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Lotus 04-14-2010 08:34 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;687935]This confirms that I will be watching NFL Network. No way could I sit and watch Cerrato, [B]Mayock [/B]and Mel Kiper.[/quote]

Isn't Mayock on NFLN?

skinsfan69 04-14-2010 08:47 AM

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[quote=Lotus;687938]Isn't Mayock on NFLN?[/quote]

I meant McShay

Monkeydad 04-14-2010 09:02 AM

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It's official, ESPN can NOT criticize Dan Snyder any more.

Snyder finally woke up and fired Vinny. ESPN hired him to be a commentator for the thing he's WORST at life in? :laughing2



Added to agree with others: :doh:

What a joke.




I'll also be avoiding ESPN...even though I usually do.

CrustyRedskin 04-14-2010 09:03 AM

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kickin a man when he's down.

CrustyRedskin 04-14-2010 09:03 AM

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i like it.

duetsch215 04-14-2010 09:25 AM

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[quote=Skins fan 44;687795]He is an expert and will be able to tell what a team needs. His record shows it.[/quote]

hahah My thoughts exactly. What does he know about building a team? I ask the same thing when i hear Matt Milan speak

SmootSmack 04-14-2010 09:31 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;687935]This confirms that I will be watching NFL Network. No way could I sit and watch Cerrato, Mayock and Mel Kiper.[/quote]

You won't have to watch Cerrato since he'll be on the radio for only the radio affiliates that take the national feed on Thursday and Friday

Ruhskins 04-14-2010 09:33 AM

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One thing is to give your opinion in front of the camera and another is actually running a team. The same goes with fired coaches who get jobs doing analysis. Not that I'm defending anything that Vinny did here, but I'm not going to whine about it like most people. Granted that credibility is a big issue, but it's not like you are going to get a current GM or a current coach to do analysis on ESPN or any other sports network.

Although it is funny that Vinny is being brought up with a lot of criticism, when a lot of fans here were throwing around a lot of Vinny-esque ideas to get Bradford, Marshall, etc., etc.

davy 04-14-2010 09:41 AM

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Off topic...

I can't help wondering whenever I catch sight of the Snyder pic here if he was auditioning for a role in a ZZ Top video when it was taken.


Back to the Cerrato bashing. :)

GhettoDogAllStars 04-14-2010 10:11 AM

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[quote=SouperMeister;687875]How does this guy keep landing new gigs when he was such a joke? He will still tell you that he gave Zorn a playoff caliber roster. Then again, wasn't it Vinny who convinced Snyder to throw Gregg Williams overboard and promote Zorn from O-coordinator to head coach before Zorn had called a single play in the NFL? Sounds like an ESPN expert to me.[/quote]

I think it's safe to say, Cerrato has connections.

Hogroll 04-14-2010 10:33 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;687959]You won't have to watch Cerrato since he'll be on the radio for only the radio affiliates that take the national feed on Thursday and Friday[/quote]

Cerrato has the perfect face for radio.

Dirtbag59 04-14-2010 02:03 PM

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;687977]I think it's safe to say, Cerrato has connections.[/quote]

Especially in Miami and Columbia.

Trample the Elderly 04-14-2010 02:07 PM

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[B]Cerrato joins ESPN draft team[/B]

:vomit:

redsk1 04-14-2010 02:12 PM

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Well, VC shouldn't have to do his homework on our needs. Since he hasn't drafted a quality OL in the last 9 years, we need to focus on OL.

CRedskinsRule 04-14-2010 02:29 PM

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[quote=redsk1;688208]Well, VC shouldn't have to do his homework on our needs. Since he hasn't drafted a quality OL in the last 9 years, we need to focus on OL.[/quote]

It would be ironic if somehow we don't take OL in the first round, or maybe trade down and pass on Okung, and then VC spends the next portion blasting the Skins for not getting the best OT in the draft!

joethiesmanfan 04-14-2010 02:30 PM

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[quote=dirtbag359;687786]big surprise:
[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/13/cerrato-joins-espn-draft-team/"]cerrato joins espn draft team | profootballtalk.com[/url]

[url="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/04/vinny_cerrato_to_offer_draft_c.html"]d.c. Sports bog - vinny cerrato to offer draft commentary[/url]

should have brought back jon jansen. Anyway let the facepalms fly. Lets see if we can get 4 in a row.

Edit: Sooooo close. Just tied the record.[/quote]

damn, that's all i got to say about that!!!!

JoeRedskin 04-14-2010 02:39 PM

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[quote=Hogroll;687986]Cerrato has the perfect face for radio.[/quote]

Unfortunately, he's also got the perfect speaking voice for a professor at Gallaudet.

Warren85Ellard 04-14-2010 04:24 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;688197]Especially in Miami and Columbia.[/quote]

Vinny always seems gacked! Definitely explains his decision making.

