Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

The odds of a first round QB pick--especially a high one--paying off are exceptionally low.

Are there ones that work? Obviously. However, the odds of a major bust and disaster are about as bad as it gets in the NFL.

Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

[quote=Mattyk72;234032]I've been all over the board about the QB talk... do I need to respond to every QB thread? :)

Hey newbie, welcome to the board, but I suggest you take a look around before starting so many new threads. A lot of this has already been discussed and the Warpath Gods don't appreciate talking about the same things over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again.[/quote]
We don't three names Brunell, Ramsey, Arington over and over and over and over!

Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

1) Bank on Brady Quinn being more like Trent Dilfer than Tom Brady
2) He's a product of his environment. Once drafted, his GQ looks will only get him the herp from Paris Hilton (ask Matt Leinart).
3) The Skins have Jason Campbell, we don't need more knucklehead young QBs in a Gibbs system, who relies on washed up QBs to win Super Bowls (Theismann, Williams, Rypien).
4) n00bie training with TAFKAS starts in 20 minutes. don't be late.

Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

No way!

Get a quality "D" or "O" lineman.

Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

Easy answer.

NO.

Quinn reminds me a lot of Rick Mirer and not just because of the Irish uniform.

He looks like a guy who can handle college defenses but not pro ones. He got destroyed by a good Michigan defense and doesn't look good late in games. Mirer could run better than Quinn though. So can Campbell.


We'd be wasting 3 years of developing Campbell and set the team back about that long if he just abandoned him.

We have better positions to address...like CB, or any defensive position.

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[QUOTE=Buster;234332]Easy answer. NO.

We'd be wasting 3 years of developing Campbell and set the team back about that long if he just abandoned him. [/quote]

True, we've made our bed with these qb's, we have to lie with them.

[quote]We have better positions to address...like CB, or any defensive position.[/QUOTE]

ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY!!!! Other teams are always hopped up to trade up for a quality qb / rb / wr. We could easily trade down for top notch quality players that fill our needs.

I disagree with everyone about Quinn being a poor qb in the NFL. Sure if you took him right out now, and placed him with a team, he'd suck. But who wouldn't? Quinn will be a good NFL qb because he adapts. Charlie Weiss is a great coach and Quinn will be ready because of him.I don't beleive ANY college qb is ever ready for the NFL,they have to sit for a year to understand the respective system. Even Peyton threw like 26 ints in his first year and he was the closest to ever being NFL ready.

Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

[quote=jsarno;234367]True, we've made our bed with these qb's, we have to lie with them.



ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY!!!! Other teams are always hopped up to trade up for a quality qb / rb / wr. We could easily trade down for top notch quality players that fill our needs.

I disagree with everyone about Quinn being a poor qb in the NFL. Sure if you took him right out now, and placed him with a team, he'd suck. But who wouldn't? Quinn will be a good NFL qb because he adapts. Charlie Weiss is a great coach and Quinn will be ready because of him.I don't beleive ANY college qb is ever ready for the NFL,they have to sit for a year to understand the respective system. Even Peyton threw like 26 ints in his first year and he was the closest to ever being NFL ready.[/quote]

don't forget about roethlisberger ... although their gameplan was extrememly conservative, he looked ready for the NFL when he went
15-1 (or something like that) in his first 16 games.

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I also think Quinn will be a very good pro with a quick learning curve because of the pro stlye offense he runs. A lot of good college QBs who are high draft picks probably struggle at first because they are running a college style (lots of opinions, all shotgun formations, etc) so it takes them longer to adjust.

Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

in the right offense Quinn could thrive,in the wrong offense he could look like heath shuler. its pretty simple. not great arm strength, but lots of moxie, and gets the ball out fast

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Why do they need another young QB to ride the pine? If anything they need an established veteran that can win now since they seem to have JC on a 5 year plan.

Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

[QUOTE=GhettoDogAllStars;234378]don't forget about roethlisberger ... although their gameplan was extrememly conservative, he looked ready for the NFL when he went
15-1 (or something like that) in his first 16 games.[/QUOTE]

His team was the one who brought him there...running game was run run, then run some more, and the D was great. But I do understand your point. Istill beleive Roethlisberger was and is over rated, but he did a good job of shutting me up last year. (not so much this year)

Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

Absolutely not. He won't be available when we draft anyway. I see our first priority being going after a freakish DE and a monster DT to shore up the D-line. We'll probably use free agency to add depth to the secondary and get a good kicker. I think the O-line is ok, but wouldn't hurt to add depth in the later rounds.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;234396]Absolutely not. He won't be available when we draft anyway. I see our first priority being going after a freakish DE and a monster DT to shore up the D-line. We'll probably use free agency to add depth to the secondary and get a good kicker. I think the O-line is ok, but wouldn't hurt to add depth in the later rounds.[/QUOTE]

That is optimistic thinking we won't continue our losing ways. Not that there is anything wrong with that, just optimistic.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;234396]I see our first priority being going after a freakish DE and a monster DT to shore up the D-line. [/quote]

Do you have your mind on anyone specific or are freaks and monsters just always available in the draft?

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[quote=Mattyk72;234414]Do you have your mind on anyone specific or are freaks and monsters just always available in the draft?[/quote]

Well, they're all pretty much freaks of nature if you ask me, but how about a Quentin Moses if he's available (doubt it), or a Lamar Woodley. Then for tackle perhaps a Marcus Thomas or Amobi Okoye.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;234414]Do you have your mind on anyone specific or are freaks and monsters just always available in the draft?[/QUOTE]

Didn't you know? The NFL is now recognizing the university of austria for the draft.

Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

Austria? Put another shrimp on the barbie!

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[quote=BDBohnzie;234434]Austria? Put another shrimp on the barbie![/quote]

You may be thinking of Australia.lol

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[QUOTE=BDBohnzie;234434]Austria? Put another shrimp on the barbie![/QUOTE]

That would be Australia...Austria is the land of Ahnold.

Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

Brady Quinn ... Questions I would ask to make that decision under the current Redskins Front Office and coaching staff -

1. Can he hold a clipboard well?
2. Does he look good sitting on the bench for several years?
3. How much would these special talents cost the Redsskins?

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I guess my Dumb & Dumber reference was too subtle...what about this one:

"...Uh, what's the Soup de Jour?"
"It's the soup of the day."
"Mmmm. That sounds good. I'll have that."

Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

[quote=That Guy;234154]he's got football speed, but his last timed 40s were in the 4.55 range.

and you don't need to add hail from mcusa on every damned post. it's just annoying.[/quote] Thanks for the tip on my closing. Hey that guy, I would say something sarcastic, but I won't. I'll take your constructive criticism in stride cause God knows I don't want to annoy YOU! HAIL from MCUSA!

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Or any other members of The Warpath for that matter. thanks again.

Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

[quote=That Guy;234154]he's got football speed, but his last timed 40s were in the 4.55 range.

and you don't need to add hail from mcusa on every damned post. it's just annoying.[/quote]

Picky, picky, who peed in your cornflakes this morning?

Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

[quote=BDBohnzie;234502]I guess my Dumb & Dumber reference was too subtle...what about this one:

"...Uh, what's the Soup de Jour?"
"It's the soup of the day."
"Mmmm. That sounds good. I'll have that."[/quote]

HAHAHA. My bro and I are always pulling that one out. We also do the quotes from the Predator. He'll like whisper, "Over here..." and I'll say, "Anytime..." like when the Predator is seeing in his infrared vision and he hears that stuff.

Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

But seriously, everyone is blowing loads over Brady Quinn this year. Why is he the BEST QB the draft has seen in years all of a sudden?

Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

[quote=BDBohnzie;234434]Austria? Put another shrimp on the barbie![/quote]


I got it, BDB.

Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;234683]Picky, picky, who peed in your cornflakes this morning?[/quote]

it was probably me. sometimes it's hard to tell though.


and quinn isn't the best qb in years, but he's about where leinart is, only without a vince young to ruin his draft stock.


and moses does look good, and with 4-6 wins, with underclassmen declaring (which they probably will), he'll be there around 15. gaines adams (DE) (~8) and quinn pitcock (DT) (~10) are rated above him though. ranks assume 4 underclassmen and no change from now until the draft (which iss a very VERY bad assumption).

Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

Are You Retarded Dude?

Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;234383]I also think Quinn will be a very good pro with a quick learning curve because of the pro stlye offense he runs. A lot of good college QBs who are high draft picks probably struggle at first because they are running a college style (lots of opinions, all shotgun formations, etc) so it takes them longer to adjust.[/quote]

I agree. Quinn might be as NFL ready as any guy coming out of college in recent years because of playing for Weis. He has the size, arm, brain and mobility and he has been playing in an NFL offense the past two seasons. He'll be good and might be great.

Still he wont end up in Washington...we have other needs and we invested too much in Campbell to not atleast give him a whirl.

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[quote=Crat92;234680]Or any other members of The Warpath for that matter. thanks again.[/quote]
you finally did it! or did you simply forget?

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and tmc, what about " i aint got time to bleed"

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[QUOTE=dmek25;234817]you finally did it! or did you simply forget?[/QUOTE]

my money is on he forgot

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we need to see campbell play this year. i was hoping gibbs would make the move to him this week. gibbs needs to see the light and realize that we are 2-5 and are in the nfc east we are not going 9-0 or 8-1 the rest of the way. we need him to start asap so we know what we have in him and to get jump on next year so we dont have to struggle out of the gate next year. come on joe quit be so loyal to a bum QB this year if i remeber right ramsey was the starter last year and lost it when he went for series in the opener last year and never got his job back.

Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

[QUOTE=BDBohnzie;234502]I guess my Dumb & Dumber reference was too subtle...what about this one:

"...Uh, what's the Soup de Jour?"
"It's the soup of the day."
"Mmmm. That sounds good. I'll have that."[/QUOTE]

Slow down...

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;234719]But seriously, everyone is blowing loads over Brady Quinn this year. Why is he the BEST QB the draft has seen in years all of a sudden?[/quote]

he has been effectively running Charlie(sp) Weiss' Offensive system and I think if you can do that effectively, like he has been, it could be worth possibly "blowing a load" over. lol.....and im a big ND fan so, that doesnt help my postion on Quinn....we wont get him but, as long as he doesnt end up in our Div. its all good....

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Theismann was the best qb in the last 20 yrs. If we had joe our record would be a whole lot better.

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[quote=dmek25;234817]you finally did it! or did you simply forget?[/quote]
No I didn't forget, I'm just tryin' to keep the peace! I'm not the reason we suck right now!

Re: Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;234719]But seriously, everyone is blowing loads over Brady Quinn this year. Why is he the BEST QB the draft has seen in years all of a sudden?[/quote]The UCLA game. He got his ass kicked all day, pretty much every play, and faced with insurmountable pressure and odds witha minute to go, drove his offense 80 yards in 3 plays and only 35 seconds.

Quinn is a 4 year starter at a top program who plays a difficult schedule every season and he has the college production to make stats people drool and makes the scouts oggle over his sexy footwork and outstanding pocket presence and intangibles. Not to mention he would be a good fit in any NFL offense.

I don't think he should get the Heisman because Troy Smith is having a better year, but it wouldn't be farfetched to say that Brady Quinn is the best player in college football.

He's not going to be the greatest NFL QB ever, but he will be a franchise QB for someone.

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i may be wrong. but, i thought in the trade for duckett we have to trade our first round pick to denver since we will have a worse record. i'd rather see campell play before thinking about drafting another quarterback anyway.