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[quote=punch it in;1276073]At this point let someone fall in the draft, trade up if necessary for Lance or Fields. Maybe Mac Jones will be there at 19.[/quote]
Even if Lance is less polished, I would rather have him. Higher ceiling. I haven’t heard terrific things about Fields, but I hear Lance is meticulous in his planning, organization, film study, and work ethic. I can get behind that. |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=skinsfaninok;1276061]League source gives opinion on #Lions decision to take the #Rams deal for Matthew Stafford: "The Rams were screwed with a bad contract on (Jared) Goff and the #Lions helped them and don't even get a good pick this year. The Washington offer was better."
Josina[/quote] Wonder what we offered and how I would have felt LOLOL |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1276065]Rather have CJ Beathard[/quote]
If you played quarterback you'd be telegraphing every throw you make. |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1276063]Whats with everyone's obsession with Mariotta?[/quote]
Didn't mean it as an obsessive thing. My point moreso was bring in a vet qb without trading a high pick, and have an open competition. At this point there is no qb I want to trade #19 for (Watson is an exception, but that is not happening so I discount him) |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[QUOTE=SkinzWin;1276077]Even if Lance is less polished, I would rather have him. Higher ceiling. I haven’t heard terrific things about Fields, but I hear Lance is meticulous in his planning, organization, film study, and work ethic. I can get behind that.[/QUOTE]
Yeah i tend to lean towards lance too but I think that is because im extremely apprehensive about OSU quarterbacks right now. Point is now we certainly have to draft a quarterback or at least try to. |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
Rams havent had a 1st rd pick since 2016, but are in the playoffs every year. But some refuse to believe that Proven players > picks. Id trade my 1st rd pick for the next 5 years if it meant Deshaun Watson was coming to my team
Posy off Twitter. Makes sense |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1276082]Didn't mean it as an obsessive thing. My point moreso was bring in a vet qb without trading a high pick, and have an open competition.
At this point there is no qb I want to trade #19 for (Watson is an exception, but that is not happening so I discount him)[/quote] I've seen his name so much ans i just dont get it |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=skinsfaninok;1276061]League source gives opinion on #Lions decision to take the #Rams deal for Matthew Stafford: "The Rams were screwed with a bad contract on (Jared) Goff and the #Lions helped them and don't even get a good pick this year. The [B]Washington offer was better[/B]."
Josina[/quote] Whoa! |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[QUOTE=Chico23231;1276096]Whoa![/QUOTE]Well technically this year's first rounder is better than future first rounders.
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Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1276078]Wonder what we offered and how I would have felt LOLOL[/quote]
I could only think of 3 1's to top the Rams offer |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=Chico23231;1276096]Whoa![/quote]
Glad it wasn't us, probably included Payne or Allen or Sweat, plus 2 1st's and a second. I would have been pissed. |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1276091]Rams havent had a 1st rd pick since 2016, but are in the playoffs every year. But some refuse to believe that Proven players > picks. Id trade my 1st rd pick for the next 5 years if it meant Deshaun Watson was coming to my team
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Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=skinsfaninok;1276099]I could only think of 3 1's to top the Rams offer[/quote]
I'm thinking a similar offer, but we have a first round pick this season and the Rams doesn't. |
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[url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-washington-open-trading-more-020110722.html[/url]
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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1276112][url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-washington-open-trading-more-020110722.html[/url][/quote]
That’s crazy you have Payne and Allen on a do not trade list but Sweat is chop liver. |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=SkinzWin;1276118]That’s crazy you have Payne and Allen on a do not trade list but Sweat is chop liver.[/quote]
I would never trade Sweat, I'd trade Allen or Payne, don't know where you are getting your info. |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1276120]I would never trade Sweat, I'd trade Allen or Payne, don't know where you are getting your info.[/quote]
It was a link within the article you linked, which 5 players are untouchable in a trade scenario. They listed McLauren, Young, Allen, Payne, and 24 RB. I think Payne or Allen would have been the traded player, with Matty I backing them up. |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[B][U]Potential Trade Targets:[/U][/B]
