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Just for the record - I am in 100% agreement with Schneed on this. Every day, Coach Mike should walk by AH and blatantly ignore the guy.

I got no problem having him sit on the bench/be inactive all season. One less roster spot? Fine - Practice him hard for a week, let him bitch & complain about shortness of breath or some other lame minor injury and then IR him for the season. He's out of the clubhouse, we get our roster spot and his big payday shrinks further & further.

The more I think of it, the more I like this idea - I wouldn't be surprised if Shanallen are just standing by the "IR button" hoping AH complains of an injury:
AH: (To Shanahan while walking off the practice field) I think I stubbed my toe and can't practice.
MS: If you are injured, hit the showers - otherwise get your ass back out there.
[Shockingly, AH hits the showers]
BA: (On AH's cellphone as AH is leaving the showers) Hey, Albert just heard about your toe injury. As a precautionary measure, we've placed you on IR. I'm sure you'll want to work out with your own trainer, so see you next year.

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Yeah I hear you but Vick was a different type of gamble.

I just don't see AH playing at an all-pro level on a consistent basis for anyone. Not only would he have to get his ass in gear and start ballin', but he would have to lose the shitty attitude. Not happening. He got paid, he's happy, and now he's just content on playing out the string.

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[quote=Mattyk;809999]Yeah I hear you but Vick was a different type of gamble.

I just don't see AH playing at an all-pro level on a consistent basis for anyone. Not only would he have to get his ass in gear and start ballin', but he would have to lose the shitty attitude. Not happening. He got paid, he's happy, [B]and now he's just content on playing out the string[/B].[/quote]

This is the $64,000 question and, to answer it, we are all just guessing as to what is going in AH's head. You (and others) think he's checked out and content to play out the string so keeping him around does nothing. I (and others) think he still gives a sh** about something (money, legacy, notoriety ... something he needs to be playing football to get) and so taking football away from him will get him to play well for us (for a year) and then we can get a decent trade for him.

I agree he has "no heart or passion [I]for the game[/I]" but I think he does have passion about [I]something[/I] and needs football to get it (whatever "it" is). Not being gifted with ESP, it is entirely possible that you may be right as to his future motivational potential.

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[quote=Schneed10;809992]And you need look no further than Michael Vick to see that teams are willing to take a shot on a questionable player. He's out of football, you don't know whether he'll still have any athleticism, the Eagles take a chance with a $5 million deal and boom, instant franchise QB.

If Haynesworth continues to act like a bum, he'll still get a couple mill from somebody just on the off chance he might dominate. But if he actually dominates for us in the closing years of his deal? Someone will pay him a big chunk of change, guaranteed.[/quote]
His ego is greater than his Pavlovian desires. He thinks that he's the shit and that the 4-3 of the Jim Schwartz variety is THE WAY to use him, and it's 'his way or the highway". If he had any brains, he would have realized that he ain't the boss and that he wasn't going to get his way.

Vick underwent an entire attitude change in which he finally put the time in the film room and other areas and not just relying on natural talent. Haynesworth would probably walk in there thinking that he's back in Tennessee and back to doing "his thing", which includes him never finishing a whole season due to injury(for whatever reason) and embellishing injuries just to take a play off.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;810017]His ego is greater than his Pavlovian desires. He thinks that he's the shit and that the 4-3 of the Jim Schwartz variety is THE WAY to use him, and it's 'his way or the highway". If he had any brains, he would have realized that he ain't the boss and that he wasn't going to get his way.

Vick underwent an entire attitude change in which he finally put the time in the film room and other areas and not just relying on natural talent. Haynesworth would probably walk in there thinking that he's back in Tennessee and back to doing "his thing", which includes him never finishing a whole season due to injury(for whatever reason) and embellishing injuries just to take a play off.[/quote]

Vick had the attitude change because he sat in jail, unable to play football and unable to earn the living he was used to.

