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[quote=SmootSmack;930712]Well I wouldn't be surprised if Helu sits the rest of the preseason. I hear his foot is going to be an issue probably for the year, he's getting second opinions though. He has to decide basically does he battle through it and maybe get surgery in the off-season or does he need the surgery now and potentially miss half the season. Will say more when I know more[/quote]

There is always the Landry option...

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well thats a kick to the nuts. lotta playmaking potential. *door opens for Alfred Morris

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[quote=mbedner3420;930713]There is always the Landry option...[/quote]

Ugh, don't remind us. Isn't a sore Achilles what started Landry's injury problems?

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Is it me, or are there just a ton of injuries to this team this year before they have even played their 2nd preseason game? The Washington Redskins = The Washington Wounded

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[quote=scowan;930717]Is it me, or are there just a ton of injuries to this team this year before they have even played their 2nd preseason game? The Washington Redskins = The Washington Wounded[/quote]

Injuries all over the league, plenty of teams are worse off.

You have to take them with a grain of salt too. If this was the regular season a lot of these guys would still be ready to play come Sunday. This time of year teams play it safe and sit guys out.

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[quote=scowan;930717]Is it me, or are there just a ton of injuries to this team this year before they have even played their 2nd preseason game? The Washington Redskins = The Washington Wounded[/quote]

I'll take the injuries now and not by week 4 of the regular season as was the case last year.

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[quote=Mattyk;930720]Injuries all over the league, plenty of teams are worse off.

You have to take them with a grain of salt too. If this was the regular season a lot of these guys would still be ready to play come Sunday. This time of year teams play it safe and sit guys out.[/quote]

Matty, I hear you, but I'm about to agree with the players. Knock it down to 2 preseason games to get the rust out and figure out who to keep from these other 40+ guys in camp based on practice and scheduled scrimmages with other teams where certian types of hitting or rules are in place to limit the really hard contact. With that being said, our guys are getting hurt in practice not in games.

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It's football, injuries are going to happen. They already greatly reduced the amount of OTA's and contact practices.

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[quote=Mattyk;930725]It's football, injuries are going to happen. They already greatly reduced the amount of OTA's and contact practices.[/quote]Agree 100%, one thing the NFLPA did gain in a big way in the new CBA is limits on OTAs, contact practices, etc.

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[quote=scowan;930717]Is it me, or are there just a ton of injuries to this team this year before they have even played their 2nd preseason game? The Washington Redskins = The Washington Wounded[/quote]


We're in MUCH better shape than most teams. We haven't lost a real star player. Jammal Brown is our biggest-name major injury and that should have been expected.

Kory Lich and Trent are minor, they'll be fine Week 1.


Chargers lost their starting RB Mathews.
Broncos RG Kuper just broke his arm.
Colts LB Angerer broke his foot.
Titans WR Britt still questionable to start the season.
Bears Urlacher just had minor knee scope.
49ers Aldon Smith has some kind of hip injury.
Seahawks WR Sidney Rice hurt his shoulder.
Steelers RB Mendenhall and NT Casey Hampton questionable for Week 1.
Eagles QB Vick hurt his throwing hand, Mike Patterson out indefinitely, Jason Peters out for the year.
Giants have a ton of injuries on D - T. Thomas, Canty, Shaun Rogers.
Saints RB Sproles just did something to his knee.
Cowboys Miles Austin and Mike Jenkins may not be ready Week 1.
Browns RB Trent Richardson is scaring them already.
Ravens Suggs out at least until Week 9.


We've been lucky so far.

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Kory L is coming off major knee surgury...thats not minor.

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Started a new thread with news of Neild's season ending injury, so it doesn't get buried here

Nothing serious with Hankerson. Dehydrated as I said

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[quote=Chico23231;930736]Kory L is coming off major knee surgury...thats not minor.[/quote]

Yeah but his latest scope was minor, I think that's what he was saying

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[quote=scowan;930722]Matty, I hear you, but I'm about to agree with the players. Knock it down to 2 preseason games to get the rust out and figure out who to keep from these other 40+ guys in camp based on practice and scheduled scrimmages with other teams where certian types of hitting or rules are in place to limit the really hard contact. With that being said, our guys are getting hurt in practice not in games.[/quote]

Hasn't the NFL already greatly reduced OTAs and full-contact practices? For a lot of those bubble players, I don't think 2 preseason games are enough to get a good look.

