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Swarley 09-12-2011 01:03 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
to be honest, no stat supported his argument that he played lights out.

SirClintonPortis 09-12-2011 01:05 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=mooby;834971][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/30446/total-qbr-review-nfc-east-week-1]Total QBR review: NFC East Week 1 - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

TQBR ratings are out for this week's qb's that have played so far. Guess who had the highest rating in the NFCE? Honestly I didn't think his rating would've been that high, considering the sacks and the fumble, but I'll take it. There's a nice little breakdown in that post.[/quote]

75 or higher is MVP!!!!!

GMScud 09-12-2011 01:25 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=SmootSmack;834885]My next door office neighbor is a huge Giants fan, I keep walking by asking him if he had the chance to see Rex Grossman yesterday

As for not taking today off, I hope it pays off[/quote]

I think it speaks volumes about how far our locker room has come. How do you think CP would feel about forgoing a day off? London Fletcher is without a doubt one of my favorite all-time Redskins.

I think it's great that they're getting in there today and getting a jump on film study.

jbcjr14 09-12-2011 01:29 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
SI, Banks...wrote this piece [url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/don_banks/09/12/redskins.giants.insider/index.html?sct=nfl_t11_a4]Washington Redskins open Week 1 with big win over N.Y. Giants - Don Banks - SI.com[/url]

Jamaican'Skin 09-12-2011 01:30 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
I love the fact that they don't feel like resting on their laurels, but want to get better. I honestly feel sorry for Arizona because this Redskins team is fully focused.

GMScud 09-12-2011 01:40 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=Jamaican'Skin;834999]I love the fact that they don't feel like resting on their laurels, but want to get better. I honestly feel sorry for Arizona because this Redskins team is fully focused.[/quote]

That Arizona team did not look very good against a poor Carolina team. If a rookie can throw for 400+ yards on the road in his first ever NFL game, we should be able to move the ball on them.

Jamaican'Skin 09-12-2011 01:44 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=GMScud;835006]That Arizona team did not look very good against a poor Carolina team. If a rookie can throw for 400+ yards on the road in his first ever NFL game, we should be able to move the ball on them.[/quote]

I know. Rexy should be licking his chops.

Dirtbag59 09-12-2011 01:48 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
I don't get why the Giants are complaining about injuries. They had Piere-Paul, Mathias, and Canty up front. They also had Rolle and Phillips playing safety. Michael Boley was there. Rocky Bernard.

The dropoff from Tuck and Osi isn't really that much with the two guys that played yesterday. In fact I'm pretty sure they only really missed Tuck not Osi. And we can match that loss with Landry not playing. Granted missing two starting corners stinks but like I said they still had two quality safeties and Aaron Ross is a first round corner.

Also lets not forget that Javaris Jenkins is out for the year and we had to settle for Golston on many plays.

Monkeydad 09-12-2011 01:50 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=GMScud;835006]That Arizona team did not look very good against a poor Carolina team. If a rookie can throw for 400+ yards on the road in his first ever NFL game, we should be able to move the ball on them.[/quote]

Plus Hightower is going to be jacked up to face his old team.

Dirtbag59 09-12-2011 01:54 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=Monkeydad;835015]Plus Hightower is going to be jacked up to face his old team.[/quote]

I'm all for Hightower getting 20+ carries but I'm not sure about him having to play 50+ snaps. By my count he may have played as many as 59 and there were situations where Torain's power could have been useful against a stacked boxed. I guess they really think the world of Hightower's pass blocking.


[quote=SirClintonPortis;834988]75 or higher is MVP!!!!![/quote]

And it only took him one week to throw 2 TD passes. Compare that to a certain QB that waited until Week 10's Monday Night Beatdown to throw 2 TD passes then waited till week 14 to do it again.

Monkeydad 09-12-2011 02:01 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=mooby;834971][URL="http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/30446/total-qbr-review-nfc-east-week-1"]Total QBR review: NFC East Week 1 - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/URL]

TQBR ratings are out for this week's qb's that have played so far. Guess who had the highest rating in the NFCE? Honestly I didn't think his rating would've been that high, considering the sacks and the fumble, but I'll take it. There's a nice little breakdown in that post.[/quote]

This is confirmation that ESPN's TQBR is complete trash.