Dirtbag59 04-14-2010 04:34 PM

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[quote=Warren85Ellard;688296]Vinny always seems gacked! Definitely explains his decision making.[/quote]

Speaking of gacked.
[IMG]http://cache-02.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2009/06/Picture_14_02.png[/IMG]

[quote=Hogroll;687986]Cerrato has the perfect face for radio.[/quote]

Not anymore. Now people excpect radios to advertise their personalities with pictures on the side of buses, billboards, and on their website.

ethat001 04-20-2010 05:53 PM

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[QUOTE]Drafting Crabtree?

Apparently, one year after picking 43 receivers in the 2008 draft, the Skins went into last year's event with Michael Crabtree still on their board.

"Did you notice the draft moment last year when Orakpo came up to the commissioner, that he had a Redskins jersey with his name on the back?" Cerrato said at one point. "We didn't have it wrong. There was another jersey, I think Crabtree we had. We had some guys that may drop."
[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/04/vinny_cerrato_and_the_draft_pi.html?wprss=dcsportsbog]D.C. Sports Bog - Vinny Cerrato and the draft pick he'd want back[/url]
[/QUOTE]

I'm so glad Cerrato's not here anymore. A year after drafting 3 receivers in the 2nd round (and neglecting our lines), he was still thinking about drafting Crabtree in the 1st round.. Thank goodness Orakpo was there..

CRedskinsRule 04-20-2010 06:00 PM

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[quote=ethat001;690621]I'm so glad Cerrato's not here anymore. A year after draft 3 receivers in the 2nd round (and neglecting our lines), he was still thinking about drafting Crabtree in the 1st round.. Thank goodness Orakpo was there..[/quote]

I bet he didn't have an Oher jersey:(

DIRTEE 04-20-2010 06:57 PM

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C'mon ESPN, Cerrato as an draft analyst. Did Matt Millen say no? Cerrato as an draft analyst is like having Big Ben as an operator on a rape hotline.

skinsfan_nn 04-21-2010 05:38 PM

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Ole BUG EYES still doesn't no when to shut up. Vinny I'm laughin at ya not with ya...

Cerrato praises Sims, takes shot at Millen
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 21, 2010 5:31 PM ET
Former Redskins Executive VP Vinny Cerrato weighed in on the three-way trade that sent linebacker Ernie Sims from the Lions to the Eagles, and he said the Eagles got a great deal -- while taking shot at a fellow former NFL personnel man.

"I think they stole him," Cerrato said of the Eagles acquiring Sims in an interview with 97.3 ESPNFM. "Ernie Sims is an outstanding player. They'll play him at will linebacker, which in their defense, a smaller guy with speed fits. He'll run and make a lot of tackles and the guy is a tackling machine."

But Cerrato wasn't done there. He also felt the need to make a crack at the expense of the man who drafted Sims, former Lions President Matt Millen.

"The only thing is, if Matt Millen said he was a great player, then we don't know," Cerrato said.

Ouch. Not very nice. But kind of funny.

hooskins 04-21-2010 10:22 PM

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They had Cerrato on 106.7 with Wise. It was pretty funny as they kept poking fun at him.

mlmdub130 04-21-2010 10:27 PM

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[quote=hooskins;691364]They had Cerrato on 106.7 with Wise. It was pretty funny as they kept poking fun at him.[/quote]

he said he would take tebow in the second :rofl:

Lotus 04-21-2010 10:39 PM

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;691230]Ole BUG EYES still doesn't no when to shut up. Vinny I'm laughin at ya not with ya...

Cerrato praises Sims, takes shot at Millen
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 21, 2010 5:31 PM ET
Former Redskins Executive VP Vinny Cerrato weighed in on the three-way trade that sent linebacker Ernie Sims from the Lions to the Eagles, and he said the Eagles got a great deal -- while taking shot at a fellow former NFL personnel man.

"I think they stole him," Cerrato said of the Eagles acquiring Sims in an interview with 97.3 ESPNFM. "Ernie Sims is an outstanding player. They'll play him at will linebacker, which in their defense, a smaller guy with speed fits. He'll run and make a lot of tackles and the guy is a tackling machine."

But Cerrato wasn't done there. He also felt the need to make a crack at the expense of the man who drafted Sims, former Lions President Matt Millen.

"The only thing is, if Matt Millen said he was a great player, then we don't know," Cerrato said.

Ouch. Not very nice. But kind of funny.[/quote]

One unemployed personnel man slams another unemployed personnel man. That's meaningful. :(

rbanerjee23 04-21-2010 10:40 PM

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They have him there so that people can take his advice and analysis and find success doing the exact opposite of what he suggests

Dirtbag59 04-21-2010 11:04 PM

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[quote=DIRTEE;690642]C'mon ESPN, Cerrato as an draft analyst. Did Matt Millen say no? Cerrato as an draft analyst is like having Big Ben as an operator on a rape hotline.[/quote]

With Mike Tyson as his supervisor.

skinsfan69 04-22-2010 08:41 AM

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[quote=hooskins;691364]They had Cerrato on 106.7 with Wise. It was pretty funny as they kept poking fun at him.[/quote]

I listened to it on the radio. The guy never takes any responsibility for some of the bad picks he made. He mentions ST, Samuels and Orakpo and you can hear him pretty much bragging about those guys. Yet he fails to mention any of the bums. What a loser.