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[quote=Mattyk;930740]Yeah but his latest scope was minor, I think that's what he was saying[/quote]

Yeah, he's expecting to play Week 1.

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Bad day for the Skins...

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Regarding Helu I wish he could stay healthy because he flashes good stuff out there. But you gotta give props to this FO and the coaches for going into every season w/ a RB stable.

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[quote=Chico23231;930714]well thats a kick to the nuts. lotta playmaking potential. [B]*door opens for Alfred Morris[/B][/quote]

That might not be such a bad thing either. I liked what I saw from him against the Bills.

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[quote=Mattyk;930757]That might not be such a bad thing either. I liked what I saw from him against the Bills.[/quote]

It's too bad though, because we needed that speedier, shiftier back that Helu was for us. Not that I'm wishing injury on anyone, but it almost would have been better if this happened to Royster, that way we are replacing him with a RB of similar skill set...

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Gano or Rackers????? Anyone??

I say Rackers

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;930780]Gano or Rackers????? Anyone??

I say Rackers[/quote]

I think Rackers' consistency will win out. Sure didn't sound good for Gano yesterday.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/neil-rackers-bests-graham-gano-in-kicking-drill-monday/2012/08/13/b53de962-e58e-11e1-936a-b801f1abab19_blog.html]Neil Rackers bests Graham Gano in kicking drill Monday - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]

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Offense

QB--Robert Griffin III, Rex Grossman, Kirk Cousins



RB--Evan Royster, Roy Helu Jr., Alfred Morris



FB--Darrell Young



TE--Fred Davis, Chris Cooley, Logan Paulsen



WR--Pierre Garcon, Josh Morgan, Santana Moss, Leonard Hankerson, Brandon Banks, Aldrick Robinson, DezmonBriscoe



OL--Trent Williams, Kory Lichtensteiger, Wil Montgomery, Chris Chester, Tyler Polumbus, Maurice Hurt, Willie Smith, Jammal Brown, Adam Gettis, Josh LeRibeus





Defense

NT--Barry Cofield, Chris Baker



DE--Adam Carriker, Stephen Bowen, Jarvis Jenkins, Doug Worthington



OLB--Brian Orakpo, Ryan Kerrigan, Rob Jackson, Markus White



ILB--London Fletcher, Perry Riley, Lorenzo Alexander, Keenan Robinson



CB--DeAngelo Hall, Josh Wilson, Cedric Griffin, Richard Crawford, Kevin Barnes



S--Brandon Merriweather, Madieu Williams, DeJon Gomes, Tanard Jackson



SP Teams

K-Graham Gano



P-Sav Rocca



LS-Nick Sundberg

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nm........

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How did Keenan Robinson look against the Bills??? I dint get to watch all of it.

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[quote=Mattyk;930782]I think Rackers' consistency will win out. Sure didn't sound good for Gano yesterday.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/neil-rackers-bests-graham-gano-in-kicking-drill-monday/2012/08/13/b53de962-e58e-11e1-936a-b801f1abab19_blog.html]Neil Rackers bests Graham Gano in kicking drill Monday - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url][/quote]

I respect Rackers. But if Gano is pushed hard enough, he will win the kicking contest.

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QB: RGIII, RGI, KC
RB: Hightower, Royster, Helu (morris to PS)
FB: Young
TE: Davis, Cooley, Paul
WR: Garcon, Moss, Morgan, Hankerson, Armstrong, Briscoe
OT: Williams, Polumbus, Black (compton to PS, Brown to IR/retirement)
OG: Lichtensteiger, Chester, Hurt, Gettis (leribeus to PS)
C: Montgomery, Cook (who still sucks)

Total offense: 25

DT: Cofield, Golston, Baker
DE: Carriker, Bowen, Jenkins, Scott (Neild to IR)
OLB: Orakpo, Kerrigan, Wilson, Jackson
ILB: Fletcher, Riley, Alexander, White, Robinson (or kehl and robinson to PS)
FS: Williams, Jackson
SS: Meriweather, Doughty
CB: Hall, Wilson, Griffin, Barnes, Crawford

Total Defense: 25

S/T: gano (maybe), rocca, sundberg

total 53, and 4-5 more on the PS (as noted)

dejon gomes doesn't fit, but i wouldn't be surprised if someone else (like, uh, cook or rex) eats it instead. I think this is a pretty good guess though.

