’t want him. Or Cam.

My list is of next possible QBs:

Want:
Watson (not going to happen)
Dak (doubtful)
Carr (probably not available)

Don’t want but could live with:
Darnold
Hurts
Bridgewater
Ryan
Taylor

Don’t want under any circumstance:
Garopolo
Trubisky
Winston
Mariota
Newton
Wentz

punch it in 01-30-2021 10:33 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1276063]Whats with everyone's obsession with Mariotta?[/QUOTE]



I had no idea there was obsession there. I want absolutely nothing to do with that though.

punch it in 01-30-2021 10:37 PM

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 
At this point let someone fall in the draft, trade up if necessary for Lance or Fields. Maybe Mac Jones will be there at 19.


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