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[quote=over the mountain;764115]yeah stadium security at Fed Ex is lazy. i was in teh upper section a few years ago, 2 skins fans are wailing on each other at the entrance to a bathroom for a good minute. a lady goes up to 2 people, 1 was a security guard another a female usher of sorts, she says there are 2 guys fighting in the bathroom, which was literally 10 feet away from were these 2 employees are. the guy smiles and joking laughs with the lady usher saying "shit i aint doing nothing".

then there are times were i have been caught on video surveillance in the lower row and i get a letter in the mail saying how i was caught on video and this is a warning. so idk, i get busted on video in the lower section for dumping beer on opposing fans but its a free for all in the uppers.

hoestly, what do you expect the 22 year old temporary security guard from PG county who makes $8.50 an hour on 8 sundays a year to do?[/quote]

Stadium security is limited to some extent in just how far they can go with intervention measures. They do however, work closely with the PG County authorities, but the response to incidents are not always swift. Some of the security personnel don't even have communication devices.

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[quote=over the mountain;764053]
but the rowdy violent nature that some drunk male fans display is a product of the NFL marketing imo.[/quote]


I'm glad you have mellowed out and matured. :food-smil

Although I'm just not sure I buy into the whole bit about the NFL marketing. I think we as adults should understand personal responsibility first and foremost. We're not mindless cavemen. I understand that the products mostly advertised during football games are automobiles, food, and beer. Those are three of us men's favorite things, lol! But, as a man, I never once felt that because the NFL markets their sport as a dangerous, collision sport, that I would have to conduct myself in the same manner in the stands or anywhere else I happen to be watching the game at. I hope I'm not in the minority here. If so, God help us!

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Alcohol + idiots = problems

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[quote=mredskins;764109]And also when I get away from my wife and kids Iwant to just get drunk and rowdy, what are we cavemen?

Probably 95% of the folks at the game create a family atmosphere it is the 5% that ruin it for the rest. I don't go because I don't want to deal with the 5%.


IMO if the stadiums up the security and too ka hard stand on fighting and drinking the 5% would easily dwindle to manageable 1%.[/quote]

My experience at games say about 95% of those is attendance are cavemen and like you since I dont want to deal with them I dont go. The last thing they want to do is cut back on the cash cow that is beer sales.

These teams have built up the idiotic notion that the fans are the 12th man and part of the team and the fans actually take that stuff seriously. Why would anyone be surprised that the 12th man, fueled by booze, gets jacked up and violent?

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[quote=mredskins;764106]Wrong buddy they were intend for families, we have just let the rowdy drunks take over.[/quote]

I dont know many families that can afford those ticket prices.

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going to a game is so much better, funner and more enjoyable when you realize the opposing fans are people that just so happen to wear a different color on sunday.

ive come along way, still have a ways to go thoo, it is something i am proud of to the extent that looking back just a few years ago on my behavior it makes me down right embarrassed.

it feels good thoo, i mean real good. unfortunately when guys like me grow up and start acting our age there is just another dumber, drunker version of me waiting to take my place.

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[quote=irish;764124]My experience at games say about 95% of those is attendance are cavemen and like you since I dont want to deal with them I dont go. The last thing they want to do is cut back on the cash cow that is beer sales.

These teams have built up the idiotic notion that the fans are the 12th man and part of the team and the fans actually take that stuff seriously. Why would anyone be surprised that the 12th man, fueled by booze, gets jacked up and violent?[/quote]

You raise a good point in that respect. I think it goes back to what I was saying earlier. We as adults should exercise personal responsibility. But, those who do, usually don't go to the games.

I have a sneaky suspicion my girlfriend might be getting me Redskins tickets for the Giants game the day after New Year's. If so it will be my first Redskins game ever live! But, if so, I'm kind of apprehensive in going if what I've seen in these you tube videos is what I am going to have to deal with.

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[quote=over the mountain;764130]going to a game is so much better, funner and more enjoyable when you realize the opposing fans are people that just so happen to wear a different color on sunday.

ive come along way, still have a ways to go thoo, it is something i am proud of to the extent that looking back just a few years ago on my behavior it makes me down right embarrassed.

it feels good thoo, i mean real good. unfortunately when guys like me grow up and start acting our age there is just another dumber, drunker version of me waiting to take my place.[/quote]

That's what I call learning to take responsibility for your actions. That's the first step towards recovery, so many people can't get to the point where they can admit that to themselves.

