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[quote=CRedskinsRule;548908]Where does JC say that? Heck the link doesn't even mention an unnamed source.[/quote]

Right on! I think this rumor is a bunch of crap. Wyche has fallen for a smokescreen and has built up an entire house of cards regarding the Redskins and Sanchez. JLC then repeated what Wyche falsely said.

JC is not quoted in the story. A source is not given. And JC didn't whine through the whole Cutler drama, but now he's uncharacteristically making demands BEFORE Sanchez is even drafted? It just doesn't sound like JC.

I put as much credence in this story as I do the story, "The Redskins have signed Santa Claus to play defensive back."

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If we trade up to get Sanchez are we going to here that we were set up and could have picked him at 13?

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[quote=GusFrerotte;548983]Actually rethinking that it might bode well for 2009, as JC could get totally pissed and do great and take off after the season ends telling Snyder where he can stick his new contract offer. Snyder might have no choice but to deal for McCoy or Bradford then.[/quote]

Sorry GUSFREROTTE this situation is F**K Up. The front office better trade Campbell now because they have showed him he is not their Guy. Jim Zorn is a puppet coach who has no say in what QB he wants running his system. Sndyer wants his Sanchez and as we know he will do whatever it takes to get Sanchez. This means give up picks, players, and cash. Who any the world really thought we would land Albert Hanyesworth in free agencency. Of course we make him the highest paid defensive player. This sh*it has got me so hot over trying to move up to get a QB we dont need. We are screwed this season. I smell 6-10 with a rookie QB in the NFC BEAST....

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[quote=SouperMeister;548989]Snyderatto has burned this bridge beyond repair in my opinion. I'm beginning to believe that Zorn might be building Campbell up to his face but tearing him down to the FO. My gut instinct with the Zorn hire was that the FO must give Campbell at least 2 years to assimilate yet another offensive system, yet it appears that in typical Snyder fashion, we are going to change up at the most important position on the team. I was convinced that Campbell would be our QB for 10 years, but nothing is ever a given with the instability this owner brings to the franchise. I will be completely disgusted if we mortgage yet more draft picks to select Sanchez.[/quote]

Well said my friend. Mr. Synder is back to knee jerk reactions. If we trade up what is it going to cost our team? We have needs at SLB,DE,O-line. We have a total of 5 draft picks, what do we have to move up? Ok we give our entire draft for a spot to take Sanchez. LOL. Its a wonder the the Redskins owner is a nation wide punch line. Mr Money Bags (Synder) says he wants to win a Super Bowl but he doesn't listen to football people. Go get your golden boy QB from USC and see what this team does this season. I smell last in our division. This Sucks...

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[quote=skins89moss;548997]Sorry GUSFREROTTE this situation is F**K Up. The front office better trade Campbell now because they have showed him he is not their Guy. Jim Zorn is a puppet coach who has no say in what QB he wants running his system. Sndyer wants his Sanchez and as we know he will do whatever it takes to get Sanchez. This means give up picks, players, and cash. Who any the world really thought we would land Albert Hanyesworth in free agencency. Of course we make him the highest paid defensive player. This sh*it has got me so hot over trying to move up to get a QB we dont need. We are screwed this season. I smell 6-10 with a rookie QB in the NFC BEAST....[/quote]

I am just thinking about all the possibilities here. The scenario about JC having a great season is definitely far fetched at this point, but the only possible positive that could come from this is that we pass on Sanchez, but JC gets pissed off and develops a I will show him(Snyder) attitude and we might eeck into the playoffs. In the long term this is going to suck, regardless of whether we get Sanchez or not.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;548994]If we trade up to get Sanchez are we going to here that we were set up and could have picked him at 13?[/quote]

Why do we really need or want to move up in this years draft. Why risk paying so much money to a QB that had only 1 full year as a stater at USC.
I like Sanchez as a person but our team doesn't and cant afford to waste a high draft pick on a QB when you have a decent QB in Campbell. When you have only 5 picks you better get it right or our team is not much better than last season. We are paying for giving up picks the last few years for free agents that have not worked out... Good Job front office...

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That's true, Lotus. Also, Jason could have simply responded to a "If they draft a QB would you ask for a trade?" question.