Same thing with Haynesworth. You don't need jail to accomplish the same thing. You just have to take the opportunity to deny him the ability to earn that next contract. If he's non-compliant, you deactivate him without pay like we did at the end of last season.

Human nature is what it is. Sure he's a piece of crap, but he's still motivated by something.

Keep in mind that as soon as he ends up on a team in a 4-3 defense, he'll turn it on and dominate. Can you in good conscience let that happen? I could accept it if we got a high pick in return, but we all know that's not going to happen. Might as well sit on him.

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[quote=Schneed10;810019]Vick had the attitude change because he sat in jail, unable to play football and unable to earn the living he was used to.

Same thing with Haynesworth. You don't need jail to accomplish the same thing. You just have to take the opportunity to deny him the ability to earn that next contract. If he's non-compliant, you deactivate him without pay like we did at the end of last season.

Human nature is what it is. Sure he's a piece of crap, but he's still motivated by something.

[B]Keep in mind that as soon as he ends up on a team in a 4-3 defense, he'll turn it on and dominate. Can you in good conscience let that happen? I could accept it if we got a high pick in return, but we all know that's not going to happen. Might as well sit on him.[/B][/quote]

At this point I don't see how the team can keep him on the roster without paying him. He would be a waste of time (the media circus), a waste of roster space, and a waste of money. I really don't care if he goes somewhere else and starts to dominate (we've seen plenty of that already anyway). The team made a mistake in getting him in the first place and they just need to move on. I would rather have the team/fans/sports media focus on other things instead of hearing about this guy for another season.

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He is also facing possible suspensions for his off season shenanigans. He may not even be able to play a full season.
He needs to be off loaded to the first dumbass to offer us a trade.

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[quote=Ruhskins;810021]At this point I don't see how the team can keep him on the roster without paying him. He would be a waste of time (the media circus), a waste of roster space, and a waste of money. I really don't care if he goes somewhere else and starts to dominate (we've seen plenty of that already anyway). The team made a mistake in getting him in the first place and they just need to move on. I would rather have the team/fans/sports media focus on other things instead of hearing about this guy for another season.[/quote]

Every decision has a cost/benefit:

Costs of Keeping Him:
- 1 roster spot, the value of which is determined by how deep our team is. If our 53rd man sucks balls like he did last season, then there's really not much of a cost here.

- Salary and cap space, which at this point is relatively small

- Media headaches, which I think is overblown. What had more to do with our W/L record last year, the media asking questions about Haynesworth or our terrible transition to the 3-4 defense and terrible QB play?

Benefits of Keeping Him:
- keep him off opposing teams

- nowhere to go but up in terms of production, WAY up

- setting a tone for the team that you're not going to pout your way out of town, if you want to earn your next contract, you'll have to honor your first one.

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Don't trade him in division, don't allow him to sign with any team he wants by cutting him. Take w.ever we.can get for him. Out of conference would be a plus.

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[quote=Schneed10;810033]Every decision has a cost/benefit:

Costs of Keeping Him:
- 1 roster spot, the value of which is determined by how deep our team is. If our 53rd man sucks balls like he did last season, then there's really not much of a cost here.

- Salary and cap space, which at this point is relatively small

- Media headaches, which I think is overblown. What had more to do with our W/L record last year, the media asking questions about Haynesworth or our terrible transition to the 3-4 defense and terrible QB play?
[/quote]

Injuries can dictate whether a roster spot is important or not. They could always happen, and on a rebuilding team I think is ridiculous to take up a roster spot on a guy you are trying to teach a lesson.

Unless the team finds a way to not pay him, I'm sure the other players are not going to be so crazy about the idea of AH sitting on the bench and still get paid. I doubt MS would play him if he stays, and if he does, it'd be minimal play.

The media will continue to make a story out of this as long as AH is on the roster. I'm sure many players are sick of having to comment on the story.

