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NC_Skins 06-22-2014 07:55 PM

Re: World Cup
 
What horse shit.

Chico23231 06-22-2014 07:55 PM

Re: World Cup
 
USA soccer = tony romo.

Pathetic

Giantone 06-22-2014 08:01 PM

Re: World Cup
 
I don't effing believe it!!!:mad:

NC_Skins 06-22-2014 08:25 PM

Re: World Cup
 
I'm still in disbelief. My dislike for Bradley has grown even stronger since game 1 as well. Yes, Bradley did play much better today, but he was the final guy with the ball in the end. What does he do? He gets it stripped from him like a little bitch, which leads to the final score. All this fucktard had to do was to boot it. That's it. Boot it. Game over. His handling skills are god awful. He also blew his chance to score. Couldn't even score standing in front of the goal with NO goal keeper. :doh:

Klinsman should just bench him.

Giantone 06-22-2014 09:13 PM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=NC_Skins;1074572]I'm still in disbelief. My dislike for Bradley has grown even stronger since game 1 as well. Yes, Bradley did play much better today, but he was the final guy with the ball in the end. What does he do? He gets it stripped from him like a little bitch, which leads to the final score. All this fucktard had to do was to boot it. That's it. Boot it. Game over. His handling skills are god awful. He also blew his chance to score. Couldn't even score standing in front of the goal with NO goal keeper. :doh:

Klinsman should just bench him.[/quote]



There is no one to take Bradley's place and as for the goal it was more of a great save by the defender .

Giantone 06-22-2014 09:14 PM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=Chico23231;1074570]USA soccer = tony romo.

Pathetic[/quote]


Not yet but damn if it's not close!

NC_Skins 06-22-2014 09:25 PM

Re: World Cup
 
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Y7xrNgw.jpg[/IMG]


[url=http://guyism.com/sports/michael-bradley-turnover-leads-to-late-goal.html]Michael Bradley with perhaps the most epic choke job in USMNT history - Guyism[/url]


Look at this shit. Fuck Bradley. Bench him already.

Giantone 06-23-2014 04:22 AM

Re: World Cup
 
Wasn't Bradley fault ,others were in defense also .

skinsfan69 06-23-2014 07:49 AM

Re: World Cup
 
I can't watch soccer for :30 w/out wanting to turn the channel. It's the most brutally boring sport to watch. Just dreadful, World Cup or not. Why is it that no one gives a damn about soccer here 99.9% of the time? Then The World Cup comes and it freakin' crazy. Anyhow just my .02. I watched Michelle Wie win the US Open over soccer.

skinsfan69 06-23-2014 07:51 AM

Re: World Cup
 
Just curious. If The World Cup came on in the fall on a Sunday, would anyone watch over football?

Chico23231 06-23-2014 09:10 AM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1074582]Just curious. If The World Cup came on in the fall on a Sunday, would anyone watch over football?[/quote]

hell to the no and neither would anybody in the country.

i dont know jack about soccer but i think the USA best player is the goalie. He's keeping them in both games.

Giantone 06-23-2014 01:46 PM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1074582]Just curious. If The World Cup came on in the fall on a Sunday, would anyone watch over football?[/quote]


yes ,and in my opinion are better athletes .I love the NFL but if the USA was in the World Cup in the Fall , yes I would watch it over American football .

Giantone 06-23-2014 01:49 PM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=Chico23231;1074585]hell to the no and neither would anybody in the country.

i dont know jack about soccer but i think the USA best player is the goalie. He's keeping them in both games.[/quote]

Erick Howard ,and yes he has played well ,I like Clint Dempsey he did a good job up front by himself yesterday and while there are things you can bitch about with Bradley I still believe he has played ok ,he does have to control the ball better .

SirLK26 06-23-2014 01:55 PM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=Giantone;1074618]yes ,and in my opinion are better athletes .I love the NFL but if the USA was in the World Cup in the Fall , yes I would watch it over American football .[/quote]

Well, yeah... of course [I]you[/I] would because you root for the frickin' Giants. I'd probably watch soccer over my team's QB slinging a hundred picks a game too. :D

Ruhskins 06-23-2014 02:53 PM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1074581]I can't watch soccer for :30 w/out wanting to turn the channel. It's the most brutally boring sport to watch. Just dreadful, World Cup or not. Why is it that no one gives a damn about soccer here 99.9% of the time? Then The World Cup comes and it freakin' crazy. Anyhow just my .02. I watched Michelle Wie win the US Open over soccer.[/quote]

I'm sorry but baseball is more boring. Regular soccer is eh. World Cup soccer is different. But to each their own I guess.

Ruhskins 06-23-2014 02:55 PM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1074582]Just curious. If The World Cup came on in the fall on a Sunday, would anyone watch over football?[/quote]

Depends on the game for some people. Though unless something dramatic happened to either sport, very doubtful this would ever happen.