Okay, my five minutes of quasi-panic are over. I'm back to "draft for immediate need" mindset now. I actually think we'll try to trade down and secure 2 lineman (OT and DE) and a linebacker by the end of the 3rd round. If we stay at 13, I think we'll grab a USC LBer.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;548975]This doesn't make sense to me? I understand that JC would want a trade. He'd be wasting his time if he didn't. This is a business.

Here's my questions. If we do get Sanchez then who starts? You'll have two guys who haven't thrown a snap in a REAL game and Collins. Who wins? If you mortgage your future for a pick then he has to start right? What happens when he does? You're going to start a guy you just drafted over two guys who already know the system, one of which rallied the team to the play-offs by beating Chicago, NY, and Dallas?

Danny boy, beware of the Cult of Colt![/quote]

If they pull off a move for Sanchez, he's going to start. I don't think that's even a question.

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[quote=Lotus;548993]Right on! I think this rumor is a bunch of crap. Wyche has fallen for a smokescreen and has built up an entire house of cards regarding the Redskins and Sanchez. JLC then repeated what Wyche falsely said.

JC is not quoted in the story. A source is not given. And JC didn't whine through the whole Cutler drama, but now he's uncharacteristically making demands BEFORE Sanchez is even drafted? It just doesn't sound like JC.

I put as much credence in this story as I do the story, "The Redskins have signed Santa Claus to play defensive back."[/quote]


People thought the Cutler trade crap was a bunch of BS also!!!! Do you think with all of this possible Sanchez talk that JC is happy right after the the Cutler affair? It is quite obvious now that the FO does not think JC is the franchise guy and might as well use him as trade bait somehow. JC isn't dumb and knows what it all means. I give the story credence just based on the common sense of it all. JC has been slapped in the face twice in the span of a month.

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JC leaving DC would make it a great weekend! I am so tired of his lackluster play.

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I'm personally tired of people focusing solely on the QB and non of whats going on around him (like no one being able to pass block)

Unless we draft Sanchez and then trade Campbell for a first (obviously wont happen) or high 2nd, I will not be happy.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;549014]People thought the Cutler trade crap was a bunch of BS also!!!! Do you think with all of this possible Sanchez talk that JC is happy right after the the Cutler affair? It is quite obvious now that the FO does not think JC is the franchise guy and might as well use him as trade bait somehow. JC isn't dumb and knows what it all means. I give the story credence just based on the common sense of it all. JC has been slapped in the face twice in the span of a month.[/quote]

I still think the Cutler trade crap may have been just crap. A news story ran that we offered the farm for Cutler [B]without any evidence[/B] and then everyone else repeated the same unverified story. Now for some people that story has become the gospel truth because the story has been repeated so many times, despite the fact that no one knows what was discussed outside of the people in the Denver and Washington front offices. I'm not saying I know the truth about what happened - I don't - but I also don't trust rumors no matter how many times they are repeated.

This story about JC demanding a trade is different from the Cutler crap, anyway. This story about JC demanding a trade is wading through so much b.s. that it had better wear its tall boots. This story tells me more about Wyche's desperation for a draft-week story than it tells me anything about JC or the Redskins.

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[quote=redskins1974;549016]JC leaving DC would make it a great weekend! I am so tired of his lackluster play.[/quote]

Oh you mean like Jeff George, Shane Matthews, Tony Banks, John Friez, Pat Ramsey, Danny Wuerfel, etc....

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[quote=redskins1974;549016]JC leaving DC would make it a great weekend! I am so tired of his lackluster play.[/quote]


Be careful what you wish for!!!!!!!!! I am not really sold on JC being our next true franchise guy, but I know he is a good enough QB to at least keep him around to get his final grade so to speak. Sanchez only had been the man for only one season in USC. Pete Carroll even said he wasn't ready for the NFL. A Brennan and Sanchez mix would possibly relive 1994-5 with Schuler and Frerotte. Good ole Gus gave it his best, but it wasn't enough. What happens if Brennan isn't the guy either? Sure he has most of the NCAA passing records, but they were padded stats with the weak ass whack jobs Hawaii played. Shoot, I could probably get a team of local ex jocks around my area together and post at least a 11-1 record playing a Hawaii schedule. As for Sanchez, he was surrounded by a totally stacked team playing in a weak ass conference himself. Also USC doesn't have a good rep for QB play in the NFL for the longest time. Why is that? When you are a QB on a team totally stacked with talent, even an average QB looks damn good!!!!! ALso keeping the fossil Collins around isn't cool either unless you are prepared to make him the starter!!!! IS that what you want?