[quote=Schneed10;810033]
Benefits of Keeping Him:
- keep him off opposing teams

- nowhere to go but up in terms of production, WAY up

- setting a tone for the team that you're not going to pout your way out of town, if you want to earn your next contract, you'll have to honor your first one.[/quote]

AH has spent the last two years out of shape and playing at a subpar level. I really doubt he's going to be that dominant.

As I said before, I doubt MS will play him, so you are being very optimistic on this aspect.

And as far as your third point, well the Bengals have done that with Ochocinco and now they are doing it with Palmer, it hasn't gone too well for them. The team should focus on not bringing trouble players like Haynesworth in the first place. That's how you set a tone and culture on the team, not by keeping a malcontent on the roster and paying him to sit on the bench.

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[quote=Schneed10;810033]Every decision has a cost/benefit:

Costs of Keeping Him:
- 1 roster spot, the value of which is determined by how deep our team is. If our 53rd man sucks balls like he did last season, then there's really not much of a cost here.

- Salary and cap space, which at this point is relatively small

- Media headaches, which I think is overblown. What had more to do with our W/L record last year, the media asking questions about Haynesworth or our terrible transition to the 3-4 defense and terrible QB play?

Benefits of Keeping Him:
- keep him off opposing teams

- nowhere to go but up in terms of production, WAY up

- setting a tone for the team that you're not going to pout your way out of town, if you want to earn your next contract, you'll have to honor your first one.[/quote]

AH will keep himself off every other 3-4 team in the league. That leaves him with 4-3 teams to choose from.

Philly is the only destination I see him going to within the division because he has a recommender, similar to how McNabb vouched for Vick. Coughlin won't tolerate his BS and Dallas has a 3-4.

In the NFC North, the 4-3 teams are Chicago, Detroit, and Minny. Scratch Detroit off, since they have Suh and don't want AH to screw up Suh. Minny is falling down faster than London Bridge, and Chicago is on the edge of collapse due to age on their D.

In the NFC West, San Fran and Arizona run a 3-4. Not to mention, the division is weaker than distilled water. I also don't think Spags will accomodate to him nearly as much as they want if the signs there. Seattle is in a state of decline. He can enjoy the weather and having no championships.

In the NFC South, you have Gregg the hardass, so he's a no go in NO. Atlanta might grab him because they have no choice, but they might pass because of his ego. Carolina...I wouldn't mind him signing there. Tampa...I think they're pleased with what they have.

AFC East: Count out the Pats, Jets and Phins. He can enjoy some Buffalo wings.

AFC North: Cincy, Ohio, and that's it. Everyone else runs a 3-4

AFC South: He might go home to Tenn, but the old regime is gone. I don't see the Colts wanting an ego with a criminal record. Jacksonville...nice weather, crap team. Texans...Tubby's 3-4.

AFC West: Oakland and Denver, maybe.

And if Philly beats us with him, the better the chances we get the last laugh with our 1st rounder next year. Well, and that he's always injured by the end of the season, thereby weakening themselves come playoff time.

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[quote=Schneed10;810019]Vick had the attitude change because he sat in jail, unable to play football and unable to earn the living he was used to.

Same thing with Haynesworth. You don't need jail to accomplish the same thing. You just have to take the opportunity to deny him the ability to earn that next contract. If he's non-compliant, you deactivate him without pay like we did at the end of last season.

Human nature is what it is. Sure he's a piece of crap, but he's still motivated by something.

Keep in mind that as soon as he ends up on a team in a 4-3 defense, he'll turn it on and dominate. Can you in good conscience let that happen? I could accept it if we got a high pick in return, but we all know that's not going to happen. Might as well sit on him.[/quote]
No, Haynesworth holds the BELIEF that he's some godly player who can dictate what is best for him and that he has been "wronged"(i.e pulling out the slavery card), and I speculate that he holds his belief on a sacred level like some activists for various causes.

