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[quote=mredskins;893780]I think if we get RG3 alot folks will be happy; we have been down the old vet road time for a new approach.

If you are Miami you just bought a big bag of worry; in regards to PM health[/quote]


Nope ,they just bought the AFC East divison.

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It's actually a pretty badass scenario for Peyton in Miami. He'll face Brady twice a year and play in fantastic weather with young and hungry team.

[QUOTE=Giantone;893783]Nope ,they just bought the AFC East divison.[/QUOTE]

Really Tom Brady may have something to say about that.

You know what would be more awesome then a redskins super bowl if you would leave this board and actually join a Giants board.

If anyone agrees quote me and post the word "this"

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[quote=Giantone;893783]Nope ,they just bought the AFC East divison.[/quote]

Yea cuz the pats didn't just go to the super bowl or anything

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[quote=mredskins;893789]Really Tom Brady may have something to say about that.

You know what would be more awesome then a redskins super bowl if you would leave this board and actually join a Giants board.

If anyone agrees quote me and post the word "this"[/quote]

"this"

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[quote=mredskins;893789]Really

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....not this

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[quote=skinsguy;893775]Around $20 mil a year??? Well, at least know the 'skins can focus on trading up for RGIII.[/quote]

And a $25 + million signing bonus. Haven't confirmed but was told our potential offer would be around 4 years $70-75 million including a signing bonus of around $10 million

[quote=smootsmack;893768]ha![/quote]

15 ?

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Tannehill only has 19 starts? Could be a lot of upside to the kid.

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[quote=Mattyk;893769]Probably double that, right?[/quote]

Absolutely, I would guess that he will get about 50 million guaranteed in the first 3 years of any deal. Structure the contract with however many years you like, 4 -7 years but he knows this is his last contract.

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That is a lot of money. How many teams can afford that and what kind of other free agent upgrades would a team like the Skins realistically be able to afford after committing that amount of cash to Peyton?

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[quote=T.O.Killa;893745]here what the NFL network says.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82777dfb/article/report-redskins-already-out-on-peyton-manning-chase?module=HP11_headline_stack]NFL.com news: Report: Redskins already out on Peyton Manning chase[/url][/quote]

I'm curious now though, why would Peyton's camp eliminate a potential suitor? Even if he doesn't want to sign here for reasons not related to money, why not use us to drive up the price? If you want the most guaranteed money, then you would at least keep little Dannys team on your list, right?

It surprises me how many fans and sports talk ppl in this area continue to talk as though Vinny Cerrato and Snyder were still running this team in regards to this Manning situation. This is why I really don't listen to the local sports station.

Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G.

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;893802]That is a lot of money. How many teams can afford that and what kind of other free agent upgrades would a team like the Skins realistically be able to afford after committing that amount of cash to Peyton?[/quote]

With the rumored 40 million in cap room, the Skins cap guy could structure a deal where PM would only count about 15 million towards the 2012 cap, leaving you 25 million left to spend on others. Now his cap numbers would go much higher in years 2013 and 2014.

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[quote=mredskins;893789]Really Tom Brady may have something to say about that.

You know what would be more awesome then a redskins super bowl if you would leave this board and actually join a Giants board.

If anyone agrees quote me and post the word "this"[/quote]

This,this,this.this,this,this,this,this,this,this,this,and this...

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[quote=CapitalDefense;893806]With the rumored 40 million in cap room, the Skins cap guy could structure a deal where PM would only count about 15 million towards the 2012 cap, leaving you 25 million left to spend on others.[/quote]

But with that size contract, and with it only counting 15 in the first year, wouldn't this end up being one of those contracts that puts us back in cap hell toward the end?

Also, if 25 million enough to bring in a receiver or two, a cb, possible a safety, a lb, and offensive line help.

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[quote=Ruhskins;893804]It surprises me how many fans and sports talk ppl in this area continue to talk as though Vinny Cerrato and Snyder were still running this team in regards to this Manning situation. This is why I really don't listen to the local sports station.

Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G.[/quote]

This.. The media in general loves to throw darts at the Skins..

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honestly, PM is probably worth 20-25mill a year, i'm just not sure that i'd be down with tying soo much money to one guy. I mean, if the skins pay him, chances are he'll play 6 snaps and be out for the year... that's just how it seems to be.

I'd rather get nicks, a RT and carr (ditch hall for savings) then grab some mid level guys (meachem, rachal, etc) with RGIII instead.

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When you think about it Miami really is a good situation for him. Great weather, he already has a place there, they have Marshall, Bush, Bess, add in Wayne and maybe someone like Tamme, and that offense is ready to roll.

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;893808]But with that size contract, and with it only counting 15 in the first year, wouldn't this end up being one of those contracts that puts us back in cap hell toward the end?

