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SBXVII 04-30-2011 04:36 PM

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Center Alex Linnenkohl from Oregon State is still out there
Center Jake Kirkpatrick TCU

Zach Hurd RG/RT
Bryant Browning RG/RT

drew54 04-30-2011 04:36 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;799722]He's not going anywhere, too valuable as a returner.[/quote]

I could see him end up on the bubble as he is a one trick pony. It appears Paul was a good return guy at Nebraska, and Austin was a return guy in UCLA. Royster returned punts at Penn State.

GusFrerotte 04-30-2011 04:37 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;799722]He's not going anywhere, too valuable as a returner.[/quote]


Depends on what they decide to do with the newbies. Maybe the Hurricane with the better hands will handle those duties.

Dirtbag59 04-30-2011 04:37 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;799746]Center Alex Linnenkohl from Oregon State is still out there
Center Jake Kirkpatrick TCU

[B]Zach Hurd RG/RT[/B]
Bryant Browning RG/RT[/quote]

Yeah XXVI. Let's get them. Man what a weak band wagon.

SBXVII 04-30-2011 04:37 PM

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What's up with Powe? he's still there right? something majorly wrong with him?

SkinzWin 04-30-2011 04:38 PM

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St. Louis just called McElroy to say they want to draft him and to hang on.

Beemnseven 04-30-2011 04:39 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;799739]This is why I hate the Redskins drafting; We do so well getting a couple of our needs in the first couple of rounds, then we go out and draft positions we don't need, like Safety or we overdraft a position like WR. We got Hankerson who'll do great, then we got Paul and I was like ok whatever, now we're done drafting WR's (too bad we didn't get my guy Jeff Mahael of Oregon) then we go and get this Robinson WR from SMU?!?!?!?!? Why Redskins? WHY???
We could have drafted a position of need like a guard or center or tackle or NT JERRELL POWE !!!! Why is he still on the board?!?!?! We NEED a NT!

I swear to god if we draft another TE or S ....[/quote]

Dude ... chill. In the 6th round you're throwing darts at a board hoping that one of them works out for you. Obviously Shanahan isn't high on any of the O-linemen or nose tackles at this point in the draft.

His philosophy is to load up on the speedy skill players at running back and wideout with the hope that one of them turns out to be lightning in a bottle. He's creating a free-for-all for guys who want the ball and want to be playmakers. And that's precisely what this team needs.

They just feel like there's a better chance for that than an Anthony Munoz or Warren Sapp that everybody else has missed.

GusFrerotte 04-30-2011 04:39 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;799746]Center Alex Linnenkohl from Oregon State is still out there
Center Jake Kirkpatrick TCU

Zach Hurd RG/RT
Bryant Browning RG/RT[/quote]


Shoot draft any or all of em!!! We stock up on these guys this will be the best draft in a very, very, very, long time!!!!!!

Bisondice 04-30-2011 04:39 PM

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Watch "Roy Helu after CU" on Youtube


Looks like Helu is Tongan Tim Tebow

SBXVII 04-30-2011 04:39 PM

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[quote=SkinzWin;799751]St. Louis just called McElroy to say they want to draft him and to hang on.[/quote]

"We just called... to say.... we want you" lol.

CultBrennan59 04-30-2011 04:39 PM

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My best available:

Jerrell Powe NT Mississippi (he must have done something to make everyone not want him, unless its a major crime, hes worth a 7th rounder to me)
Jeff Mahael WR Oregon (hey we've already drafted this many, why not?)
Ryan Barthelomew C Syracuse
Chase Beeler C Stanford
Thomas Keiser OLB Standford
Mark Herzlich LB BC
Johnny Culbreth OT South Carolina State
David Mims OT Virginia Union
Chas Henry P Florida
Danny Aiken LS UVA
Justin Rogers CB Richmond
Kendrick Burney UNC
Mike Person G Montana State
Kenny Rowe OLB Oregon

Dirtbag59 04-30-2011 04:40 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;799750]What's up with Powe? he's still there right? something majorly wrong with him?[/quote]

I know he was graded a 41 by Scouts Inc.