Deshaun Watson $10.5m cap hit in 2021 Carson Wentz $25m or $35m cap hit in 2021 depending on timing due to contracted bonus Matt Ryan $23m cap hit in 2021 Jimmy Garoppolo $25.5m cap hit in 2021 Derek Carr $19.6m cap hit in 2021 Teddy Bridgewater $18m cap hit in 2021 Nick Foles $4m cap hit in 2021 Sam Darnold $4.7m cap hit in 2021 Jalen Hurts $883K cap hit in 2021 Gardner Minshew $850K cap hit in 2021 [B][U]Potential free-agent quarterbacks:[/U][/B] Dak Prescott 29 yo Jacoby Brissett 30 yo Mitchell Trubisky 28 yo Tyrod Taylor 33 yo Ryan Fitzpatrick 40 yo Andy Dalton 35 yo Colt McCoy 36 yo Robert Griffin 32 yo Nate Sudfeld 29 yo Joe Flacco 37 yo Mike Glennon 33 yo Jameis Winston 28 yo Bryan Hoyer 37 yo Blake Bortles 31 yo CJ Beathard 29 yo |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
A treasure chest of draft capital and players would be necessary for Texans to seriously consider trade proposals for Deshaun Watson. At least three ones and more. Texans' stance right now is he's under contract and not available. Watson has requested trade. Staredown continues
Aaron Wilson - Houston Chronicle |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=skinsfaninok;1276125]A treasure chest of draft capital and players would be necessary for Texans to seriously consider trade proposals for Deshaun Watson. At least three ones and more. Texans' stance right now is he's under contract and not available. Watson has requested trade. Staredown continues
Aaron Wilson - Houston Chronicle[/quote] Ultimately I believe Watson wins that staring contest. |
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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1276124][B][U]Potential Trade Targets:[/U][/B]
Deshaun Watson $10.5m cap hit in 2021 Carson Wentz $25m or $35m cap hit in 2021 depending on timing due to contracted bonus Matt Ryan $23m cap hit in 2021 Jimmy Garoppolo $25.5m cap hit in 2021 Derek Carr $19.6m cap hit in 2021 Teddy Bridgewater $18m cap hit in 2021 Nick Foles $4m cap hit in 2021 Sam Darnold $4.7m cap hit in 2021 Jalen Hurts $883K cap hit in 2021 Gardner Minshew $850K cap hit in 2021 [B][U]Potential free-agent quarterbacks:[/U][/B] Dak Prescott 29 yo Jacoby Brissett 30 yo Mitchell Trubisky 28 yo Tyrod Taylor 33 yo Ryan Fitzpatrick 40 yo Andy Dalton 35 yo Colt McCoy 36 yo Robert Griffin 32 yo Nate Sudfeld 29 yo Joe Flacco 37 yo Mike Glennon 33 yo Jameis Winston 28 yo Bryan Hoyer 37 yo Blake Bortles 31 yo CJ Beathard 29 yo[/quote] At this point I would try to trade for Hurts (if Philly is willing to, I'm sure they want too much), or Darnold. |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1276124][B][U]Potential Trade Targets:[/U][/B]
[B]Deshaun Watson $10.5m cap hit in 2021[/B] [B]Carson Wentz $25m or $35m cap hit in 2021 depending on timing due to contracted bonus[/B] [B]Matt Ryan $23m cap hit in 2021[/B] Jimmy Garoppolo $25.5m cap hit in 2021 [B]Derek Carr $19.6m cap hit in 2021[/B] Teddy Bridgewater $18m cap hit in 2021 Nick Foles $4m cap hit in 2021 [B]Sam Darnold $4.7m cap hit in 2021[/B] Jalen Hurts $883K cap hit in 2021 Gardner Minshew $850K cap hit in 2021 [B][U]Potential free-agent quarterbacks:[/U][/B] Dak Prescott 29 yo Jacoby Brissett 30 yo Mitchell Trubisky 28 yo Tyrod Taylor 33 yo Ryan Fitzpatrick 40 yo Andy Dalton 35 yo Colt McCoy 36 yo Robert Griffin 32 yo Nate Sudfeld 29 yo Joe Flacco 37 yo Mike Glennon 33 yo Jameis Winston 28 yo Bryan Hoyer 37 yo Blake Bortles 31 yo CJ Beathard 29 yo[/quote] Wentz = HELL NO and they wouldn't deal him to us anyway. McNabb was old and done that's why that happened. The other guys in bold are guys I'd take. Dak as the #1 FA but Dallas will tag him again |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=skinsfaninok;1276125]A treasure chest of draft capital and players would be necessary for Texans to seriously consider trade proposals for Deshaun Watson. At least three ones and more. Texans' stance right now is he's under contract and not available. Watson has requested trade. Staredown continues
Aaron Wilson - Houston Chronicle[/quote] It's going to take at least 4 1sts, probably a second and one of our DLineman. No thanks. |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
Washington made the Lions a significant offer for QB
Matthew Stafford, per sources. One person familiar with the situation said the WFT offer included more immediate help than what Lions landed. Detroit went another way. The search for a QB rolls on. Ben Standig |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=skinsfaninok;1276130]Washington made the Lions a significant offer for QB
Matthew Stafford, per sources. One person familiar with the situation said the WFT offer included more immediate help than what Lions landed. Detroit went another way. The search for a QB rolls on. Ben Standig[/quote] Rams saving us from our own stupidity. Thank you. |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=skinsfaninok;1276130]Washington made the Lions a significant offer for QB
Matthew Stafford, per sources. One person familiar with the situation said the WFT offer included more immediate help than what Lions landed. Detroit went another way. The search for a QB rolls on. Ben Standig[/quote] This is what I was referring to earlier: Glad it wasn't us, they probably would have included Payne or Allen or Sweat, plus 2 1st's and a second. I would have been pissed. |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
This would be my order for trade targets if that is the way they choose to go. I'm not interested in anyone else. I'm barely interested in anyone after Carr, but I think Darnold and Hurts at least have potential.