Also, if 25 million enough to bring in a receiver or two, a cb, possible a safety, a lb, and offensive line help.[/quote]

Cap Hell is a myth created by "haters" usually pukes or gints fans who get tired of the Redskins signing big named FA's. The Gints just restructured Eli's contract and it saved them about 7 million this year, all they did was push some money into later years on the contract. There are ways around the cap if you have an owner with deep pockets and we do. Of course Shanny is now running the show with roster moves so we are nowhere near as aggressive as in the past.

25 million is plenty to fill all of your needs, the question is will Shanny go on a spending spree or will he continue to build through the draft only adding a free agent here and there?

All I know is we need a QB, this is not the year to get tight with money or draft picks to get one. We need PM or RG3 or we will watch 6-10 again and do all of this again next offseason. I am not sold on any other QB in free agency or the draft.

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If he goes to Miami will the media jump on there owner like they would jump on ours.

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[quote=Mattyk;893814]When you think about it Miami really is a good situation for him. Great weather, he already has a place there, they have Marshall, Bush, Bess, add in Wayne and maybe someone like Tamme, and that offense is ready to roll.[/quote]

Plenty of positives no doubt about it.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;893818]If he goes to Miami will the media jump on there owner like they would jump on ours.[/quote]

No

Miami has not been very good and can't sell out the stadium, they need excitement for that team so they can sell tickets. PM would do that instantly.

Didn't he just buy that team?

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[quote=CapitalDefense;893820]No

Miami has not been very good and can't sell out the stadium, they need excitement for that team so they can sell tickets. PM would do that instantly.

Didn't he just buy that team?[/quote]

He would definitely energize that fan base. He would anywhere basically, but Miami really needs that.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;893818]If he goes to Miami will the media jump on there owner like they would jump on ours.[/quote]

The funny thing is, if the Skins lose out on Manning because of Money it will never be reported. You will only hear Manning wasn't willing to play for Dan Snyder, or because the way McNabb was treated.

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[quote=Mattyk;893821]He would definitely energize that fan base. He would anywhere basically, but Miami really needs that.[/quote]

We need RG3 to energize our fan base..

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If our owner wasn't such a prick to the media we wouldn't be dealing with all this hate.

[QUOTE=tc2deuce;893825]If our owner wasn't such a prick to the media we wouldn't be dealing with all this hate.[/QUOTE]

Honestly does it really bother you? Put up some wins and a playoff run and the media is on the skin's Jock like a broke Hooker in heat!

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[quote=mredskins;893826]honestly does it really bother you? Put up some wins and a playoff run and the media is on the skin's jock like a broke hooker in heat![/quote]

:):laughing2

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Alright jump on me ...

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82777dfb/article/report-redskins-already-out-on-peyton-manning-chase?module=HP11_headline_stack]NFL.com news: Report: Redskins already out on Peyton Manning chase[/url]

Stick in the Domes and expect to lose in the playoffs.

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[quote=Brody81;893823]We need RG3 to energize our fan base..[/quote]

No doubt

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Your Safe, It's been posted already....

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Now oft is saying Manning hasn't ruled out the skins.

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Pft, sorry

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When the Redskins miss out on Manning AND RGIII...

I am going to be PISSED.

...and it's looking like that's exactly what's going to happen at this point... (Browns in trade talks with Rams as we speak apparently).

You can Tannehill/Cousins/Orton me to death... They WILL NOT be "The Guy" we need to get some life back as a franchise... my :twocents:

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Do you spend a great deal of time stressing out and getting angry about events that have not happened and that you have no actual reliable knowledge of.......?

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I hope Manning hurries up and makes his mind up. I cant take much more of this sh*t and its only the first 24 hours.

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Thank god they are out of the running for PM, now they have to patiently wait to get RGIII with the 6th pick, the Browns are bluffing and I would hate to have them give the Rams unnecessary picks.

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[QUOTE=rypper11;893829][url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82777dfb/article/report-redskins-already-out-on-peyton-manning-chase?module=HP11_headline_stack]NFL.com news: Report: Redskins already out on Peyton Manning chase[/url]
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Honestly what I've been thinking all along. Love to have him, but playing his brother twice a year and having them knock each other out on way to SuperBowl each year would definitely not be attractive for him. Miami's situation is hard to beat, agree that's his likely destination barring surprise team. Clearly need to wait and see.

If this falls through, I guess we still can throw the house at RG3. But this already is beginning to feel like the year where we tried to get Cutler - and failed, then tried for Sanchez - and failed, and then sucked with Campbell with a huge let-down all year.

I definitely can't take going through this again and then living with Rex all year long....

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i am so glad we did not end up with sanchez