[URL="http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6943920/nfl-week-1-total-qbr-leaders"]NFL -- Week 1 Total QBR Leaders - ESPN[/URL]
[B]
[COLOR=DarkRed]McNabb - 7/15, 39 yds, 1 td, 1 int[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=DarkRed] rates 20.7, ranked 24th
[B]C. McCoy - 19/40, 213 yds, 2 TDs, 1 int[/B] rates 17.6, ranked 25th
[B]Sanchez - 29/44, 335 yds, 2 td, 1 int[/B] rates 17.6, ranked 26th
[B]Cassel - 22/36, 119 yds, [/B][/COLOR][B][COLOR=DarkRed] 1 td, 1 int[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=DarkRed] rates 11.2, ranked 27th[/COLOR]
[COLOR=DarkRed][B]Roethlisberger - 22/41, 280 yds, 1 TD, 3 INT[/B] rates 10.8, ranked 28th
[B]K. Collins - 16/31, 197 yds, 1 TD, 0 int[/B] rates 2.3, ranked 29th[/COLOR]

Seriously, similar completion %s and a QB who throws for 39 yds with 1 TD ranks higher than a QB who throws for 335 and 2 TDs? This "stat" is a joke. It's just an attention ploy for ESPN. They want writers to draw attention to their network by referencing their proprietary, but made-up stat.

12thMan 09-12-2011 02:07 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
Tim Hightower just guranteed a win over the Cards Sunday. He's plenty stoked and not hiding it.

Longtimefan 09-12-2011 02:17 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
I see signs of a team beginning to believe in themselves. An infusion of youth coupled with the opportunity to contribute can be contagious.

Monkeydad 09-12-2011 02:25 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;835018]I'm all for Hightower getting 20+ carries but I'm not sure about him having to play 50+ snaps. By my count he may have played as many as 59 and there were situations where Torain's power could have been useful against a stacked boxed. I guess they really think the world of Hightower's pass blocking.




And it only took him one week to throw 2 TD passes. Compare that to a certain QB that waited until Week 10's Monday Night Beatdown to throw 2 TD passes then waited till week 14 to do it again.[/quote]


I was hoping to see Helu for more than one carry. There were situations in the game where I thought his speed burst could have been beneficial, but I'm not questioning the coaches...Hightower is a #1 RB. He's never had the role all to his own before and he's proving the Cards mis-used him, or underestimated him.

NC_Skins 09-12-2011 02:32 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
Holy shit, Lavar and Dukes giving the Skins mad props today. Even said they were wrong with their views on McNabb (seeing how he shit it up yesterday) and Rex lit it up.


Bandwagon is going to get full fast boys...lol

SBXVII 09-12-2011 02:50 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
This is what I like to hear....

[QUOTE]The red zone was a concern all preseason for the Redskins. On Sunday, the Redskins converted 3-of-4 times inside the Giants 20-yard line on Sunday. The only time they failed to score in the red zone was on Graham Gano’s 39-yard missed field goal.
[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/For-Openers-Redskins-Defeat-Giants-28-14/1f181445-a09f-46be-aad9-59a2a43b20a0]For Openers, Redskins Defeat Giants 28-14[/url]

Longtimefan 09-12-2011 02:54 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=Jontrem;834956]Did you happen to see that thing he did on the sideline with his lips? It looked like he was imitating a horse or something, it had me laughing pretty hard.[/quote]

The old "ball coach" imitation

Giantone 09-12-2011 03:36 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=Mattyk;834887]Of course I love beating Dallas, but beating the Giants is so satisfying just because of all the Giants fans I know. They are seriously hating life today... love it![/quote]

You beat the team you are suppose to beat, and the Giants didn't,the Skins did simple as that .I said it before the Skins D has come together nicely. Facts are facts the Giants played with a depleted team yesterday not an excuse just a fact, alot of young back ups and rookies but still pros and in fact I was impressed by alot of the younger guys ....they didn't do bad. The lack of an off season has hurt Eli,the Giants O will come around but in my opinion in about 3 weeks.Oh and 1 more thing....serously the interception was more a Great play by Kerrigan(sp) then a bad play by Eli,had the tackle done his job the passing lane should have been open.Remember it's not where you start it's where you finish.

Monkeydad 09-12-2011 03:46 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=Giantone;835069]You beat the team you are suppose to beat, and the Giants didn't,the Skins did simple as that .I said it before the Skins D has come together nicely. Facts are facts the Giants played with a depleted team yesterday not an excuse just a fact, alot of young back ups and rookies but still pros and in fact I was impressed by alot of the younger guys ....they didn't do bad. The lack of an off season has hurt Eli,the Giants O will come around but in my opinion in about 3 weeks.Oh and 1 more thing....serously the interception was more a Great play by Kerrigan(sp) then a bad play by Eli,had the tackle done his job the passing lane should have been open.Remember it's not where you start it's where you finish.[/quote]



His ginormous helmet is throwing off his balance. He has lost his accuracy.

[img]http://www.spinmarketsports.com/userdocs/news/Eli_Large.jpg[/img]
[img]http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/4d/fullj.b115dff1514f3ad614de653a6f2c19d1/b115dff1514f3ad614de653a6f2c19d1-getty-505667052.jpg[/img]
[img]http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/9a/fullj.1359eba4fac2c045ad43581908377bbe/1359eba4fac2c045ad43581908377bbe-getty-124720704.jpg[/img]

Giantone 09-12-2011 03:50 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
Looks good to me.

