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Campbell definitely did make some mistakes today, however, that's because it was his third start. He's gonna have days like this. I was pissed about the pick down on the goal line. I think if he doesn't get hit, he makes that throw for the td. The problem on that play was Betts trying to pick up the wrong man. That's where this team misses Clinton Portis the most. Clinton would've eaten that guys lunch.

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CP does do a great job of picking up blitzes. Betts was out of position several times today.

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Its games like Jason had today which is why we all wanted him to start this season rather than giving him a fresh start next season. Gets some experiance and stupid plays out of the way. Jason played poorly for my book, but I have absolutley no problems with him at this point. He has played very well overall through three games. I still think we can let him air it out a little bit more off the playaction,especially when we are running so well.

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Another thing about Campbell is that he drops back too far. He needs to take 3-5 step drops and no more. He is taking about 7 step drops, no line can hold that up. Combine that with his windup, it is easy to get to him.

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[quote=hooskins;255022]Another thing about Campbell is that he drops back too far. He needs to take 3-5 step drops and no more. He is taking about 7 step drops, no line can hold that up. Combine that with his windup, it is easy to get to him.[/quote]
isn't the number of step drops pre-determined? i'm pretty sure that amount is part of the play but i could be wrong...

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[quote=soccercycbk;255044]isn't the number of step drops pre-determined? i'm pretty sure that amount is part of the play but i could be wrong...[/quote]
Then the playcalling should be adjusted because it seems like he is dropping back way to far right into the path of the DEs

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I dont think Jason has that many pluses right now. He has a cannon, but he doesn't have much accuracy, plus he does not get the ball off quick enough. Yes I know the O line didnt give him much protection, but there were multiple times that he should have released the ball earlier when he had the oppurtunity to. I'm not saying he's a bad quarterback, I just think he's young and inexpierinced; he should be good by next year.

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[quote=Gmanc711;254967]Its games like Jason had today which is why we all wanted him to start this season rather than giving him a fresh start next season. Gets some experiance and stupid plays out of the way. Jason played poorly for my book, but I have absolutley no problems with him at this point. He has played very well overall through three games. I still think we can let him air it out a little bit more off the playaction,especially when we are running so well.[/quote]Well said, but the fact that he can't complete a short pass worries me. You can't win if your QB isnt even completing 50%, something any guy can do.

In the long run, I think he will iron out that part of his game.

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I think the two biggest negatives you can take away from Campbell today are 1) He didn't adjust well to the blitz. But then you gotta ask yourself, how much is that his fault, and how much is that the Blockers and Rabach for not giving him some more help.

2) He didn't seem like he was going thru his progressions fully. It seemed like Moss and Cooley were his primary targets for most of the day, and he really had trouble completing passes to anybody besides Moss. Moss caught 7 of 9 passes thrown his way. The other receivers: Lloyd, Cooley, and Randle-El caught a total of 6 of 20 combined. Not very good.

I think Campbell was acceptable considering it was his 3rd start. It would have been a tall order for him to get them the W late, although he had several chances. But I think you can also say coaching held him back a bit.

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[quote=soccercycbk;255044]isn't the number of step drops pre-determined? i'm pretty sure that amount is part of the play but i could be wrong...[/quote]

Yes it is. It probably just looks like a further drop because he's so tall and has long legs.

Did anyone else notice his really low crouch under center? You can barely see his head behind the linemen and he's just about on one knee. Hey, if it works for him...let him do it. Maybe it keeps his hammys stretched for when he scrambles.

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[quote=BeastsoftheNFCeast;255105]I dont think Jason has that many pluses right now. He has a cannon, but he doesn't have much accuracy, plus he does not get the ball off quick enough. Yes I know the O line didnt give him much protection, but there were multiple times that he should have released the ball earlier when he had the oppurtunity to. I'm not saying he's a bad quarterback, I just think he's young and inexpierinced; he should be good by next year.[/quote]

No accuracy? Are you even watching? He's VERY accurate. A lot of his imcompletions have been drops by Lloyd, Sellers and Cooley...mostly Cooley.

You're right though, he WILL be good by next year...VERY good.

With some protection, Portis back and a defense that can get him on the field, he could lead the Skins to a lot of success. I hope he stays for a very long time...his whole career. We haven't had a permanent QB forever.

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[quote=Pudge;255239]But then you gotta ask yourself, how much is that his fault, and how much is that [B]the Blockers and Rabach[/B] for not giving him some more help.[/quote]LOL. I like how we've seperated Rabach from the people who actually block.

I think he's an adequate center, but far too often he's standing around after a play.

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[quote=Buster;255491]Yes it is. It probably just looks like a further drop because he's so tall and has long legs.

Did anyone else notice his really low crouch under center? You can barely see his head behind the linemen and he's just about on one knee. Hey, if it works for him...let him do it. Maybe it keeps his hammys stretched for when he scrambles.[/quote]

Post game he said he's doing that because he doesn't want CR to alter his snap that much, but it's something they'll work on together during the off season.

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[quote=Buster;255494]No accuracy? Are you even watching? He's VERY accurate. A lot of his imcompletions have been drops by Lloyd, Sellers and Cooley...mostly Cooley.

You're right though, he WILL be good by next year...VERY good.

With some protection, Portis back and a defense that can get him on the field, he could lead the Skins to a lot of success. I hope he stays for a very long time...his whole career. We haven't had a permanent QB forever.[/quote]I think you are right, but he's got to find a way to move the chains better on 3rd and medium/3rd and short. I'm not sure we can chalk that up to inexpierience. He misses short throws. That's troubling.

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[quote=Pudge;255239]I think the two biggest negatives you can take away from Campbell today are 1) He didn't adjust well to the blitz. But then you gotta ask yourself, how much is that his fault, and how much is that the Blockers and Rabach for not giving him some more help.

[B]2) He didn't seem like he was going thru his progressions fully. It seemed like Moss and Cooley were his primary targets for most of the day, and he really had trouble completing passes to anybody besides Moss. Moss caught 7 of 9 passes thrown his way. The other receivers: Lloyd, Cooley, and Randle-El caught a total of 6 of 20 combined. Not very good.[/B]

I think Campbell was acceptable considering it was his 3rd start. It would have been a tall order for him to get them the W late, although he had several chances. But I think you can also say coaching held him back a bit.[/quote]

Good post. Especially point number 2. I saw him doing some things that young QBs often do - staring down the receiver they intend to throw to. Far too often Campbell just focused in on Moss and failed to hold the safety in the center of the field with his eyes. He has to learn to look off the safety. It's the WR's job to beat the corner, it's the QB's job to beat the safety.

Consequently, because he was staring down receivers, he often didn't move to a 2nd or 3rd read on a play. He'd get fixated on Moss, and wouldn't even realize that Cooley was wide open on the other side of the field.

These are things young QBs often deal with, and are very coachable. That is, of course, if your coaches can focus on what's important and stop bickering back and forth over what the offensive philosophy should be.