BringBackJoeT 04-22-2010 11:34 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;691464]I listened to it on the radio. The guy never takes any responsibility for some of the bad picks he made. He mentions ST, Samuels and Orakpo and you can hear him pretty much bragging about those guys. Yet he fails to mention any of the bums. What a loser.[/quote]

He was also on Mike and Mike this morning, and emphasized not once, but twice, that the team didn't have a franchise quarterback during his years in Washington, and commented the second time he said it that that is the reason why he is now doing commentary for ESPN.

rbanerjee23 04-22-2010 11:45 AM

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^^ Wow are you serious?? I really hated that guy for being a crappy 'GM' but to openly insult one of the players you were involved in drafting in the first round, no less? I cannot understand how Snyder kept him around for as long as he did.

MTK 04-22-2010 11:47 AM

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[quote=BringBackJoeT;691546]He was also on Mike and Mike this morning, and emphasized not once, but twice, that the team didn't have a franchise quarterback during his years in Washington, and commented the second time he said it that that is the reason why he is now doing commentary for ESPN.[/quote]

Nice to see nothing has changed with VC. Still as delusional as ever.

Defensewins 04-22-2010 11:52 AM

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[quote=BringBackJoeT;691546]He was also on Mike and Mike this morning, and emphasized not once, but twice, that the team didn't have a franchise quarterback during his years in Washington, and commented the second time he said it that that is the reason why he is now doing commentary for ESPN.[/quote]

VC is not the sharpest tool in the shed. So he still will not admit that the offensive line was neglected in the draft for so many years and that was the major cause of our failure in 2009? What an ego on that guy. He will never be a GM in the NFL again. What was Snyder thinking when hired him twice?
I hated VC from day ONE. I was one of the guys that always wanted to get rid of Ceratto for a real GM. Snyder and Ceratto was a terrible duo as our GM.
How diffrent things would have been if we kept Casserly and later Schottenheimer.

SmootSmack 04-22-2010 11:53 AM

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[quote=rbanerjee23;691553]^^ Wow are you serious?? I really hated that guy for being a crappy 'GM' but to openly insult one of the players you were involved in drafting in the first round, no less? I cannot understand how Snyder kept him around for as long as he did.[/quote]

He never wanted anything to do with Campbell. I don't think he was ever a fan, but still no reason for him to say those things. VC's a strange bird, never been much of a "high road" kind of guy.

tryfuhl 04-22-2010 11:55 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;691564]He never wanted anything to do with Campbell. I don't think he was ever a fan, but still no reason for him to say those things. VC's a strange bird, never been much of a "high road" kind of guy.[/quote]
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MTK 04-22-2010 11:57 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;691564]He never wanted anything to do with Campbell. I don't think he was ever a fan, but still no reason for him to say those things. VC's a strange bird, never been much of a "high road" kind of guy.[/quote]

Pretty much explains the lack of people skills you always hear about with him. What a douche.

BringBackJoeT 04-22-2010 12:05 PM

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[quote=rbanerjee23;691553]^^ [B]Wow are you serious?[/B]? I really hated that guy for being a crappy 'GM' but to openly insult one of the players you were involved in drafting in the first round, no less? I cannot understand how Snyder kept him around for as long as he did.[/quote]

Yup--he was on a little after 8 a.m. Did no one else hear it?

They'll probably have the audio of the interview on ESPN's Mike & Mike page later this afternoon.

DFI 04-22-2010 12:33 PM

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there could be some value to Cerrato's comments.....if you just listen to what he says and do the oposite

Monkeydad 04-22-2010 12:56 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;691464]I listened to it on the radio. The guy never takes any responsibility for some of the bad picks he made. He mentions ST, Samuels and Orakpo and you can hear him pretty much bragging about those guys. Yet he fails to mention any of the bums. What a loser.[/quote]

Yeah, if he was such a success, he'd still be here and we'd be defending champs.

Yes, he had a few great picks, but it was boom of bust for him...and his busts FAR outnumbered his successes.

SouperMeister 04-22-2010 01:08 PM

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[quote=BringBackJoeT;691546]He was also on Mike and Mike this morning, and emphasized not once, but twice, that the team didn't have a franchise quarterback during his years in Washington, and commented the second time he said it that that is the reason why he is now doing commentary for ESPN.[/quote]I heard this also, and was very annoyed that Vinny puts all the blame on our QB play. Vinny talked Snyder out of Gregg Williams as HC, then championed Zorn's promotion from OC to HC. I've also heard that he pushed hard for the Archuleta signing, perhaps the most disastrous FA move of the Snyder era. The biggest reason Vinny is at ESPN is that he wasn't very good at his job here - it's time he looked at the man in the mirror.


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