MTK 06-23-2014 02:57 PM

I'd watch preseason NFL over any World Cup games.

Giantone 06-23-2014 05:14 PM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=SirLK26;1074621]Well, yeah... of course [I]you[/I] would because you root for the frickin' Giants. I'd probably watch soccer over my team's QB slinging a hundred picks a game too. :D[/quote]



Now I would watch a NY Giant super bowl over a world cup match ,just sayin .:headbanger::food-smil

NC_Skins 06-23-2014 08:35 PM

Re: World Cup
 
Ruhskins is right. Watching Premiere League/La Liga/Serie A is totally different than watching the World Cup. Premiere League/La Liga/Serie A is like us watching the our favorite teams in football. Some teams suck, some teams are stacked. Probably won't mean much if you aren't a fan of the sport or one of those teams.

World Cup soccer on the other hand is amazing. The competition is spread throughout the teams and anything can really happen in the games as we've seen so far. When two NFL/NBA/MLB teams play each other, what are they playing for other than a mere "win" in the column? The World Cup is national pride, and it feels great when your home country wins a game against other countries. I've never walked away with the same feeling about a win from the Redskins as I have when the US team wins in the WC. It's not even remotely close. National pride trumps all. The closest would be if the Skins beat the Cowboys to win the division (like 2012) or if they win the SB.


The World Cup TV ratings have surpassed that of the NBA Finals and the World Series. That's saying a lot.

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/24/business/media/bigger-than-baseball-us-portugal-world-cup-match-outdoes-world-series-in-ratings.html?_r=0[/url]



[quote=Mattyk;1074628]I'd watch preseason NFL over any World Cup games.[/quote]

I'm ashamed of you Matty. I expected more.

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You guys need to get together with some friends at a bar and watch a US world cup match. It's electric when the whole place goes apeshit after a score. Sat with a guy who has never watched a WC game until Sunday and he loved it. Knew nothing about it, but walked away being a fan of WC soccer.

skinsfan69 06-23-2014 09:17 PM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=Giantone;1074618]yes ,and in my opinion are better athletes .I love the NFL but if the USA was in the World Cup in the Fall , yes I would watch it over American football .[/quote]

I respect their talent and they have to be in tremendous physical shape. But there is not way the top soccer athlete could touch a top NFL athlete. Do you realize how freakin strong, explosive and fast a guy like AP is? None of the soccer guys (I think) are in his class.

NC_Skins 06-23-2014 10:39 PM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=Giantone;1074618]yes ,and in my opinion are better athletes .[/quote]

[quote=skinsfan69;1074655]I respect their talent and they have to be in tremendous physical shape. But there is not way the top soccer athlete could touch a top NFL athlete. Do you realize how freakin strong, explosive and fast a guy like AP is? None of the soccer guys (I think) are in his class.[/quote]

Listen, this past Sunday, a guy at the bar said the same thing that G1 just said, and I'll tell you both exactly what I told him.

Comparing who's the better athlete between a soccer player and NFL players is like comparing apples to oranges. They specialize in different sports which demand completely different areas of athleticism. One requires strength and short bursts, while the other one requires speed, endurance and agility.

It's like saying who's a better athlete? Usain Bolt or Mo Farah? It's retarded to even compare the two because they are completely different.

I'll tell you what, check this special called Cristiano Ronaldo - Tested To The Limit. You'll walk away amazed at this guy's talent. Not only physically, but mentally. You'll see this guy knock a header in a goal with the lights out. They throw a ball at him, and cut the lights off as soon as the ball is released. He visualizes the ball in the dark and still hits it. The sheer power of his kicks is incredible. Imagine having a soccer ball hit you at 85 mph.

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skinsfan69 06-23-2014 11:46 PM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=NC_Skins;1074663]Listen, this past Sunday, a guy at the bar said the same thing that G1 just said, and I'll tell you both exactly what I told him.

Comparing who's the better athlete between a soccer player and NFL players is like comparing apples to oranges. They specialize in different sports which demand completely different areas of athleticism. One requires strength and short bursts, while the other one requires speed, endurance and agility.

It's like saying who's a better athlete? Usain Bolt or Mo Farah? It's retarded to even compare the two because they are completely different.

I'll tell you what, check this special on called Cristiano Ronaldo - Tested To The Limit. You'll walk away amazed at this guy's talent. Not only physically, but mentally. You'll see this guy knock a header in a goal with the lights out. They throw a ball at him, and cut the lights off as soon as the ball is released. He visualizes the ball in the dark and still hits it.

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If AP trained to be a soccer player he could do it. He could run around with those guys. He may not be able to kick the ball like they do, he may not be able to handle a soccer ball with his feet like they do, but he could easily hang with them running/ cutting wise. Could any of those soccer guys carry the load during a 16 games season? 300 carries? Getting hammered by 250 LB's that run 4.5? Pass protect? I seriously doubt it. He's a notch above those guys as is many other NFL players are. If this guy in the video took a carry in an NFL game he'd get manhandled and probably hurt.