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[quote=Lotus;549021]I still think the Cutler trade crap may have been just crap. A news story ran that we offered the farm for Cutler [B]without any evidence[/B] and then everyone else repeated the same unverified story. Now for some people that story has become the gospel truth because the story has been repeated so many times, despite the fact that no one knows what was discussed outside of the people in the Denver and Washington front offices. I'm not saying I know the truth about what happened - I don't - but I also don't trust rumors no matter how many times they are repeated.

This story about JC demanding a trade is different from the Cutler crap, anyway. This story about JC demanding a trade is wading through so much b.s. that it had better wear its tall boots. This story tells me more about Wyche's desperation for a draft-week story than it tells me anything about JC or the Redskins.[/quote]


This is what has me thinking that a lot of this is b.s. Every story we read is just rehashing what they have heard/read from someone else who doesnt even have credible sources.

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I hope this whole thing is an elaborate hoax to get a team near us to draft Sanchez instead of Oher or Orakapo... Does anyone think that maybe vinnie asked JC to demand a trade to make it seem more substantial?

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What I'm most dismayed about is how this time last year Vinny was named to the Executive VP role, and we were all saying finally we can pin the success/failure of the team on him because he has final say-so.

Clearly that is not the case, and Dan Snyder is back to getting his hands very deep into football operations.

This sucks.

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[quote=724Skinsfan;549010] I'm back to "draft for immediate need" mindset now. I actually think we'll try to trade down and secure 2 lineman (OT and DE) and a linebacker by the end of the 3rd round.[/quote]

I would be so happy if this happens. It's the best case scenario and the smartest thing the front office could do.

Therefore. "Welcome to the team Mr. Sanchez!"

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[quote=GusFrerotte;549023]Be careful what you wish for!!!!!!!!! I am not really sold on JC being our next true franchise guy, but I know he is a good enough QB to at least keep him around to get his final grade so to speak. Sanchez only had been the man for only one season in USC. Pete Carroll even said he wasn't ready for the NFL. A Brennan and Sanchez mix would possibly relive 1994-5 with Schuler and Frerotte. Good ole Gus gave it his best, but it wasn't enough. What happens if Brennan isn't the guy either? Sure he has most of the NCAA passing records, but they were padded stats with the weak ass whack jobs Hawaii played. Shoot, I could probably get a team of local ex jocks around my area together and post at least a 11-1 record playing a Hawaii schedule. As for Sanchez, he was surrounded by a totally stacked team playing in a weak ass conference himself. Also USC doesn't have a good rep for QB play in the NFL for the longest time. Why is that? When you are a QB on a team totally stacked with talent, even an average QB looks damn good!!!!! ALso keeping the fossil Collins around isn't cool either unless you are prepared to make him the starter!!!! IS that what you want?[/quote]

Another Gus mention... unbelievable.

Are you related to him or something? I don't get the fascination.

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[quote=GreekSkin;549025]This is what has me thinking that a lot of this is b.s. Every story we read is just rehashing what they have heard/read from someone else who doesnt even have credible sources.[/quote]


Not to mention, when have the Skins ever drafted one of "Snyder's guys"? This isn't the first year that it's been reported that Snyder wants a particular player. I can't think of one player that was drafted because of Danny's desire for him.

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I'm kinda supprised at most of you. If I knew how to work a search button on here I'd find the thread where everyone is bashing JC saying he sucks, has a slow throwing motion, can only throw intermediate passes, throws too hard for short routes, is not accurate on the long ball, can't read defenses. Am I bashing him no not really but I do believe some of these issues. I for one thought Zorn would be able to fix some of the problems, perhaps Zorn has figured out JC will either not change cause of habit or can't change with out ruining some of his effectiveness.

Where are all the Colt fans? I think I only saw one Colt fan on here rallying for the cause. lol.

I agree there are some bigger issues then JC like the OL for protection. but no matter how much protection you give him, if he can't read a defense and audible then nothing will change with a decent OL. Oh, I'll agree he played lights out for 8 games. I'm not knocking him. I'm just wondering where all the JC bashers are?