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[quote=over the mountain;764130]going to a game is so much better, funner and more enjoyable when you realize the opposing fans are people that just so happen to wear a different color on sunday.

ive come along way, still have a ways to go thoo, it is something i am proud of to the extent that looking back just a few years ago on my behavior it makes me down right embarrassed.

it feels good thoo, i mean real good. unfortunately when guys like me grow up and start acting our age there is just another dumber, drunker version of me waiting to take my place.[/quote]

Yeah, but at least the good thing is you see how much more enjoyable going to the games can be now, although I'm sure even more so when the Redskins finally start winning on a consistent basis. :cheeky-sm

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The funniest part is how that scronny kid says "whats up bro you want some" and then hides behind 98 dude, then finally shows his face, then gets clocked.

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[quote=mredskins;764068]Well if you are at FedEx the amount of Redskins fans to opposing team fans ratio lends this to be true. If you are drunk and want to fight most likely the closet folks to you are skins fans.

It is the same at all stadiums.

[B]If you want a fun filled family sporting outing in this country anymore take your family to a minor league baseball game.[/B] I go to about 10 a year everyone in the family has a great time. Never see a fight, rarely hear a swear, [B]always something fun going on between innings[/B] and the[B] price plus everything that goes a long with it for 10 games cost half of going to one NFL game[/B].[/quote]

Yea, if you want to take a nap for 3 1/2 hours. Is that even considered a sport? Golf is more exciting.

Something fun between innings is watching paint dry.


The only thing cheaper to see a minor leagues baseball game is the ticket. After that beers are $8 hot dog $5 and so on.

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I have to agree that minor league baseball is fun. It's cheap and they do a good job at keeping it family oriented. Beers are $5 where I go, and it's a local brewery too.

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[quote=firstdown;764140]Yea, if you want to take a nap for 3 1/2 hours. Is that even considered a sport? Golf is more exciting.

Something fun between innings is watching paint dry.


[B]The only thing cheaper to see a minor leagues baseball game is the ticket. After that beers are $8 hot dog $5 and so on[/B].[/quote]


Not in my neck of the woods.

I enjoy baseball. Games are like 3 hours tops BTW.

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[quote=mredskins;764109]And also when I get away from my wife and kids Iwant to just get drunk and rowdy, what are we cavemen?

Probably 95% of the folks at the game create a family atmosphere it is the 5% that ruin it for the rest. I don't go because I don't want to deal with the 5%.


IMO if the stadiums up the security and too ka hard stand on fighting and drinking the 5% would easily dwindle to manageable 1%.[/quote]

I'd say its probably more like 99% make it a family atmosphere. Thats only 5 rows back, 5 rows foward, 4 rows one way and 5 the other. Thats a small section and if you have one ass in that space you will know.

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I'm coming back from three years in Japan this week, and I'm taking my whole family to the Bucs game. This is my first game at Fed Ex, and this is the type of crap I'm worried about. I plan on drinking, and my wife plans on wearing her Dolphins gear (I know right?). We'll see what happens, but those looked like two big dudes.....have to push em down the steps:)

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[quote=mredskins;764144]Not in my neck of the woods.

I enjoy baseball. Games are like 3 hours tops BTW.[/quote]

I just hate baseball. They could give me free behind home plate tickets to Wrigley Field, free food/beer and the VIP treatment and I would still think it sucked. Oh, they did give me those and it SUCKED. LOL

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[quote=Stacks42;764019]This is just embarrasing. The Redskins need to be a little more responsible in over serving and removing fans who have had too much to drink.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_BNQ6OhiCY&feature=player_embedded#!]YouTube - Redskins Vs. Vikings FAN fight[/url][/quote]

I go to most Redskins home games and there really are not a lot of incidents like this one. It's unfortunate for the people who had to sit near this mess.

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[quote=Mattyk;764142]I have to agree that minor league baseball is fun. It's cheap and they do a good job at keeping it family oriented. Beers are $5 where I go, and it's a local brewery too.[/quote]

Agreed. My son loves games...he's gone to a few already. Even at age 2, he'd sit and watch all 9 innings.

His favorite part is hit batters...and there are plenty at the low-level independent team games in our town. :food-smil


I'm also very apprehensive to take my family to an NFL game. Beer in large quantities usually ruins family events, whether it's a football game or a wedding reception. :cheeky-sm

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[quote=firstdown;764149]I just hate baseball. They could give me free behind home plate tickets to Wrigley Field, free food/beer and the VIP treatment and I would still think it sucked. Oh, they did give me those and it SUCKED. LOL[/quote]

Of course it would suck...it's a Cubs game.

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[quote=hagams;764147]I'm coming back from three years in Japan this week, and I'm taking my whole family to the Bucs game. This is my first game at Fed Ex, and this is the type of crap I'm worried about. I plan on drinking, and my wife plans on wearing her Dolphins gear (I know right?). We'll see what happens, but those looked like two big dudes.....have to push em down the steps:)[/quote]
Don't take too much from this thread. I have been to 15 or 20 games and have never seen any fights around us. Only once did we have a guy trying to cause problems but after he was ignored he shut up. Take your family and enjoy the game and welcome home.

