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Deshaun Watson’s top two choices for trade destinations, per @ArmandoSalguero

* Jets
* Dolphins

(@brgridiron)

And there u have it.

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[QUOTE=Warthog;1275067]Wrong. The WFT has NO interest in him. They could have gone for him before and they didn’t. His time on the Patriots isn’t that impressive. Here is my guess at the WFT QB “wish list” -

1. Stafford trade (big trade, three #1 picks and a premium player, such as Allen or Payne)
2. Watson trade (same as above)
3. Move up in the draft from 19 to the top five with a big trade (offering a couple #1 picks).
4. Stay at 19 and hope they can draft a lower ranked QB and turn him into a Diamond; Heinicke and this draft pick compete for the #1 QB spot in 2021.
5. Resign Heinicke - he’s a great #2 or perhaps even can compete as the #1 versus a draft pick. No brainer!


Heinicke is the wild card. They will absolutely resign him. I think they will try to get him in the weight room and build up his muscles to compensate for his 6’1” size. Remember, he was studying and going to school when they called him up. Probably in shape but not peak NFL-ready. He also needs to work with the QB coach to learn how to protect his body while running. I actually can ‘t wait to see him buffed up and ready to compete in the OTA’s, TC and practice games. He might be the reason Rivera just takes the best QB available and sticks with #19.


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No chance Stafford commands that much. He’s 32 now and has never won anything. Watson yes he’s 25 and has won

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[quote=Warthog;1275067]Wrong. The WFT has NO interest in him. They could have gone for him before and they didn’t. His time on the Patriots isn’t that impressive. Here is my guess at the WFT QB “wish list” -

1. Stafford trade (big trade, three #1 picks and a premium player, such as Allen or Payne)
2. Watson trade (same as above)
3. Move up in the draft from 19 to the top five with a big trade (offering a couple #1 picks).
4. Stay at 19 and hope they can draft a lower ranked QB and turn him into a Diamond; Heinicke and this draft pick compete for the #1 QB spot in 2021.
5. Resign Heinicke - he’s a great #2 or perhaps even can compete as the #1 versus a draft pick. No brainer!


Heinicke is the wild card. They will absolutely resign him. I think they will try to get him in the weight room and build up his muscles to compensate for his 6’1” size. Remember, he was studying and going to school when they called him up. Probably in shape but not peak NFL-ready. He also needs to work with the QB coach to learn how to protect his body while running. I actually can ‘t wait to see him buffed up and ready to compete in the OTA’s, TC and practice games. He might be the reason Rivera just takes the best QB available and sticks with #19.


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No way Stafford commands the same compensation as Watson in a trade. If he's available, he'll come at a much cheaper price.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1275072]No way Stafford commands the same compensation as Watson in a trade. If he's available, he'll come at a much cheaper price.[/QUOTE]


What do you think he’s worth?. What will Detroit take to trade him? He’s just 31 and has at LEAST 5-6 outstanding years ahead of him. I personally would choose Watson over Stafford because of his age, but Detroit knows that he’s valuable.

I hope you’re right. The knock on him is exactly what you say. Never has got them to the top. Is he a Cousin’s type guy who has excellent stats but can’t win the big ones? I think Stafford will command a very high price but if he goes for SUBSTANTIALLY less than Watson, he’ll be worth it.

The NFC East is praying that Rivera doesn’t get Stafford or Watson. That’s the missing piece that has eluded this team for decades. If we get Stafford, add a burner WR in FA, add another excellent TE to compliment Thomas, pick up a top LB FA and draft for the OL for starters or depth, this team will be elite!


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[quote=Warthog;1275067]Wrong. The WFT has NO interest in him. They could have gone for him before and they didn’t. His time on the Patriots isn’t that impressive. [B] Here is my guess at the WFT QB “wish list” -

1. Stafford trade (big trade, three #1 picks and a premium player, such as Allen or Payne)
2. Watson trade (same as above)[/B]
3. Move up in the draft from 19 to the top five with a big trade (offering a couple #1 picks).
4. Stay at 19 and hope they can draft a lower ranked QB and turn him into a Diamond; Heinicke and this draft pick compete for the #1 QB spot in 2021.
5. Resign Heinicke - he’s a great #2 or perhaps even can compete as the #1 versus a draft pick. No brainer!


Heinicke is the wild card. They will absolutely resign him. I think they will try to get him in the weight room and build up his muscles to compensate for his 6’1” size. Remember, he was studying and going to school when they called him up. Probably in shape but not peak NFL-ready. He also needs to work with the QB coach to learn how to protect his body while running. I actually can ‘t wait to see him buffed up and ready to compete in the OTA’s, TC and practice games. He might be the reason Rivera just takes the best QB available and sticks with #19.


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You are overstating Stafford's value by a lot, IMO. And surely Stafford wouldn't be option 1 if Watson could be had for the same price. I happen to think that Stafford may well be our #1 target, but not at the price you suggest. If the Lions refuse to trade him for less than that, he will remain a Lion.

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Stafford: Barring a serious injury, will be highly productive for at least 4 more years, maybe even a couple/few more.

Watson: Barring a serious injury, will be highly productive for 10+ more years.

Even if you assume the talent is even (edge to Watson for me), age separates the compensation drastically.

Note - Estimated years are my expressed written opinions/estimates. Could be wrong on both.

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We got Alex Smith at a similar point in his career for two thirds. Smith won more than Stafford, but Stafford has put up better numbers. The demand is higher right now, with so many teams seemingly in the QB market, so I have little doubt that Stafford would cost more at this time. I've seen several suggestions that the price would be along the lines of a first and a third, and that sounds about right to me. Some folks feel a second and a third would do it, but I think that it would take at least first rounder. Three firsts and a player is really way too much, IMO, and I seriously doubt if even the Lions are thinking along those lines.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1275070]No chance Stafford commands that much. He’s 32 now and has never won anything. Watson yes he’s 25 and has won[/quote]

What has Watson won exactly?

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[QUOTE=MissouriSkin;1275086]What has Watson won exactly?[/QUOTE]


He’s taken his team to the playoffs and won a game atleast

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Now that Watson has given his list of 2 teams he will go to, it’s time to shift the focus on Stafford or Matt Ryan. Of course I’d take Stafford over Ryan but even if we did trade for Ryan, it’s similar to Alex’s situation 2 years ago. Older QB that has 2-3 years left. Ryan is clearly the better passer tho

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1275088]Now that Watson has given his list of 2 teams he will go to, it’s time to shift the focus on Stafford or Matt Ryan. Of course I’d take Stafford over Ryan but even if we did trade for Ryan, it’s similar to Alex’s situation 2 years ago. Older QB that has 2-3 years left. Ryan is clearly the better passer tho[/quote]

The Watson sweepstakes is still wide open, did you not watch the harden trade me drama? Every day that past he had a new team he was ok with going too.

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1275089]The Watson sweepstakes is still wide open, did you not watch the harden trade me drama? Every day that past he had a new team he was ok with going too.[/QUOTE]


He said Brooklyn was his #1 all along tho and he got what he wanted. We also don’t have the ammo to compete with the Jets. They’ll offer Darnold, and their draft basically. The Texans would be fools to turn it down

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Well it looks like Stafford is definitely on the block. But with all the teams interested in him, I think it will take at least 2 firsts at a minimum.

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[QUOTE=Ohioskins;1275098]Well it looks like Stafford is definitely on the block. But with all the teams interested in him, I think it will take at least 2 firsts at a minimum.[/QUOTE]What teams are interested him? I know there are other teams in the qb market but I haven't really seen teams attached to him like Watson.

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SF, NE and Colts at a minimum.