I don't give a shit about the 2 years he MIGHT dominate under whoever decides to adopt the "AH freelances, everyone else sticks to the book", IF there's anyone willing to do that aside from the guy who has Suh to work with. He's at the age where the wear and tear WILL catch up to him, and he will then fade away. What he does has no bearing on us except in the games he plays against us, and in either case, we'll be the "winners" in the end. We beat his team in the games, we show that we don't "need" him". He beats us? He only assists us in securing another 1st round stud. What he does to the other 14-15 teams on his team's schedule for the next two years? I don't give a shit as long as that team beats Dallas.

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d820ab464/article/report-redskins-not-interested-in-releasing-haynesworth?module=HP_headlines]NFL.com news: Report: Redskins not interested in releasing Haynesworth[/url]

[QUOTE]If the Redskins part ways with Haynesworth, they are determined to do so through a trade, according to the newspaper. Shanahan is not interested in cutting a player who's earned roughly $32 million from the Redskins over the past two seasons, only to see him sign with another team.
[/QUOTE]

Attitude or not I totally feel the same way. No way do we pay him $32 mill and let him walk to sign where ever he wants so he has his cake and eat it too. I'd rather he take up that roster spot sitting on the bench all season and occasionally watching fans taunting him just for fun. I want something for my $32 mill.

[QUOTE]The NFL lockout has slowed the Redskins from solving the curious case of Albert Haynesworth, but The Washington Post reported Thursday that coach Mike Shanahan isn't about to accept anything less than a [B]second-round pick [/B]for the pricey defensive lineman.
[/QUOTE]

If the Eagles want to give up that I'd trade him to them. We know how to beat him. Stay away from him for 6 plays, sustain the drive, and AH will take himself out of the game which then we can run all throught the defense. When he comes back in start all over again.

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[quote=Meks;810035]Don't trade him in division, don't allow him to sign with any team he wants by cutting him. Take w.ever we.can get for him. Out of conference would be a plus.[/quote]

[url=http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/43687485/]Albert Haynesworth will be hard to trade? - NFL- NBC Sports[/url]

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[quote=SBXVII;810061][URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d820ab464/article/report-redskins-not-interested-in-releasing-haynesworth?module=HP_headlines"]NFL.com news: Report: Redskins not interested in releasing Haynesworth[/URL]



Attitude or not I totally feel the same way. No way do we pay him $32 mill and let him walk to sign where ever he wants so he has his cake and eat it too. I'd rather he take up that roster spot sitting on the bench all season and occasionally watching fans taunting him just for fun. I want something for my $32 mill.



If the Eagles want to give up that I'd trade him to them. We know how to beat him. Stay away from him for 6 plays, sustain the drive, and AH will take himself out of the game which then we can run all throught the defense. When he comes back in start all over again.[/quote]

Imagine that. An unemotional response, common sense and a level head exercised by the boss.

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On a side note not to get off track..... since this thread was closed....
[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/42266-willie-parker-trashes-redskins-lockeroom.html[/url]

Perhaps someone can call Slow Willie about another one of his teamates making the news because they are soooo focused.

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2011/SPORT/football/07/09/hines.ward.arrest/index.html?hpt=hp_p1&iref=NS1]Agent: NFL star Hines Ward not impaired behind wheel - CNN.com[/url]

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I wouldn't cut him for sure. That is what he wants to happen, so he can get some more money to feed his fat lazy ass. I definitely wouldn't trade him to the Eagles, unless it is something absolutely ridiculous that we can't refuse. I would let him sit on the bench, or man up and play like the whole NFL knows he can. We have a couple of DT that can play, I'd put him exclusively on the end and let him play. RE or LE, I think he can be a very dominant guy.