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How come its always someone wearing a jersey getting in fights?

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Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel did a segment a while back which featured a group of Redskin fans that tailgate every week at FedEx and get plastered before the game. This fight fit right along with footage from that segment...

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[quote=firstdown;764167]How come its always someone wearing a jersey getting in fights?[/quote]Becuz whan i putz on my jersay itz totally battlle timez!

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[quote=NYCSkin;764168]Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel did a segment a while back which featured a group of Redskin fans that tailgate every week at FedEx and get plastered before the game. This fight fit right along with footage from that segment...[/quote]

Nothing wrong with getting ripped before the game as long as you don't have to ack like an ass. Its just a small % that gets drunk and want to fight.

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[quote=NYCSkin;764168]Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel did a segment a while back which featured a group of Redskin fans that tailgate every week at FedEx and get plastered before the game. This fight fit right along with footage from that segment...[/quote]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJScIxpTrm8]YouTube - DTC - Excessive DrinkingHBO[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43c2zj9CTfc]YouTube - DTC Tailgates All Morning/Day at FedEx[/ame]


Honestly these folks don't like football they like a reason to get drunk. Plain and simple.

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[quote=NYCSkin;764168]Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel did a segment a while back which featured a group of Redskin fans that tailgate every week at FedEx and get plastered before the game. This fight fit right along with footage from that segment...[/quote]

yeah the "dead tree crew" thoose guys are ass clowns. if you have any doubts check out their website [url=http://www.deadtreecrew.com]Dead Tree Crew[/url], pretty stupid ass bio's. i just don't understand some people

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DTC = total douche squad

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How many members here are actually in TDC? A single tear dropping into they're freshly cracked Beast, brain churning an inch a minute trying in vain to come up with a defense, heart aching.

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[quote=Mattyk;764142]I have to agree that minor league baseball is fun. It's cheap and they do a good job at keeping it family oriented. Beers are $5 where I go, and it's a local brewery too.[/quote]

That is also my experience with minor league baseball.

IMO baseball is much better in person than on tv while football is much better on tv than in person.

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[quote=mredskins;764173][URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJScIxpTrm8"]YouTube - DTC - Excessive DrinkingHBO[/URL]

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43c2zj9CTfc"]YouTube - DTC Tailgates All Morning/Day at FedEx[/URL]


Honestly these folks don't like football they like a reason to get drunk. Plain and simple.[/quote]

Once again the people that are getting waisted and into trouble in those clips all had one thing in common. Wearing a jersey.LOL Just go to youtube and type in Football fans fighting and in all the clips the fighters are wearinga a jersey. All of the loud mouth people I have encountered at games have been wearing a jersey. Whats the deal with that?

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[quote=Mattyk;764176]DTC = total douche squad[/quote]

Are this guys for real, thats real gurly like. Who in the hell listen to this dudes.

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[quote=SmootSmack;764032]This is ultimately why Rogers shouldn't be too bothered by fans booing. We're not talking about the s arpest knives in the drawer here[/quote]

The drunk Larry the Cable Guy look-a-like in the Orakpo jersey probably has an MBA from Georgetown.

Why the hell are you getting wasted at a football game buddy? Why, $100's of dollars worth of tickets and yet you have no idea whats going on. I guess thats not the worse idea as a Redskin fan to forget about the actual games but whats the point of having the biggest stadium in the NFL if it means all we're doing is increasing the odds of admitting inbred idiots to home games?

People need to go to watch the actual games, you want to get wasted go to a college bar and creep out the local co-eds. Don't do it during a football game with kids around.

Have one or two beers, get a buzz going and enjoy the damn game. Of course maybe if some of you idiots weren't ****ing alcoholics then one or two beers would be all you'd need.

*end rant*
**Rant directed at drunk morons in video**

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[quote=mredskins;764173]
Honestly these folks don't like football they like a reason to get drunk. Plain and simple.[/quote]Agree 100%, these guys are simply douchebag morons. They wouldn't last 5 seconds at the old Vet or in Oakland.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;764188]The drunk Larry the Cable Guy look-a-like in the Orakpo jersey probably has an MBA from Georgetown.

Why the hell are you getting wasted at a football game buddy? Why, $100's of dollars worth of tickets and yet you have no idea whats going on. I guess thats not the worse idea as a Redskin fan to forget about the actual games but whats the point of having the biggest stadium in the NFL if it means all we're doing is increasing the odds of admitting inbred idiots to home games?