Deshaun Watson $10.5m cap hit in 2021 Derek Carr $19.6m cap hit in 2021 Sam Darnold $4.7m cap hit in 2021 Jalen Hurts $883K cap hit in 2021 |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1276091]Rams havent had a 1st rd pick since 2016, but are in the playoffs every year. But some refuse to believe that Proven players > picks. Id trade my 1st rd pick for the next 5 years if it meant Deshaun Watson was coming to my team
Posy off Twitter. Makes sense[/quote] And you would never have enough talent around him to win anything. He is a good not great QB, especially as pocket passer. Rams have a solid core with talent EVERYWHERE except QB, such a trade much more defensible for them, especially getting to dump the AWFUL Goff contract, he NEVER should have been extended. Ramsey is a HOF-caliber shutdown corner, sound trade. Not opposed to ALL trades for picks, Ramsey HOF player in prime for two late 1st rounders. They traded a total of 2 1sts (2016-2017), 2 2nds, 2 3rds for Geoff, who they just traded, and a 1st for Brandin Cook, neither player still on roster. They are mortgaging the future to win a SB next 1-2 years. Maybe it works out, maybe it doesn't, but they again have a truly stacked roster and are honestly just a QB away from contending. We don't and aren't. |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1276133]This would be my order for trade targets if that is the way they choose to go. I'm not interested in anyone else. I'm barely interested in anyone after Carr, but I think Darnold and Hurts at least have potential.
Deshaun Watson $10.5m cap hit in 2021 Derek Carr $19.6m cap hit in 2021 Sam Darnold $4.7m cap hit in 2021 Jalen Hurts $883K cap hit in 2021[/quote] Drafted QB: 2.3M cap hit maximum for 4 years. |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
The clear sign I think is, Rivera isn't waiting for the draft to figure out the QB situation, if at all possible.
I expect us to be in the discussion for a lot of QBs until we land one. |
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[quote=Scalper;1276134]And you would never have enough talent around him to win anything. He is a good not great QB, especially as pocket passer.
Rams have a solid core with talent EVERYWHERE except QB, such a trade much more defensible for them, especially getting to dump the AWFUL Goff contract, he NEVER should have been extended. Ramsey is a HOF-caliber shutdown corner, sound trade. Not opposed to ALL trades for picks, Ramsey HOF player in prime for two late 1st rounders. They traded a total of 2 1sts (2016-2017), 2 2nds, 2 3rds for Geoff, who they just traded, and a 1st for Brandin Cook, neither player still on roster. They are mortgaging the future to win a SB next 1-2 years. Maybe it works out, maybe it doesn't, but they again have a truly stacked roster and are honestly just a QB away from contending. We don't and aren't.[/quote] They may be stacked but they have a bit of a salary cap issue. With not a lot of room for relief. They are the definition of a boom/bust play. If they don't hit the SB next year they will blow the whole thing up. |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=Scalper;1276135]Drafted QB: 2.3M cap hit maximum for 4 years.[/quote]
Did you see the stat posted earlier. Of the 22 qb's drafted in the 1st round from 2009 to 2016 ZERO are on their original team. From 2017 on you have: Tribulsky(2017, #2) - DUD Watson (2017,#12)- Star with attitude Mahones (2017#10) - possibly the next GOAT Mayfield (2018,#1) - Mixed Darnold (2018, #3) - DUD Allen (2018, #7) - Mixed but rising Rosen (2018, #10) - BUST Jackson(2018, #32) - Star Murray (2019, #1) - Rising with ? Jones (2019,#6) - Mixed Haskins(2019, #15) - BUST So depending on how you rank them, out of 11 1st round qb's since 2017 you have 2 to 3 elite (Mahones, Jackson, Watson) 2 to 4 mixed but definitely need time to grow (Mayfield, Allen, Jones, Murray) 3 to 4 busts or duds (Darnold, Tribulsky, Haskins, Rosen) Drafting a qb, even in the first round is no guarantee - even with good scouting, evaluation and sound FO choices. Drafting is the solution to ALOT of team issues, but QB talent is best examined on the NFL field of play and if you can get a proven QB it is worth trading for. That said, the level of proven talent available now dropped significantly with Stafford gone |
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1276138]Did you see the stat posted earlier. Of the 22 qb's drafted in the 1st round from 2009 to 2016 ZERO are on their original team.