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[quote=#56fanatic;810132]I wouldn't cut him for sure. That is what he wants to happen, so he can get some more money to feed his fat lazy ass. I definitely wouldn't trade him to the Eagles, unless it is something absolutely ridiculous that we can't refuse. I would let him sit on the bench, or man up and play like the whole NFL knows he can. We have a couple of DT that can play, I'd put him exclusively on the end and let him play. RE or LE, I think he can be a very dominant guy.[/quote]

We should trade him to Eagles for a 1st and conditional 4th that can become a 3rd. LOL. I would love for Shanny to tell the Walrus that just to get a rise out of him.

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For those of you who simply want to cut him, how about you pay me $3,000 to mow your yard, I'll show up when I want, take a couple swipes with the push mower, take a break and lay on the ground for 5 mins., then leave because I'm not interested in pushing a mower through your whole yard. AND I decide to keep your money and look to mow someone else's who has a riding mower.

In a basic sense that's what has happened. Don't tell me you wouldn't try to come after me for the money or try to force me to do what I was paid to do. That's exactly how Snyder must feel. He wants SOMETHING in return. It's idiotic to simply think DS is rich and can handle it so let's just cut the fat fart and be done with him.

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[quote=SBXVII;810141]For those of you who simply want to cut him, how about you pay me $3,000 to mow your yard, I'll show up when I want, take a couple swipes with the push mower, take a break and lay on the ground for 5 mins., then leave because I'm not interested in pushing a mower through your whole yard. AND I decide to keep your money and look to mow someone else's who has a riding mower.

In a basic sense that's what has happened. Don't tell me you wouldn't try to come after me for the money or try to force me to do what I was paid to do. That's exactly how Snyder must feel. He wants SOMETHING in return. It's idiotic to simply think DS is rich and can handle it so let's just cut the fat fart and be done with him.[/quote]

Well if someone told me that you would be a problem if I hired you, I wouldn't have hired you in the first place. If I did hire you, knowing that information, well I deserve to lose the money. Except that this scenario doesn't compare to football, like many other scenarios people try to compare to football.

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[quote=Ruhskins;810166]Well if someone told me that you would be a problem if I hired you, I wouldn't have hired you in the first place. If I did hire you, knowing that information, [B]well I deserve to lose the money[/B]. Except that this scenario doesn't compare to football, like many other scenarios people try to compare to football.[/quote]

That's not factually correct. From a legal perspective, Albert Haynesworth signed a contract with the Washington Redskins. Not with the "Jim Zorns Who Run a 4-3".

He's legally obligated to do what the coaches tell him.

I think it's fair to say the 'Skins were warned that his character isn't great and thus should have been aware that he could be a locker room problem, but there are locker room problems and then there's this. It's not fair to say they should have known that he would flat out ignore his contractual obligations to play whatever the coaches tell him to play.

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[quote=Schneed10;810167]That's not factually correct. From a legal perspective, Albert Haynesworth signed a contract with the Washington Redskins. Not with the "Jim Zorns Who Run a 4-3".

He's legally obligated to do what the coaches tell him.

I think it's fair to say the 'Skins were warned that his character isn't great and thus should have been aware that he could be a locker room problem, but there are locker room problems and then there's this. It's not fair to say they should have known that he would flat out ignore his contractual obligations to play whatever the coaches tell him to play.[/quote]

First, I did say that this scenario is not a good comparison. Second, if you are going to invest $40 mil. to possibly $100 mil. on a player, you better be damn sure things are going to work out, but the team didn't.

In an ideal world, I would want Haynesworth to stay here, learn his lesson, and work things out. But, the team also thought he'd work out coming out of Tenn., and he didn't. I think he's a terrible person and nothing is going to motivate him.

This team also has a history of investing a lot on FAs, not doing their homework on whether they will work out, and then having them fail miserably. And the latest example was McNabb, costing us two draft picks, yet no one is clamoring for him to stay on the roster and work things out. It would actually benefit the team more for McNabb to stay and work things out, yet just about everyone wants him gone from the team (completely and utterly wasting the draft picks).