As for Sanchez. It's not rocket science that JC is in his last yr. If there is a possibility to upgrade a team should do it atleast a yr prior to letting said current QB go cause the new one will have to learn the speed of the game and play calls. I honestly don't know why JC is throwing a fit. Stay with the team, Play lights out, show the Skins they need to resign him, and ask for more money this time. If you lose your possition to a one season, 16 game experienced Rookie then maybe there are serious problems.

How sweet it would be to have JC, Sanchez, and Colt. Perhaps not in that order. JC knows he would get the start. Sanchez does not even have the play book. He has to learn that first and then get on the field for experience, and then learn the speed of the game.

Also, I'm not sure why people are knocking Sanchez unless it's simply due to having to give up so much. Sanchez played in a pro style WCO in college. He can make all the throws. He is accurate. He can scramble, He throws the ball prior to his WR make their breaks (which if I'm accurate some said JC could not do. He seemed to throw the ball when the WR got to his mark on the field which usually resulted in a ball behind the WR) Sanchez hits his WR in stride. His only knock is he lacks experience. He played one season...16 games.

I have said in other threads....I'm not for moving up and getting him. I'm for dropping back and getting extra picks as long as we have a trade partner. I bet we don't. I believe we need OL, LB, CB, DE, WR, and RB. I'm happy with JC for this yr and see how he does with a better OL. but ....if they get Sanchez, so be it. I'll understand. I don't like mortgaging our future or losing picks to get him but if he is honestly better then JC then good get him. The QB's of this era need to get thicker skin. Buck up and let your play be your mouth. Stop being babies and play. There are 32 teams in the NFL and not everyone can be a starter. JC if you feel snubed then go elsewhere and try to take the job from someone else unless of course your lucky enough to go to a team that has no one.

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[quote=SBXVII;549036]If I knew how to work a search button on here[/quote]

Stop right there...

Is it really that hard??

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[quote=GreekSkin;549019]I'm personally tired of people focusing solely on the QB and non of whats going on around him (like no one being able to pass block)

Unless we draft Sanchez and then trade Campbell for a first (obviously wont happen) or high 2nd, I will not be happy.[/quote]


Hopefully the other guys are right and the Sanchez crap is just an orchestrated psy ops to keep other teams from guessing on how we really want. Getting rid of JC at this juncture would be a huge mistake that could end up being as disasterous as Schuler being a bust back in 1994.

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[quote=GreekSkin;549019]I'm personally tired of people focusing solely on the QB and non of whats going on around him (like no one being able to pass block)

Unless we draft Sanchez and then trade Campbell for a first (obviously wont happen) or high 2nd, I will not be happy.[/quote]


Don't be happy. good for you. for what ever reason it seems the coach's are content with who we have now and the talent level. Maybe they think it was all JC or maybe they think it was simple injuries and are hoping it doesn't happen again. The team did play lights out for 8 games. We still have a OL we picked up last yr who hopefully has been working to get better and if we pick a late round OL for Buges to work with so be it.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;549023]Be careful what you wish for!!!!!!!!! I am not really sold on JC being our next true franchise guy, but I know he is a good enough QB to at least keep him around to get his final grade so to speak. Sanchez only had been the man for only one season in USC. Pete Carroll even said he wasn't ready for the NFL. A Brennan and Sanchez mix would possibly relive 1994-5 with Schuler and Frerotte. Good ole Gus gave it his best, but it wasn't enough. What happens if Brennan isn't the guy either? Sure he has most of the NCAA passing records, but they were padded stats with the weak ass whack jobs Hawaii played. Shoot, I could probably get a team of local ex jocks around my area together and post at least a 11-1 record playing a Hawaii schedule. As for Sanchez, he was surrounded by a totally stacked team playing in a weak ass conference himself. Also USC doesn't have a good rep for QB play in the NFL for the longest time. Why is that? When you are a QB on a team totally stacked with talent, even an average QB looks damn good!!!!! ALso keeping the fossil Collins around isn't cool either unless you are prepared to make him the starter!!!! IS that what you want?[/quote]


Well, that fossil Collins took us to the playoffs a couple of years ago. I believe we were 5-7 with JC and Collins ran the table (4-0) to finish 9-7.

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[quote=Schneed10;549027]What I'm most dismayed about is how this time last year Vinny was named to the Executive VP role, and we were all saying finally we can pin the success/failure of the team on him because he has final say-so.