MTK 09-12-2011 03:55 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
This is what he reminds me of with that goofy looking helmet

[IMG]http://exiledonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/3837865507_2f79603bfb.jpg[/IMG]

saden1 09-12-2011 03:57 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=12thMan;835030]Tim Hightower just guranteed a win over the Cards Sunday. He's plenty stoked and not hiding it.[/quote]

What an idiot...just talk about how you're going to play hard and that's it.

GMScud 09-12-2011 03:57 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=Giantone;835069][B]You beat the team you are suppose to beat[/B], and the Giants didn't,the Skins did simple as that .I said it before the Skins D has come together nicely. [B]Facts are facts the Giants played with a depleted team[/B] yesterday not an excuse just a fact, alot of young back ups and rookies but still pros and in fact I was impressed by alot of the younger guys ....they didn't do bad. [B]The lack of an off season has hurt Eli,the Giants O will come around but in my opinion in about 3 weeks[/B].Oh and 1 more thing....serously the interception was more a Great play by Kerrigan(sp) then a bad play by Eli,had the tackle done his job the passing lane should have been open.Remember it's not where you start it's where you finish.[/quote]

Ok hold up. The Skins were [I]supposed[/I] to beat the Giants? Um, no. We hadn't beaten you guys for like 4 years. You have owned us more recently than any other team has. Even with your injuries on defense, no way no how were we [I]supposed [/I]to beat the Giants.

And speaking of those injuries, all the major players you were missing were on the defensive side of the ball. Your offense still had Manning, Bradshaw, Jacobs, Nicks, Manningham, etc, and was playing against our D who has several brand new starters and was without arguably our best defender in Landry. And we shut you guys down.

You say no offseason hurt Eli? What about us? We've got tons of new players on both sides of the ball. We managed ok.

You got manhandled. You can rationalize it anyway you'd like if it makes you feel better, but we kicked your backside. Hard.

Giantone 09-12-2011 03:59 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=Mattyk;835081]This is what he reminds me of with that goofy looking helmet

[IMG]http://exiledonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/3837865507_2f79603bfb.jpg[/IMG][/quote]




If he was like that he would'nt have been sacked as much.

Giantone 09-12-2011 04:04 PM

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[quote=GMScud;835086]
You can rationalize it anyway you'd like if it makes you feel better, but we kicked your backside. Hard.[/quote]

Yes,....yes you did.Now you can sleep better.

GMScud 09-12-2011 04:08 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=Giantone;835088]Yes,....yes you did.Now you can sleep better.[/quote]

Way to ignore the actual substance of my post.

CrustyRedskin 09-12-2011 04:08 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=saden1;835085]What an idiot...just talk about how you're going to play hard and that's it.[/quote]

agreee in full, just shut up and play.

tc2deuce 09-12-2011 04:14 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
let's not make this game our Rams game of 2010!

SBXVII 09-12-2011 04:14 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
Giantone,

I'll give credit where it's due, I don't think your a blind fan running your mouth all the time which is why I respect what you have to say. Also props for showing up, usually opposing team fans don't. But I will say the Skins were not favored in this game from everyone. Everyone had this game going to the Giants. It doesn't matter who was injured the Giants were supposed to win. Call it what everyone wants, a steal or whatever but it was a win. For me the Skins just need to split the division and win some of the other games. But if they beat a division rival twice will just be icing on the cake.

MTK 09-12-2011 04:19 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
A comets blind fan?

That's a new one.

SBXVII 09-12-2011 04:22 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=Mattyk;835098]A comets blind fan?

That's a new one.[/quote]

I think I started to say one thing and changed up. Lol. On top of that I'm typing from and iPod which auto corrects. Lol.

CrustyRedskin 09-12-2011 04:24 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=SBXVII;835097]Giantone,

I'll give credit where it's due, I don't think your a blind fan running your mouth all the time which is why I respect what you have to say. Also props for showing up, usually [B][U]opposing team fans don't.[/U][/B] But I will say the Skins were not favored in this game from everyone. Everyone had this game going to the Giants. It doesn't matter who was injured the Giants were supposed to win. Call it what everyone wants, a steal or whatever but it was a win. For me the Skins just need to split the division and win some of the other games. But if they beat a division rival twice will just be icing on the cake.[/quote]

Sooo true!! Paging Sandtrap Jack!!!!!!!!!!! Has anyone seen Sandtrap Jack?????????? We need a cleanup on the 1 yd line at the Meadow lands!!!!!! Bring a mop and new undies!!!!!