People need to go to watch the actual games, you want to get wasted go to a college bar and creep out the local co-eds. Don't do it during a football game with kids around.

Have one or two beers, get a buzz going and enjoy the damn game. Of course maybe if some of you idiots weren't ****ing alcoholics then one or two beers would be all you'd need.

*end rant*
**Rant directed at drunk morons in video**[/quote]


It goes back to people who are not mature enough to control themselves. Whats sad is that dudes Girl apparently started all the shit lol.. Some folks just dont have a life and have to start shit bcuz they are so ****ing dumb and think it's cool to fight in front of kids and families. Pretty sad actually

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[quote=skinsfaninok;764066]THis is why Beer isn't sold at college football games[/quote]

And should'nt be at Pro games!Look these asswipes are at every stadium Giants, Jets, Pats, Eagles....Dallas etc.Look I'm a grown man and I like beer or 2 once in a while but these guys and like it or not most of them are young ...just don't know how to behave or how to hold their alcohol.
Iwill be at the Giants-Redskin game this week first time at the new place and I'm not really looking forward to it becuase ....well we knew everyone in the old place and their kids ...hell we got Xmas cards form most of them but these seats are all new and in different areas. Son inLaw is a Marine and scheduled to deploy in March and he is a big Redskin fan so I'm taking him to a game in NY ....which he has never been to before so it should be fun.

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^ hope u guys have fun.. Tell your son inlaw good luck over there.. As far as the game goes, NFC east dogfight again. Giants are the better team but their not that much better IMO. Should be a good one

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[quote=Giantone;764204]And should'nt be at Pro games!Look these asswipes are at every stadium Giants, Jets, Pats, Eagles....Dallas etc.Look I'm a grown man and I like beer or 2 once in a while but these guys and like it or not[B] most of them are young[/B] ...just don't know how to behave or how to hold their alcohol.
Iwill be at the Giants-Redskin game this week first time at the new place and I'm not really looking forward to it becuase ....well we knew everyone in the old place and their kids ...hell we got Xmas cards form most of them but these seats are all new and in different areas. Son inLaw is a Marine and scheduled to deploy in March and he is a big Redskin fan so I'm taking him to a game in NY ....which he has never been to before so it should be fun.[/quote]

Thats the sad part. A good amount of the people in question are over 30, some even have kids of their own.

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I'm pretty tired of these idiots giving Skins fans a bad name. I don't understand why you need to get drunk when you go to a football game. You can get drunk at your house, a bar, etc. and it will be cheaper, and you can still watch the game. Football games should be a family atmosphere, but alcohol has ruined it. NFL officials can come out and say, look, we limit guys to 3 or 4 beers (w/e the limit is) and then we cut them off, but we all know it doesn't happen, or they find ways around the rules (like hey, more sober friend of mine, go buy me some more beers) , but I do believe the NFL should ban alcohol sales at games. Now we know that will never happen because beer is a cash cow for the NFL, but that's the way it should be.

I'm envious that college games are a more pleasant environment than an NFL game, and they have everything the NFL has with rivalries, same playing field/slightly different rules, and they never have a problem with this because no beer is sold at all. Even after idiots like that NY guy drive home drunk from the game and kill innocent people, they still don't do enough to stop it. What's to stop a wasted ass DTC member from hopping in his massive suv and hitting a Skins fan walking across a crosswalk? Nothing. Not when you have stadium personnel that could give less than a shit about a drunk guy, or cops that stand around but don't bother looking for potential DUI offenders waiting to happen, because it's like finding a needle in the haystack.

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[quote=mredskins;764068]If you want a fun filled family sporting outing in this country anymore take your family to a minor league baseball game. I go to about 10 a year everyone in the family has a great time. Never see a fight, rarely hear a swear, always something fun going on between innings and the price plus everything that goes a long with it for 10 games cost half of going to one NFL game.[/quote]

Amen to this!

If you really want to go to an NFL game and see it in some degree of comfort without the intrusion of drunken bozos, save up your money and buy yourself a seat or two in the club section(s) where there are plenty of amenities, cover from the elements and access to hi-def TVs for inspection of replays.

If you want to see an NFL game live "on a budget", you will have to put up with whomever happens to sit within 15 yards of you and with however much booze he/she consumed in the four-hour tailgating party prior to kickoff.

I did that too many times. Now I prefer fewer games in the "box seats"...

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[quote=LavaRnChad;764035]I wonder if these guys were a few of the thousands of idiots that were cheering and applauding when A. Peterson was injured. Bunch stupid m'fers...[/quote]

I cheered when Peterson was hurt. He obviously wasn't hurt that bad and it gave us a chance to win.

If you think this team can beat teams straight up, I don't know what to tell you. We need injuries and mistakes to win games.