Clearly that is not the case, and Dan Snyder is back to getting his hands very deep into football operations.

This sucks.[/quote]

Can't have it two ways. Either your happy the team makes no moves in the off season and utilizes the draft or your happy with the DS and his wild moves in the off season. Although I liked having picks in the draft Fantasy Fooball is fun to watch also.

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[quote=Mattyk72;549037]Stop right there...

Is it really that hard??[/quote]


Well apparently it is. On my screen I have no little box that say [B]search:[/B]

and while looking throught the top section I could not find it either. So, yes I'm an idiot. Mark if down. have a good laugh. LOL. enjoy. ;)

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What browser do you use?

You don't see 'search' on the top toolbar in between 'new posts' and 'quick links'??

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;548952]The real reason Joe Gibbs left was Dan Snyder he's an idiot.[/quote]

Bingo!! This whole fiasco is a cluster ****. Why treat a classy, up and coming QB like dirt instead of giving a second season in a different offensive system. If this is true that Campbell has been offered as trade bait and they really draft Sanchez, then Snyder and VC are true ****ing idiots!!

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[quote=SBXVII;549036]I'm kinda supprised at most of you. If I knew how to work a search button on here I'd find the thread where everyone is bashing JC saying he sucks, has a slow throwing motion, can only throw intermediate passes, throws too hard for short routes, is not accurate on the long ball, can't read defenses. Am I bashing him no not really but I do believe some of these issues. I for one thought Zorn would be able to fix some of the problems, perhaps Zorn has figured out JC will either not change cause of habit or can't change with out ruining some of his effectiveness.

Where are all the Colt fans? I think I only saw one Colt fan on here rallying for the cause. lol.

I agree there are some bigger issues then JC like the OL for protection. but no matter how much protection you give him, if he can't read a defense and audible then nothing will change with a decent OL. Oh, I'll agree he played lights out for 8 games. I'm not knocking him. I'm just wondering where all the JC bashers are?

As for Sanchez. It's not rocket science that JC is in his last yr. If there is a possibility to upgrade a team should do it atleast a yr prior to letting said current QB go cause the new one will have to learn the speed of the game and play calls. I honestly don't know why JC is throwing a fit. Stay with the team, Play lights out, show the Skins they need to resign him, and ask for more money this time. If you lose your possition to a one season, 16 game experienced Rookie then maybe there are serious problems.

How sweet it would be to have JC, Sanchez, and Colt. Perhaps not in that order. JC knows he would get the start. Sanchez does not even have the play book. He has to learn that first and then get on the field for experience, and then learn the speed of the game.

Also, I'm not sure why people are knocking Sanchez unless it's simply due to having to give up so much. Sanchez played in a pro style WCO in college. He can make all the throws. He is accurate. He can scramble, He throws the ball prior to his WR make their breaks (which if I'm accurate some said JC could not do. He seemed to throw the ball when the WR got to his mark on the field which usually resulted in a ball behind the WR) Sanchez hits his WR in stride. His only knock is he lacks experience. He played one season...16 games.

I have said in other threads....I'm not for moving up and getting him. I'm for dropping back and getting extra picks as long as we have a trade partner. I bet we don't. I believe we need OL, LB, CB, DE, WR, and RB. I'm happy with JC for this yr and see how he does with a better OL. but ....if they get Sanchez, so be it. I'll understand. I don't like mortgaging our future or losing picks to get him but if he is honestly better then JC then good get him. The QB's of this era need to get thicker skin. Buck up and let your play be your mouth. Stop being babies and play. There are 32 teams in the NFL and not everyone can be a starter. JC if you feel snubed then go elsewhere and try to take the job from someone else unless of course your lucky enough to go to a team that has no one.[/quote]

When you trade to draft a QB (JC) in the 1st round (Gibbs) you should give him every opportunity to be successfull. Have the Redskins done that with JC?
We all know the different offense system he has to learn, and HC changes. What will be different with Sanchez if you have the same O-line and WR to throw to.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;549050]Bingo!! This whole fiasco is a cluster ****. Why treat a classy, up and coming QB like dirt instead of giving a second season in a different offensive system. If this is true that Campbell has been offered as trade bait and they really draft Sanchez, then Snyder and VC are true ****ing idiots!![/quote]

My fellow DieHard Redskins fans I think he is on to something. What have they done to prove they know talent. If finding a franchise QB was easy than every team would do it. We change QB's every 2 years. This is why we are a 8-8 team at best.