In the end, [U]nothing good[/U] will come out Haynesworth staying with the team. And there are a lot of positives that will come out if he leaves the team. If you think otherwise you are either a.) way too optimistic thinking that Haynesworth will learn his lesson and work things out b.) care more about this guy "learning his lesson" than anything else c.) you are Dan Snyder.

As I repeatedly say, Vinny's f*ck ups won't be cheap to fix.

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I would package Haynesworth and McNabb to minnesota for a 2nd this year and a 4th next year.

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Minnesota would give us the finger.

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[quote=Monkeydad;810197]Minnesota would give us the finger.[/quote]

Maybe a 2nd overall? McNabb and Haynesworth could make Minnesota a legit team. With Peterson in the backfield and Harvin/ (possibly) Rice/Shancoe/ Rudolph/Berrrian to throw to McNabb could do some damage. Pair up Haynesworth with Jarred Allen and Kevin Williams (let pat retire...he was useless at this point), and that is one unstoppable pass rushing force. 3 guys that command a double team on a line is ridiculous.

Not to mention McNabb would be a great tutor for Ponder. Just look at what he did for Vick in helping him become a pro.

I think McNabb could impact their offense dramatically in the present and the future for helping ponder, and Haynesworth (definitely a risk here) could dramatically improve their defense.

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[quote=skinster;810209]Maybe a 2nd overall? McNabb and Haynesworth could make Minnesota a legit team. With Peterson in the backfield and Harvin/ (possibly) Rice/Shancoe/ Rudolph/Berrrian to throw to McNabb could do some damage. Pair up Haynesworth with Jarred Allen and Kevin Williams (let pat retire...he was useless at this point), and that is one unstoppable pass rushing force. 3 guys that command a double team on a line is ridiculous.

Not to mention McNabb would be a great tutor for Ponder. Just look at what he did for Vick in helping him become a pro.

I think McNabb could impact their offense dramatically in the present and the future for helping ponder, and Haynesworth (definitely a risk here) could dramatically improve their defense.[/quote]

I think Childress was the only McNabb connection. Although there has been talks about McNabb going to Minny, I just don't see it happening. I would say AZ is the best option, given that they just don't have a QB (although only if they lose the Kolb sweepstakes).

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People make it out like it's going to be a big distraction, but it's not. When they sent Keyshawn home for the year (with pay) did you even hear about it anymore? Nope. We don't have to worry about him being around at the start of the season because he is going to be suspended. I can't imagine any scenario where this douche bag isn't suspended for a minimum of 4 games from the league. (he's already had 1 four game susension)

I say we sit his fat ass on the bench or make him inactive if he doesn't want to cooperate and finally suspend him again like last year if it comes down to it. No way we allow him to go to Philly (a division rival) unless they are willing to pay. A 2nd rounder at bare minimum. (which I know they'll never do)

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[quote=CultBrennan59;810192]I would package Haynesworth and McNabb to minnesota for a 2nd this year and a 4th next year.[/quote]

..lol


Only in Madden world bro.

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[quote=NC_Skins;810297]People make it out like it's going to be a big distraction, but it's not. When they sent Keyshawn home for the year (with pay) did you even hear about it anymore? Nope. We don't have to worry about him being around at the start of the season because he is going to be suspended. I can't imagine any scenario where this douche bag isn't suspended for a minimum of 4 games from the league. (he's already had 1 four game susension)

I say we sit his fat ass on the bench or make him inactive if he doesn't want to cooperate and finally suspend him again like last year if it comes down to it. No way we allow him to go to Philly (a division rival) unless they are willing to pay. A 2nd rounder at bare minimum. (which I know they'll never do)[/quote]

With all due respect, we are not the Bucs, and local and national media pretty much feed on stories like this when it comes to the Washington Redskins.

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Haynesworth needs to go.....he can only do harm to the team. He will NEVER do us any good. Ever.

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Doesn't show up to OTAs. Doesn't show up on the practice field. Doesn't show up in games. See a trend here?

