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[quote=Giantone;1272191]What do you call a coach who goes for it on 4th and goal when a field goal would tie it ,..............in a three point game.[/quote]

No I agree they were not trying to win the game (which was meaningless to them), I just don't like the narrative that it was some sort of sure thing they'd had won if they had tried. They were trailing in a game in which their offense couldn't move the ball in the second half.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1272191]What do you call a coach who goes for it on 4th and goal when a field goal would tie it ,..............in a three point game.[/QUOTE]RR went for the win instead of tie in the first Giants game. And Pederson is known for going for the contrarian action. He goes for the most 4th downs of any coach in the league, so if he gets a TD on that 4th down he would have taken the lead with our offense also struggling.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1272193]RR went for the win instead of tie in the first Giants game. And Pederson is known for going for the contrarian action. He goes for the most 4th downs of any coach in the league.

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Yeah I remember the announcers saying the analytics say go for it in this situation... but the analytics don't factor in context. Because this 4th and 4 with this offense against this defense in this game doesn't look too good to me. If I'm an Eagles fan and I want my team to win the game I'm mad in this situation.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1272193]RR went for the win instead of tie in the first Giants game. And Pederson is known for going for the contrarian action. He goes for the most 4th downs of any coach in the league, so if he gets a TD on that 4th down he would have taken the lead with our offense also struggling.

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Plus. With our offense not really doing anything they either score 7 there, or pin us back in a game he re we weremt moving theg ball
That made total sense to me

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1272194]Yeah I remember the announcers saying the analytics say go for it in this situation... but the analytics don't factor in context. Because this 4th and 4 with this offense against this defense in this game doesn't look too good to me. If I'm an Eagles fan and I want my team to win the game I'm mad in this situation.[/QUOTE]Most WFT fans were mad with RR, my point is with about 15 minutes left Pederson was trying to win by getting a knockout punch on our goalline. When he swung and missed he pulled the qb who had a 45 qbr was 7 for 20, and just failed to score from the 15 yd line. For the people who are whining, him replacing Hurts is very characteristic of Pederson's coaching.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1272190]Nope,...............[/QUOTE]



I didn’t say you. I said Giant fans. I live here. So yes. Yes they were.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1272191]What do you call a coach who goes for it on 4th and goal when a field goal would tie it ,..............in a three point game.[/QUOTE]



Ron Rivera? Oh wait that was us not kicking an extra point to tie it when we had 100 percent of the momentum......
How is it any different for us not to tie the game then? Didn’t hear any accusations though because it benefited your team.

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Listen G one. If the situation was reversed every one of us would be saying what you are and you would be saying what we all are. That goes for every Giants fan and every WFT fan. BUT...big BUT ... it did not. So you all have to watch the playoffs without your team in it and at the end of the day you should have won another game.
Not that keeping hurts in or kicking a fg to tie it would have meant you wouldn’t be watching still...

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[quote=punch it in;1272198]Ron Rivera? Oh wait that was us not kicking an extra point to tie it when we had 100 percent of the momentum......
How is it any different for us not to tie the game then? Didn’t hear any accusations though because it benefited your team.[/quote]

First I'm not jumping on anything Washington has done. I said before I like RR and thought you guys deserved what you earned . Seems many have a hard time taking the Giants out of the equation. Maybe this might help.

[url]https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/doug-pederson-eagles-tank-jason-kelce-jalen-hurts-nate-sudfeld-joe-judge-20210104.html[/url]


When Doug Pederson pulled Jalen Hurts for Nate Sudfeld early in the fourth quarter in Sunday’s season finale against Washington, many Eagles players and coaches were shocked and outraged, team sources told The Inquirer.

Some were angry. Two defensive players had to be held back from approaching Pederson. Center Jason Kelce and another offensive starter went to the coach to ask him why he had pulled the starting quarterback with the Eagles trailing by only three.

Hurts was distraught, as well. Even though he had been told Wednesday that there was a chance Sudfeld could play, he couldn’t understand why Pederson would make the switch, sources close to the situation said.

The NBC broadcast caught Hurts on the bench after he was replaced apparently saying, “That’s not right.”

“As a competitor, I play to win,” Hurts said after the game when asked for his reaction. “You have to trust [Pederson’s plan].”

In many cases, Eagles players and assistants had no inclination that Sudfeld was part of the offensive game plan, and if they did, they figured it had been abandoned because of the tight score.

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[quote=punch it in;1272203]Listen G one. If the situation was reversed every one of us would be saying what you are and you would be saying what we all are. That goes for every Giants fan and every WFT fan. BUT...big BUT ... it did not. So you all have to watch the playoffs without your team in it and at the end of the day you should have won another game.[/quote]

Simple fact if the Giants wanted to be in the playoffs they should have won more games but this isn't about the Giants ,it's about Pederson the Coach of the Eagles and the credibility problem he has just created for the NFL and the integrity of the game.

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Lol G1...

10 losses, the Giants didn’t deserve to make the playoffs in any scenario

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People around the league like to cry about the integrity of the game when it suits them. Benching starters when you have the division wrapped up is ok but making a QB change during an equally meaningless game isn't? Just stop.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1272206]Simple fact if the Giants wanted to be in the playoffs they should have won more games but this isn't about the Giants ,it's about Pederson the Coach of the Eagles and the credibility problem he has just created for the NFL and the integrity of the game.[/QUOTE]



Idk man tanking happens in many ways. Usually it is more subtle like players being scratched and they call it a look see for next year. So when it comes down to a team playing a meaningless game they can do whatever they want. Only thing imo that would effect the integrity of a game is if the coach had a bet in.

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[quote=Giantone;1272206]Simple fact if the Giants wanted to be in the playoffs they should have won more games but this isn't about the Giants ,[B]it's about Pederson the Coach of the Eagles and the credibility problem he has just created for the NFL and the integrity of the game[/B].[/quote]


I think this is way overblown

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[quote=GridIron26;1272211]I think this is way overblown[/quote]

It will be a non story in another day or two