From 2017 on you have: Tribulsky(2017, #2) - DUD Watson (2017,#12)- Star with attitude Mahones (2017#10) - possibly the next GOAT Mayfield (2018,#1) - Mixed Darnold (2018, #3) - DUD Allen (2018, #7) - Mixed but rising Rosen (2018, #10) - BUST Jackson(2018, #32) - Star Murray (2019, #1) - Rising with ? Jones (2019,#6) - Mixed Haskins(2019, #15) - BUST So depending on how you rank them, out of 11 1st round qb's since 2017 you have 2 to 3 elite (Mahones, Jackson, Watson) 2 to 4 mixed but definitely need time to grow (Mayfield, Allen, Jones, Murray) 3 to 4 busts or duds (Darnold, Tribulsky, Haskins, Rosen) Drafting a qb, even in the first round is no guarantee - even with good scouting, evaluation and sound FO choices. Drafting is the solution to ALOT of team issues, but QB talent is best examined on the NFL field of play and if you can get a proven QB it is worth trading for. That said, the level of proven talent available now dropped significantly with Stafford gone[/quote] Tell that to Brady, Russell Wilson, Prescott, Cousins. You can find a diamond in the draft. |
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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1276139]Tell that to Brady, Russell Wilson, Prescott, Cousins. You can find a diamond in the draft.[/QUOTE]I didnt say you couldn't. BUT picking a qb in the 1st is no guarantee of success. And those diamonds minus Wilson still need time and stability to develop.
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Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
Stafford is out.
Who do y'all have for your next option (assume the draft is out)? I'll take Fitzgerald on a 1 year deal, with the assumption we keep Heinicke/Allen. 2nd place - A 2nd for Carr (maybe even a 1st, I'll flip flop on this frequently) |
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1276138]Did you see the stat posted earlier. Of the 22 qb's drafted in the 1st round from 2009 to 2016 ZERO are on their original team.
From 2017 on you have: Tribulsky(2017, #2) - DUD Watson (2017,#12)- Star with attitude Mahones (2017#10) - possibly the next GOAT Mayfield (2018,#1) - Mixed Darnold (2018, #3) - DUD Allen (2018, #7) - Mixed but rising Rosen (2018, #10) - BUST Jackson(2018, #32) - Star Murray (2019, #1) - Rising with ? Jones (2019,#6) - Mixed Haskins(2019, #15) - BUST So depending on how you rank them, out of 11 1st round qb's since 2017 you have 2 to 3 elite (Mahones, Jackson, Watson) 2 to 4 mixed but definitely need time to grow (Mayfield, Allen, Jones, Murray) 3 to 4 busts or duds (Darnold, Tribulsky, Haskins, Rosen) Drafting a qb, even in the first round is no guarantee - even with good scouting, evaluation and sound FO choices. Drafting is the solution to ALOT of team issues, but QB talent is best examined on the NFL field of play and if you can get a proven QB it is worth trading for. That said, the level of proven talent available now dropped significantly with Stafford gone[/quote] That is why you must commit to spending multiple picks over multiple years to find a true franchise QB. This means trading up is generally unwise, though that is how Chiefs got Mahomes, but even then they didn't trade a King's Ransom to move up to #1. They were at #27, they traded that pick, plus a 3rd, plus #1 next year which ended up being #22. Less than many people wanted to give up for Stafford. There is a difference between THE DAN deciding to trade up for a player (RGIII), and pro scouts or competent FOs. Finally, your analysis is skewed. because it does not consider where all the successful NFL QBs came from. One might draw many conclusions from your analysis, but one is that you don't have to draft in the 1st round, top-15 especially, to find a franchise QB. What separates the booms and busts? How you support and develop a QB is also critical. Does it really matter who the Skins drafted at QB, or the Jags, or Browns, given what dysfunctional messes they have been? Virtually no QB had chance of success, how do you factor that into stats? Teams consistently reach on QBs out of desperation also. It would be one thing if we were loaded with talent all over our roster and only a QB was missing to contend for SB, but that is NOT this team, not by a LONG shot. We should continue to draft and develop talent, including at QB, and continue targeting QBs in draft we think have franchise-QB potential. This is less glamorous, less immediate gratification than the trading the farm modality all the homers seem to love, but it is the sound approach. So the real question, now that the Rams saved us from ourselves, is what QBs outside the top-4 in the draft would make sense at #19 or in the 2nd round? What QB makes sense later in draft in 5th or 6th round? What 2 QBs should we draft this year early round and late round? |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=Scalper;1276144]That is why you must commit to spending multiple picks over multiple years to find a true franchise QB. [B]This means trading up is generally unwise, though that is how Chiefs got Mahomes, but even then they didn't trade a King's Ransom to move up to #1. They were at #27, they traded that pick, plus a 3rd, plus #1 next year which ended up being #22. Less than many people wanted to give up for Stafford[/B]. There is a difference between THE DAN deciding to trade up for a player (RGIII), and pro scouts or competent FOs.