[url=http://wtop.com/?nid=41&sid=2453922]Judge scolds Albert Haynesworth's lawyer - WTOP.com[/url]

Now, doesn't show up in court.


[quote]WASHINGTON -- The defense attorney in Albert Haynesworth's misdemeanor sexual abuse trial has been reprimanded by the judge for the Redskins player's absence in court for a preliminary hearing.A. Scott Bolden, Haynesworth's attorney, told D.C. Superior Court Senior Judge Patricia Wynn he believed an earlier ruling specified that Haynesworth was allowed to waive his presence since the case is a misdemeanor.
Haynesworth has been indicted for groping a waitress at the W Hotel. After discussions at the bench about scheduling an Aug. 23 trial date, Bolden told the judge he "will make every effort given the uncertainty of the NFL work stoppage to ensure my client can be here." Wynn made clear she plans the trial will start on time.
"This is his first priority. I would expect he'd be here."


Outside court, Bolden says he was mystified by the judge's comments requiring Haynesworth's presence, but acknowledged prolonging the disagreement would have been useless. Asked if Haynesworth is any closer to a plea bargain, Bolden said, "They haven't made us any new offers, after we rejected the first one." Shortly after his indictment, prosecutors made public a plea offer that would have Haynesworth plead to simple assault. In court, prosecutors said they intended to call ten witnesses in the trial, which is likely to take three days. "Ten witnesses, for a misdemeanor. Apparently that's not too many for the government, when the defendant is Albert Haynesworth. They overcharged it, and they're going to over-try it," Bolden said. [/quote]

I'll be soooo glad when the NFL resumes and Goodell slaps a 4-8 game suspension on his fat ass!!

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Great. Suspend him. It will be easier to keep him and sit his fat ass.

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[quote=NC_Skins;810335]Doesn't show up to OTAs. Doesn't show up on the practice field. Doesn't show up in games. See a trend here?

[url=http://wtop.com/?nid=41&sid=2453922]Judge scolds Albert Haynesworth's lawyer - WTOP.com[/url]

Now, doesn't show up in court.




I'll be soooo glad when the NFL resumes and Goodell slaps a 4-8 game suspension on his fat ass!![/quote]

Looks like it was the lawyer's fault but who cares. I'll be glad when he is off this team and we can move on.

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[quote=NLC1054;810310]With all due respect, we are not the Bucs, and local and national media pretty much feed on stories like this when it comes to the Washington Redskins.[/quote]

Good point, and the Bucs got rid of the him the following season. Once again, I don't get people's obsession with punishment, discipline, and insisting on keeping him on the team.

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[quote=Ruhskins;810342]Good point, and the Bucs got rid of the him the following season. Once again, I don't get people's obsession with punishment, discipline, and insisting on keeping him on the team.[/quote]

Essentially, we're handing him a roster spot while someone competing their ass off to make the team doesn't because of Feigner's shit. I have a problem with that.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;810349]Essentially, we're handing him a roster spot while someone competing their ass off to make the team doesn't because of Feigner's shit. I have a problem with that.[/quote]

If we release Haynesworth and he ends up on the Eagles, what would have a bigger impact on us? That 53rd player's contributions to our team, or Haynesworth's production against us in two games?

I don't give a rat's ass about the 53rd player's feelings. I care about how best to win games. The 53rd player will be a non-contributor. Albert will eventually be dominant again.

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You guys are just wrong on this. There's no other way to say it.

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I give it a couple more weeks and he'll be a Raider or a Raven.

Re: Report claims Redskins won't cut Haynesworth
 

[quote=Schneed10;810356]You guys are just wrong on this. There's no other way to say it.[/quote]

I love you schneed. A redskins fan, a salary cap guy, a realist, and someone not afraid to speak his mind. We would get along real well

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[quote=Alvin Walton;810358]I give it a couple more weeks and he'll be a Raider or a Raven.[/quote]

Raven? You know they run the 3-4, right?