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[quote=That Guy;930908]QB: RGIII, RGI, KC
RB: Hightower, Royster, Helu (morris to PS)
FB: Young
TE: Davis, Cooley, Paul
WR: Garcon, Moss, Morgan, Hankerson, Armstrong, Briscoe
OT: Williams, Polumbus, Black (compton to PS, Brown to IR/retirement)
OG: Lichtensteiger, Chester, Hurt, Gettis (leribeus to PS)
C: Montgomery, Cook (who still sucks)

Total offense: 25

DT: Cofield, Golston, Baker
DE: Carriker, Bowen, Jenkins, Scott (Neild to IR)
OLB: Orakpo, Kerrigan, Wilson, Jackson
ILB: Fletcher, Riley, Alexander, White, Robinson (or kehl and robinson to PS)
FS: Williams, Jackson
SS: Meriweather, Doughty
CB: Hall, Wilson, Griffin, Barnes, Crawford

Total Defense: 25

S/T: gano (maybe), rocca, sundberg

total 53, and 4-5 more on the PS (as noted)

dejon gomes doesn't fit, but i wouldn't be surprised if someone else (like, uh, cook or rex) eats it instead. I think this is a pretty good guess though.[/quote]

Interesting but there is no way Jordan Black who hasn't played in I believe 2 years and coming in at 290 is going to make this team. I'll bet on that one.

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[quote=That Guy;930908]QB: RGIII, RGI, KC
RB: Hightower, Royster, Helu (morris to PS)
FB: Young
TE: Davis, Cooley, Paul
WR: Garcon, Moss, Morgan, Hankerson, Armstrong, Briscoe
OT: Williams, Polumbus, Black (compton to PS, Brown to IR/retirement)
OG: Lichtensteiger, Chester, Hurt, Gettis (leribeus to PS)
C: Montgomery, Cook (who still sucks)

Total offense: 25

DT: Cofield, Golston, Baker
DE: Carriker, Bowen, Jenkins, Scott (Neild to IR)
OLB: Orakpo, Kerrigan, Wilson, Jackson
ILB: Fletcher, Riley, Alexander, White, Robinson (or [B]kehl and robinson to PS[/B])
FS: Williams, Jackson
SS: Meriweather, Doughty
CB: Hall, Wilson, Griffin, Barnes, Crawford

Total Defense: 25

S/T: gano (maybe), rocca, sundberg

total 53, and 4-5 more on the PS (as noted)

dejon gomes doesn't fit, but i wouldn't be surprised if someone else (like, uh, cook or rex) eats it instead. I think this is a pretty good guess though.[/quote]

Kehl Can not be on practice squad. I'm pretty sure it works like this: if you have been on a game active roster (not the 53 man roster but the game day roster) more than 8 times you can no longer be on any PS. Kehl has that in more than one season.

Also, I think they will keep some young draftees on the 53 man roster (i.e. LeRibeus and Morris) because they have to clear waivers before they can be signed to the practice squad.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;930911]Interesting but there is no way Jordan Black who hasn't played in I believe 2 years and coming in at 290 is going to make this team. I'll bet on that one.[/quote]

I think there is no way Black DOESN'T make the team.

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[quote=RedskinsInNYC;930916]I think there is no way Black DOESN'T make the team.[/quote]

THIS. Good talent, nice depth. Plenty of oppurtunity to slide into some injury reps, maybe a solid backup position with our rotating and ever evolving line.

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[quote=Mechanix544;930931]THIS.[B] Good talent[/B], nice depth, [B]nice age[/B]. Plenty of oppurtunity to slide into some injury reps, maybe a solid backup position with our rotating and ever evolving line.[/quote]

Good Age?!? He's about to be 33. And hasn't played in a full year! I don't know what you all are smoking but I need to get me some of that!

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To update my orgiinal prediction:

Jackson makes team at OLB taking spot from Nelid.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;930959]Good Age?!? He's about to be 33. And hasn't played in a full year! I don't know what you all are smoking but I need to get me some of that![/quote]

Yeah, not sure about the nice age comment. My opinion that he will not get cut is based on the sizable role he has seen already in practice/the Bills game. And hey, he's healthy (knock on wood). We can't say that about everyone else.

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[quote=RedskinsInNYC;930962]Yeah, not sure about the nice age comment. My opinion that he will not get cut is based on the sizable role he has seen already in practice/the Bills game. And hey, he's healthy (knock on wood). We can't say that about everyone else.[/quote]

I kinda hope Campbell makes it. High character guy with a lot of untapped potential. Regardless, it would be nice if just one piece of crap we throw against the wall sticks.