Finally, your analysis is skewed. because it does not consider where all the successful NFL QBs came from. One might draw many conclusions from your analysis, but one is that you don't have to draft in the 1st round, top-15 especially, to find a franchise QB. What separates the booms and busts? How you support and develop a QB is also critical. Does it really matter who the Skins drafted at QB, or the Jags, or Browns, given what dysfunctional messes they have been? Virtually no QB had chance of success, how do you factor that into stats? Teams consistently reach on QBs out of desperation also. It would be one thing if we were loaded with talent all over our roster and only a QB was missing to contend for SB, but that is NOT this team, not by a LONG shot. We should continue to draft and develop talent, including at QB, and continue targeting QBs in draft we think have franchise-QB potential. This is less glamorous, less immediate gratification than the trading the farm modality all the homers seem to love, but it is the sound approach. So the real question, now that the Rams saved us from ourselves, is what QBs outside the top-4 in the draft would make sense at #19 or in the 2nd round? What QB makes sense later in draft in 5th or 6th round? What 2 QBs should we draft this year early round and late round?[/quote] They traded two 1st round picks, and a 3rd round pick for Mahomes, and he was the 10th pick in the draft not number one. I don't remember anyone on this forum suggesting that we should trade that much for Stafford. |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1276138]Did you see the stat posted earlier. Of the 22 qb's drafted in the 1st round from 2009 to 2016 ZERO are on their original team.
From 2017 on you have: Tribulsky(2017, #2) - DUD Watson (2017,#12)- Star with attitude Mahones (2017#10) - possibly the next GOAT Mayfield (2018,#1) - Mixed Darnold (2018, #3) - DUD Allen (2018, #7) - Mixed but rising Rosen (2018, #10) - BUST Jackson(2018, #32) - Star Murray (2019, #1) - Rising with ? Jones (2019,#6) - Mixed Haskins(2019, #15) - BUST So depending on how you rank them, out of 11 1st round qb's since 2017 you have 2 to 3 elite (Mahones, Jackson, Watson) 2 to 4 mixed but definitely need time to grow (Mayfield, Allen, Jones, Murray) 3 to 4 busts or duds (Darnold, Tribulsky, Haskins, Rosen) Drafting a qb, even in the first round is no guarantee - even with good scouting, evaluation and sound FO choices. Drafting is the solution to ALOT of team issues, but QB talent is best examined on the NFL field of play and if you can get a proven QB it is worth trading for. That said, the level of proven talent available now dropped significantly with Stafford gone[/quote] In the long run I rather josh Allen then Lamar. Lamars star is already dulling, he gets one serious injury to his legs he is fucked. |
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
JMO I'd sign Tyrod Taylor and have TH and KA battle it out in camp for the starting job. I would still sign a QB in the later rounds. I would bring back Steven Montez.
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Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1276143]Stafford is out.
Who do y'all have for your next option (assume the draft is out)? I'll take Fitzgerald on a 1 year deal, with the assumption we keep Heinicke/Allen. 2nd place - A 2nd for Carr (maybe even a 1st, I'll flip flop on this frequently)[/quote] My list is of next possible QBs in rank order: Want: Watson (not going to happen) Dak (doubtful) Carr (probably not available) Don’t want but could live with: Darnold Hurts Bridgewater Ryan Taylor Don’t want under any circumstance: Garopolo Trubisky Winston Mariota Newton Wentz |
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