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If they don't trade for Sanchez and Campbell comes back as the starter, he becomes a FA next year (could be franchised) and/or decides to leave, then who would be our QB? Collins? Brennan? Or are they going to trade the house for Tebow? I hope they have thought about that.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;549060]If they don't trade for Sanchez and Campbell comes back as the starter, he becomes a FA next year (could be franchised) and/or decides to leave, then who would be our QB? Collins? Brennan? Or are they going to trade the house for Tebow? I hope they have thought about that.[/quote]

If the cap goes away he won't be a FA.

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[quote=Mattyk72;549049]What browser do you use?

You don't see 'search' on the top toolbar in between 'new posts' and 'quick links'??[/quote]


My bad. :( When I get to TheWarpath.net it's under "Forum". It has no "Search" on it. When I clicked the thread however I found the silly little browser above. sorry.

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[quote=Mattyk72;549062]If the cap goes away he won't be a FA.[/quote]

Then I guess after the treatment the FO has been given him this offseason that he would ask for a trade like Cutler. You guys think Cutler got screwed, poor Campbell has been lied to his face more than once. I feel for him, he's a classy individual who deserves respect.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;549064]Then I guess after the treatment the FO has been given him this offseason that he would ask for a trade like Cutler. You guys think Cutler got screwed, poor Campbell has been lied to his face more than once. I feel for him, he's a classy individual who deserves respect.[/quote]


JC has been degraded twice in less than a month with the Cutler fiasco and now this Sanchez talk. He could go to a NFC South or West team and probably thrive.

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[quote=redskins1974;549042]Well, that fossil Collins took us to the playoffs a couple of years ago. I believe we were 5-7 with JC and Collins ran the table (4-0) to finish 9-7.[/quote]


Dude, that fossil Collins is just that a fossil and probably would get broken in half by the end of the full 16 game schedule. A 4 game stretch is nice, but a whole season it doth not make!!!!!!

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[quote=skins89moss;549055]When you trade to draft a QB (JC) in the 1st round (Gibbs) you should give him every opportunity to be successfull. Have the Redskins done that with JC?
We all know the different offense system he has to learn, and HC changes. What will be different with Sanchez if you have the same O-line and WR to throw to.[/quote]


I totally agree he(JC) deserves another yr to prove his worth. I'm not advocating we draft a QB. All I'm saying is if we get one it will not hurt my feeling and I can kinda understand. What will be different with Sanchez? who knows. The kids been in a Pro style WCO his whole time at SC. Yes he only played one yr but he understands the WCO style. Does that make him different no. JC has better experience having played pro games. but "if" JC has a hard time reading defenses and Sanchez supposedly is awsome at reading defenses then we have upgraded. If Sanchez can throw all the NFL throws easily (which I keep hearing and reading) then he's an upgrade to JC considering JC throws the short passes too hard and is not accurate on his long ball. JC has a hard time throwing the ball prior to his WR's making their cuts. He seems to stare down his WR's waiting for them to get open. Sanchez throws the ball prior to the WR making their cuts and hits them [B]in stride[/B]. That's an upgrade to me.

I just hope the team has a plan for RT, G, C, LB, and maybe DE.

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Also for you conspiracy theorist's out there how do we know that DS does not have Shanahan in his hip pocket telling him next yr he would like to have Sanchez? lol.

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[quote=SBXVII;549068]Also for you conspiracy theorist's out there how do we know that DS does not have Shanahan in his hip pocket telling him next yr he would like to have Sanchez? lol.[/quote]


Not sure he would want Sanchez. If Shanny was in Danny's hip pocket, we would have acquired Cutler more likely. Sanchez is going to be a bust in the NFL or just another average QB, nothing special. Like I said before, even an average QB would thrive on a stacked team like USC always seems to have. Just like how Colt could set those NCAA passing records playing bullshit reject teams from the old WAC and Mountain conferences. That is why us even thinking about Sanchez is a moot issue. Without a decent line to pass block no matter who is the QB, they are going to have a rough time of it in '09. Keep JC as starter for at least one more year and build the line up. Saturday is going to be very interesting. It sucks that I will have to work when this all unfolds on Saturday.