SirClintonPortis 09-12-2011 04:25 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=Monkeydad;835023]This is confirmation that ESPN's TQBR is complete trash.

[URL="http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6943920/nfl-week-1-total-qbr-leaders"]NFL -- Week 1 Total QBR Leaders - ESPN[/URL]
[B]
[COLOR=DarkRed]McNabb - 7/15, 39 yds, 1 td, 1 int[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=DarkRed] rates 20.7, ranked 24th
[B]C. McCoy - 19/40, 213 yds, 2 TDs, 1 int[/B] rates 17.6, ranked 25th
[B]Sanchez - 29/44, 335 yds, 2 td, 1 int[/B] rates 17.6, ranked 26th
[B]Cassel - 22/36, 119 yds, [/B][/COLOR][B][COLOR=DarkRed] 1 td, 1 int[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=DarkRed] rates 11.2, ranked 27th[/COLOR]
[COLOR=DarkRed][B]Roethlisberger - 22/41, 280 yds, 1 TD, 3 INT[/B] rates 10.8, ranked 28th
[B]K. Collins - 16/31, 197 yds, 1 TD, 0 int[/B] rates 2.3, ranked 29th[/COLOR]

Seriously, similar completion %s and a QB who throws for 39 yds with 1 TD ranks higher than a QB who throws for 335 and 2 TDs? This "stat" is a joke. It's just an attention ploy for ESPN. They want writers to draw attention to their network by referencing their proprietary, but made-up stat.[/quote]

McNabb was hot for a very small streak in the first half and he did scramble for some positive plays.

For last 5 minutes or so of the fourth quarter, Sanchez was just really, really bad. Now, I haven't watched the whole Jets-Cowboys game, though.

SBXVII 09-12-2011 04:28 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
^ it was the 1st game for everyone and I think everyone kinda looked ugly.

Giantone 09-12-2011 04:28 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
SBXVII, I respect many many of you guys here , you know your football.Did everyone say the Skins no .....2 out of 5 on Fox thought you could and as a fan of the Giants and the NFC east as I said before what ever can happen usally does.Not down playing anything here it was a nice win for you guys but being realistic it'a 1 of a long seaon and my team is still looking for it's first.

Giantone 09-12-2011 04:29 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=SBXVII;835105]^ it was the 1st game for everyone and I think everyone kinda looked ugly.[/quote]



lol....some way more then others.

saden1 09-12-2011 04:51 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
First game of the season without any significant injuries....i am happy about that.

mooby 09-12-2011 04:53 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=Giantone;835108]lol....some way more then others.[/quote]

Giantone, I will give you credit for showing up and taking your medicine. Real fans do that. At least you didn't bail on the game early, like the 4 Giants fans I sat next to at Fedex yesterday who bailed when Sexy Rexy put the Skins up 14. Good game.

Monkeydad, despite the stats you posted about ESPN's new TQBR, I feel like that's one stat where you can't just look at the numbers and conclusively determine one's impact on a game. That argument might actually work in your favor considering that's what it's supposed to do, but my point is, from the outside, it looks like McNabb had an atrocious game going 7/15 for 39 yards (and we used to think JC was Captain Checkdown lol), but if we paid attention to the game, we'd realize there was probably a good reason why his numbers were that bad.

The Vikes led from the opening kickoff. McNabb's first pass was a great play by Shaun Phillips, and after the Chargers tied the game up McNabb put them up 17-7. So they had a 10 point lead, and really how much reason did they have to pass when they were up 17-7 and also had the best running back in the game? I'll be the first to admit I didn't watch the game, only saw the highlights on NFLN, but McNabb's stats look like a classic case of reading into the numbers too much. Who knows, maybe he tried to get the passing game going in the second half when the Chargers took the lead, but at the end of the day he didn't have a great game and both his TQBR and his normal qb rating reflected that.

saden1 09-12-2011 05:16 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
Besides winning, nothing beats the Cowboys choking.

Like a good Choke Artist, Tony Romo is there.
:rolleyes:

tryfuhl 09-12-2011 05:22 PM

Re: Victory Monday
 
[quote=Giantone;835069]You beat the team you are suppose to beat, and the Giants didn't,the Skins did simple as that .I said it before the Skins D has come together nicely. Facts are facts the Giants played with a depleted team yesterday not an excuse just a fact, alot of young back ups and rookies but still pros and in fact I was impressed by alot of the younger guys ....they didn't do bad. The lack of an off season has hurt Eli,the Giants O will come around but in my opinion in about 3 weeks.Oh and 1 more thing....serously the interception was more a Great play by Kerrigan(sp) then a bad play by Eli,had the tackle done his job the passing lane should have been open.Remember it's not where you start it's where you finish.[/quote]

And the skins were playing pro bowlers?


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