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[quote=mbedner3420;930964]I kinda hope Campbell makes it. High character guy with a lot of untapped potential. Regardless, it would be nice if just one piece of crap we throw against the wall sticks.[/quote]

hear, hear.

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[quote=That Guy;930908]QB: RGIII, RGI, KC
RB: Hightower, Royster, Helu (morris to PS)
FB: Young
TE: Davis, Cooley, Paul
WR: Garcon, Moss, Morgan, Hankerson, Armstrong, Briscoe
OT: Williams, Polumbus, Black (compton to PS, Brown to IR/retirement)
OG: Lichtensteiger, Chester, Hurt, Gettis (leribeus to PS)
C: Montgomery, Cook (who still sucks)

Total offense: 25

DT: Cofield, Golston, Baker
DE: Carriker, Bowen, Jenkins, Scott (Neild to IR)
OLB: Orakpo, Kerrigan, Wilson, Jackson
ILB: Fletcher, Riley, Alexander, White, Robinson (or kehl and robinson to PS)
FS: Williams, Jackson
SS: Meriweather, Doughty
CB: Hall, Wilson, Griffin, Barnes, Crawford

Total Defense: 25

S/T: gano (maybe), rocca, sundberg

total 53, and 4-5 more on the PS (as noted)

dejon gomes doesn't fit, but i wouldn't be surprised if someone else (like, uh, cook or rex) eats it instead. I think this is a pretty good guess though.[/quote]

Cook is a cut, McRib will be the back up C.
It will be Robinson to the PS, Kehl makes it
Im praying its Gomes over Reed, but dont think thats gonna happen
Robinson(KR) instead of AA at WR
White to the PS at OLB
Black is a cut, Compton makes it
Alfred Morris makes it, 4 RBs
JB to IR

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[quote=CultBrennan59;930959]Good Age?!? He's about to be 33. And hasn't played in a full year! I don't know what you all are smoking but I need to get me some of that![/quote]

I thought the guy was younger.. I could have swore he was 4th or 5th year........Anywho, 32 isn't ancient or anything, Olineman can have relatively long shelf lives. But we would definitely prefer one of our young guys to outplay him, sure. But in the limited action Ive seen him in when he played for the Jags, he actually did a decent job.

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[quote=SkinItup;930915]Kehl Can not be on practice squad. I'm pretty sure it works like this: if you have been on a game active roster (not the 53 man roster but the game day roster) more than 8 times you can no longer be on any PS. Kehl has that in more than one season.

Also, I think they will keep some young draftees on the 53 man roster (i.e. LeRibeus and Morris) because they have to clear waivers before they can be signed to the practice squad.[/quote]


you misunderstood, i said or kehl (to active) and then robinson to PS (instead of active).

and yes, black will make the team. he's been starting in place fo trent at practice, which means he's in our top three OTs right now, and tere's no way we're going with only 2 on the active roster.

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[quote=Chico23231;930967]Cook is a cut, McRib will be the back up C.
It will be Robinson to the PS, Kehl makes it
Im praying its Gomes over Reed, but dont think thats gonna happen
Robinson(KR) instead of AA at WR
White to the PS at OLB
Black is a cut, Compton makes it
Alfred Morris makes it, 4 RBs
JB to IR[/quote]

the weird thing is if you look at production and playing time, doughty vs gomes is WAY in doughty's favor, even though we're all tired of watching him get beat.

everything is definitely plausible, but i do believe black will probably make it.

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QB- RG3, Grossman, Cousins
RB- Royster, Helu, Morris, Young (Davis PS)
WR- Garson, Hank, Moss, Morgan, Robinson, Brisco (Reilford PS)
TE- David, Paul, Cooley, Paulsen
OT- Williams, Polumbus, Black, Compton (Smith PS)
G/C- Licht, Monty, Chester, Hurt, LeRib, Gettis

NT- Cofield, Baker
DE- Bowen, Carriker, Jenkins, Golston (Worthington PS)
ILB- Fletcher, Riley, LoAx, Robinson
OLB- Orakpo, Kerrigan, Jackson, Kiehl (White PS)
SS- Merriweather, Gomes (Bernstine PS)
FS- Williams, Jackson
CB- Hall, Williams, Barnes, Griffin, Crawford

K- Gano
P- Rocca
LS- Sundberg