90 - 1st Round
80 - 2nd Round
70 - 3rd round
60 - 4th
50 - 5th
40 - 6th
30 - 7th

So assuming their grade is right it's not to unusual for a 6th rounder to drop to the 7th as many guys with 7th round grades go earlier.

CultBrennan59 04-30-2011 04:42 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;799757]I know he was graded a 41 by Scouts Inc.

90 - 1st Round
80 - 2nd Round
70 - 3rd round
60 - 4th
50 - 5th
40 - 6th
30 - 7th

So assuming their grade is right it's not to unusual for a 6th rounder to drop to the 7th as many guys with 7th round grades go earlier.[/quote]

Ok, whats werid is that he was project by pretty much every draft magazine, scout, analyst as a late 2nd to 4th rounder... He doesn't have any injury concerns so...

GusFrerotte 04-30-2011 04:44 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;799744]Well the Nevada kid was in the same ballpark as Newton in terms of physical tools. A good comparison for McElroy might be Fitzpatrick. Both were smart, productive QB's that were overlooked on draft day.[/quote]


Yeah, but you should draft a QB with the right combo of brains and ability. McElroy does have the brain, but I thought he had some decent ability also. He could make a better QB than Locker if given the chance. Locker is the biggest puzzlement for me in terms of how many people loved him, and not just fellow Warpathers. He is a nice kid and does have the raw tools, but I wouldn't use a first round pick on a developmental project.

drew54 04-30-2011 04:44 PM

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[quote=SkinzWin;799751]St. Louis just called McElroy to say they want to draft him and to hang on.[/quote]

Skins have pick 213.

Rams next pick is 216.

They could steal him.

Dirtbag59 04-30-2011 04:44 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;799758]Ok, whats werid is that he was project by pretty much every draft magazine, scout, analyst as a late 2nd to 4th rounder... He doesn't have any injury concerns so...[/quote]

Can't speak for the other two but I know magazines are sometimes published a little to early. Still hopefully they get him with one of these four 7th round picks.

REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE 04-30-2011 04:46 PM

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People gotta also remember that we run that zone blocking scheme and that every olineman isnt built to zone block. That may be the reasoning behind us not drafting any olinemen. I want us to draft a center so bad though....Im so tired of Rabach. I will do a back flip if we draft the center Syracuse. That's my squad....

SkinzWin 04-30-2011 04:46 PM

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[quote=drew54;799760]Skins have pick 213.

Rams next pick is 216.

They could steal him.[/quote]

Yeah I just looked that up. Pleasantly surprised but I know I will be ultimately devastated after pick 213.

Dirtbag59 04-30-2011 04:47 PM

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Two guards to look out for Keith Williams and Richard Henry. Why you ask? Are they athletic, tough, agile, experienced? Heck if I know. But they both played Guard at Nebraska.

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1123592]Keith Williams, Nebraska, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com[/url]
[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1630809]Ricky Henry, Nebraska, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com[/url]

SkinzWin 04-30-2011 04:51 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;799764]Two guards to look out for Keith Williams and Richard Henry. Why you ask? Are they athletic, tough, agile, experienced? Heck if I know. But they both played Guard at Nebraska.[/quote]

Williams just got drafted.

Dirtbag59 04-30-2011 04:54 PM

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[quote=SkinzWin;799765]Williams just got drafted.[/quote]

Don't they know we called dibs?

drew54 04-30-2011 04:55 PM

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Does anyone else remember last year when people were PISSED, then in the 7th round Redskins select (229)- C Erik Cook New Mexico and (231)- OT Selvish Capers West Virginia. The board went nuts.

I am assuming a similar 7th round.

sdskinsfan2001 04-30-2011 04:55 PM

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[quote=SkinzWin;799611]Good luck fighting off 15 other teams, 3 of which from out own division who want him badly.[/quote]

We do not want to sign him, Skins need to stop signing all of these high priced free agents, he will cost tons and he is starting to get older. We need to move on to young free agents and draft picks. Save the money.

