Re: McNabb a Redskin! (Part II)
 

[quote=Trample the Elderly;683201]Talked to all of my Dallas fans at work. They thought it was the best move for them that we could've made.[/quote]

Are they in work release? Most Cowboy fans can't find Dallas on a map let alone put together a coherent sentence on football.

The only Cowboys fan I have respect for is that guy who banged that chick out in the restroom of the JerraDome.

Re: McNabb a Redskin! (Part II)
 

[quote=GTripp0012;683212]Well, if he's a great quarterback, I'd imagine that they'd be doing it to get a great quarterback at a second round price tag.

Or late first, in the case of the Ravens.[/quote]

Ravens and Dolphins have already pinned their current quarterbacks as Henne and Flacco. Your suggestion that the Ravens and Dolphins should be interested in McNabb makes no sense, as is your argument that it's indicative of McNabb's value as a quarterback, as shown by your lack of response to the mention of Kurt Warner, Drew Brees, and Brett Favre.

Re: McNabb a Redskin! (Part II)
 

[quote=GTripp0012;683200]Kyle Orton, Chad Henne, Joe Flacco, Alex Smith, Matt Leinart, whatever's going on in Minnesota these days.

Mild interest in McNabb at best from those organizations.[/quote]
Load of economic counterincetives, not lack of ability is why they didn't sell the farm for him.
Oh right, Bretto Favrah the system QB who made that O explode is simply not going to come back. A 99% success rate with quick slants is better than the 60% of JC17
Alex Smith, spread system QB extrodinaire and huge investment given a second chance.
Henne, don't know.
Orton, scheme-fit for McDaniels' ball-control Patriot-lite offense.
Arizona? Screw Arizona. Signing D. Anderson is more than enough to show that they can't really tell a good QB from a bad one.

Then there's McNabb's PERSONAL incentive. He WANTED to be here and wasn't going to have it any other way.

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[quote=wilsowilso;683214]He can't be any worse than Jason Taylor?

Can he?[/quote]Taylor started 8 games, so that's where the bar is set.

Shanahan>Blache

Re: McNabb a Redskin! (Part II)
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;683219]Load of economic counterincetives, not lack of ability is why they didn't sell the farm for him.
Oh right, Bretto Favrah the system QB who made that O explode is simply not going to come back. Still 99% success rate with quick slants is better than the 60% of JC17
Alex Smith, spread system QB extrodinaire and huge investment given a second chance.
Henne, don't know.
Orton, scheme-fit for McDaniels' ball-control Patriot-lite offense.
Arizona? Screw Arizona. Signing D. Anderson is more than enough to show that they can't really tell a good QB from a bad one.

Then there's McNabb's PERSONAL incentive. He WANTED to be here and wasn't going to have it any other way.[/quote]Or 57% from McNabb, you know. Love me some Favre watch.

The market did not really react to McNabb being available, at least using the Cutler trade as a comparable. It's probably fallacious to suggest that Cutler will have a better career than McNabb, we simply don't know at this point, but at his age, he only had 3 or 4 suitors. And we unquestionably had the best QB of us Oakland and Buffalo, no matter how much lobster Gradkowski bought for you on your date last night.

Re: McNabb a Redskin! (Part II)
 

[quote=Redskins_P;683205]This is the way I see the trade....

Campbell + Zorn < McNabb + Shanahan[/quote]

Simple yet effective post

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[quote=GTripp0012;683222]Or 57% from McNabb, you know. Love me some Favre watch.

The market did not really react to McNabb being available, at least using the Cutler trade as a comparable. It's probably fallacious to suggest that Cutler will have a better career than McNabb, we simply don't know at this point, but at his age, he only had 3 or 4 suitors. And we unquestionably had the best QB of us Oakland and Buffalo, no matter how much lobster Gradkowski bought for you on your date last night.[/quote]

And how many teams were interested in Jay Cutler? Or are you just making things up now.

Re: McNabb a Redskin! (Part II)
 

[quote=Audi;683217]Ravens and Dolphins have already pinned their current quarterbacks as Henne and Flacco. Your suggestion that the Ravens and Dolphins should be interested in McNabb makes no sense, as is your argument that it's indicative of McNabb's value as a quarterback, as shown by your lack of response to the mention of Kurt Warner, Drew Brees, and Brett Favre.[/quote]If the last two years have taught me anything, it's that a current QB is only a current QB until the second a better option becomes available. Miami and Baltimore have decided that they are better off with Henne and Flacco respectively, than either would be with McNabb. I neither agree or disagree with their conclusion, but this is how the sound organizations reacted to McNabb being available: "second round pick? ttyl"

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[quote=Audi;683224]And how many teams were interested in Jay Cutler? Or are you just making things up now.[/quote]5 that I know of.

Re: McNabb a Redskin! (Part II)
 

I can't get over the idea of rooting for a guy that I have pulled against for the last 10 years. I have legitimate concerns about his short to intermediate accuracy, but I think that Shanahan's offense could be a very good fit, since it seems to favor those with a big arm, which McNabb has.

As much as I have previously disliked McNabb, i think i'm starting to warm to this considering he didn't pull a Favre and force his way out of town and he's done nothing but win with the Eagles. Assuming he's got 3-4 yrs in the tank, this could be a huge get for the Skins. But it's going to be weird seeing him in burgundy and gold.

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[quote=SmootSmack;683223]Simple yet effective post[/quote]Draft picks retained: not relevant.

Re: McNabb a Redskin! (Part II)
 

[quote=GTripp0012;683226]If the last two years have taught me anything, it's that a current QB is only a current QB until the second a better option becomes available. Miami and Baltimore have decided that they are better off with Henne and Flacco respectively, than either would be with McNabb. I neither agree or disagree with their conclusion, but this is how the sound organizations reacted to McNabb being available: "second round pick? ttyl"[/quote]

That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about your claim that because teams such as Miami and Baltimore weren't interested in acquiring Donovan McNabb, that it is indicative of his value as a quarterback.

Why weren't more teams, particularly "winning organizations", as you put it, interested in Drew Brees, Brett Favre, and Kurt Warner?

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I just e-mailed this link to the Eagles fan who claims they'll follow McNabb to Washington and has given up on Philly. :)

[url=http://shop.redskins.com/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductDetailIndexName=CategoryDetail_500&CategoryID=500&ProductID=41177]Washington Redskins[/url]

Re: McNabb a Redskin! (Part II)
 

[quote=GTripp0012;683222]Or 57% from McNabb, you know. Love me some Favre watch.

The market did not really react to McNabb being available, at least using the Cutler trade as a comparable. It's probably fallacious to suggest that Cutler will have a better career than McNabb, we simply don't know at this point, but at his age, he only had 3 or 4 suitors. And we unquestionably had the best QB of us Oakland and Buffalo, no matter how much lobster Gradkowski bought for you on your date last night.[/quote]
In a playcalling syntax which overemphasized the pass and emphasized the big play.
But Shanahan's system requires big plays to complement a good-to-elite running game and shorter passing game so that the O becomes incredibly difficult to scheme against O. Henne, Orton, etc are not big play QBs. Smith is spread or bust. JC is inconsistent at best. McNabb is a consistent big-play QB. Philly lived and died by the big play, but why did they emphasize it in the first place when the WCO was historically more ball control oriented? Because their QB is better suited for that.

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[quote=GTripp0012;683227]5 that I know of.[/quote]

So 5 for Jay Cutler and 4 for Donovan McNabb is a huge difference in market reaction?