GusFrerotte 04-30-2011 04:56 PM

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[quote=REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE;799762]People gotta also remember that we run that zone blocking scheme and that every olineman isnt built to zone block. That may be the reasoning behind us not drafting any olinemen. I want us to draft a center so bad though....Im so tired of Rabach. I will do a back flip if we draft the center Syracuse. That's my squad....[/quote]

I here you, but I think most of us just are in a "get the bums" out mentality. It would be nice to land at least one interior linemen this draft, two would be even better.

Defensewins 04-30-2011 04:56 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;799741]All these draft pundits lover this SMU kid.[/quote]

The NFL Network's Mike Mayock and Charles Davis love Aldrick Robinson. They say he is really fast, real fast acceleration off the line to stretch defenses. They like how the first two WR are big body guys to work the middle of the field and now have Aldrick Robinson to stretch it.

REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE 04-30-2011 04:57 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;799768]We do not want to sign him, Skins need to stop signing all of these high priced free agents, he will cost tons and he is starting to get older. We need to move on to young free agents and draft picks. Save the money.[/quote]


Yeah, we already have a ton of money tied up in our secondary already.

CultBrennan59 04-30-2011 04:58 PM

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Chiefs took OUR NT who we needed!! Powes Gone!

SkinzWin 04-30-2011 04:58 PM

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Oh NO! There goes Powe!!!

81forHOF 04-30-2011 04:59 PM

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Damn. powe just went

SBXVII 04-30-2011 04:59 PM

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Chiefs took Powe

Dirtbag59 04-30-2011 05:00 PM

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I feel like taking a corner.

skinsfan57 04-30-2011 05:03 PM

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I may have missed it,but I think everyone so far has passed on QBs Pat Devlin and Greg McElroy. something wrong with them?

SkinzWin 04-30-2011 05:04 PM

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[quote=skinsfan57;799777]I may have missed it,but I think everyone so far has passed on QBs Pat Devlin and Greg McElroy. something wrong with them?[/quote]

Nope. Skins threatened to sick Fat Al on any team who tried to draft them.

Dirtbag59 04-30-2011 05:05 PM

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[quote=skinsfan57;799777]I may have missed it,but I think everyone so far has passed on QBs Pat Devlin and Greg McElroy. something wrong with them?[/quote]

Delvin....wasn't very productive at the FCS level and didn't have the physical tools to make up for that. McElroy, just no one wants to take the time to develop Ryan Fitzpatrick.

CultBrennan59 04-30-2011 05:07 PM

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Well Skins fans the Redskins either didn't want Powe or got cocky thinking they could get him in the 7th round.

Beemnseven 04-30-2011 05:09 PM

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I know just about everybody can't stand the fact that we've passed up on O-line and D-line. But I just can't argue with the strategy here. Think of it this way ... what has this team sorely missed over the years? Weapons. Guys who can take the ball and score.

So why not load up on as many speedy, elusive running backs and wideouts as you can; increasing the odds of a dynamite playmaker who can beat every defender to the endzone. Shanahan and Allen clearly like those odds over a bookend tackle who'll anchor the line for 10 years.

Dirtbag59 04-30-2011 05:09 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;799780]Well Skins fans the Redskins either didn't want Powe or got cocky thinking they could get him in the 7th round.[/quote]

There are two type of teams on draft day. Teams that get anxious and go after big names that everyone has been talking about, or teams like the Redskins that trade back and let the draft come to them, sometimes they get guys a little early (Jenkins) other times they end up with steals (Hankerson), and sometimes they get alleged steals at crowded positions (SMU kid whose name I'll know by the end of the day)>

Dirtbag59 04-30-2011 05:11 PM

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[quote=SkinzWin;799778]Nope. Skins threatened to sick Fat Al on any team who tried to draft them.[/quote]

And they said Ha you can't make us sign him, to which they responded "maybe, but we can easily go back to his contract and give him a bonus for living in your city."

skinsfaninok 04-30-2011 05:12 PM

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GTripp any list of best available ?

CultBrennan59 04-30-2011 05:13 PM

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Well there goes another sleeper of mine, Justin Rogers. He'll be good one day.


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