SmootSmack 06-24-2014 12:03 AM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1074667]If AP trained to be a soccer player he could do it. He could run around with those guys. He may not be able to kick the ball like they do, he may not be able to handle a soccer ball with his feet like they do, but he could easily hang with them running/ cutting wise. Could any of those soccer guys carry the load during a 16 games season? 300 carries? Getting hammered by 250 LB's that run 4.5? Pass protect? I seriously doubt it. He's a notch above those guys as is many other NFL players are. If this guy in the video took a carry in an NFL game he'd get manhandled and probably hurt.[/quote]

Spoken like someone who admittedly has no real knowledge or respect for the sport of soccer

JoeRedskin 06-24-2014 05:49 AM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1074667]If AP trained to be a soccer player he could do it. He could run around with those guys. [B]He may not be able to kick the ball like they do, he may not be able to handle a soccer ball with his feet like they do, but he could easily hang with them running/ cutting wise.[/B] Could any of those soccer guys carry the load during a 16 games season? 300 carries? Getting hammered by 250 LB's that run 4.5? Pass protect? I seriously doubt it. He's a notch above those guys as is many other NFL players are. If this guy in the video took a carry in an NFL game he'd get manhandled and probably hurt.[/quote]

Well, if it's just "running around" on the field, hell, if I was in my 20's and busted my ass, I could eventually "run around with those guys."

The things soccer players do with their bodies and their ability to control the ball without their hands is, however, the crux of it. Half the things some of these guys can do with their feet, AP couldn't do with his hands - I don't care how much training he has. The athleticism of some of these soccer players is amazing.

skinsfan69 06-24-2014 09:50 AM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=SmootSmack;1074668]Spoken like someone who admittedly has no real knowledge or respect for the sport of soccer[/quote]

Um wrong. If you read my post I do respect the talent and the ability of soccer players. They're great athletes. I just don't put them on the level of some of the top NFL players. That's not being disrespectful by any means. I did say it's painful to watch but that's just me. Some of my Euro friends say the same thing about football.

skinsfan69 06-24-2014 09:53 AM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1074669]Well, if it's just "running around" on the field, hell, if I was in my 20's and busted my ass, I could eventually "run around with those guys."

The things soccer players do with their bodies and their ability to control the ball without their hands is, however, the crux of it. Half the things some of these guys can do with their feet, AP couldn't do with his hands - I don't care how much training he has. The athleticism of some of these soccer players is amazing.[/quote]

Could you run and cut like AP can? I seriously doubt it. I'm using him as an example as I'm trying to say he could hang with those guys in that area. But can they do what he does? Are they as physically explosive and powerful as he is? I just don't think so.

MTK 06-24-2014 09:54 AM

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1074663]Listen, this past Sunday, a guy at the bar said the same thing that G1 just said, and I'll tell you both exactly what I told him.



Comparing who's the better athlete between a soccer player and NFL players is like comparing apples to oranges. They specialize in different sports which demand completely different areas of athleticism. One requires strength and short bursts, while the other one requires speed, endurance and agility.



It's like saying who's a better athlete? Usain Bolt or Mo Farah? It's retarded to even compare the two because they are completely different.



I'll tell you what, check this special on called Cristiano Ronaldo - Tested To The Limit. You'll walk away amazed at this guy's talent. Not only physically, but mentally. You'll see this guy knock a header in a goal with the lights out. They throw a ball at him, and cut the lights off as soon as the ball is released. He visualizes the ball in the dark and still hits it.



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Agreed, it's apples and oranges. Trying to make a direct comparison is silly.

NC_Skins 06-24-2014 10:57 AM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1074667]If AP trained to be a soccer player he could do it. He could run around with those guys. He may not be able to kick the ball like they do, he may not be able to handle a soccer ball with his feet like they do, but he could easily hang with them running/ cutting wise. Could any of those soccer guys carry the load during a 16 games season? 300 carries? Getting hammered by 250 LB's that run 4.5? Pass protect? I seriously doubt it. He's a notch above those guys as is many other NFL players are. If this guy in the video took a carry in an NFL game he'd get manhandled and probably hurt.[/quote]

You say you respect their talent, but then you say something like this. When AP plays a football game BOTH(offense/defense) ways, without any stoppage in the game except the half, get back with me. Soccer players have to play 45 min halves without any timeouts or stoppage. No commercial timeouts. No water breaks. A player the size of AP wouldn't be able to last that long.

Ever wonder why you don't see any muscular guys winning long distance marathons? I think it's easy to see that the extra weight hinders them in their endurance. Cristiano Ronaldo is the same height as AP. AP weighs 217 lbs compared to Ronaldo's 175 lbs. Messi is 5'7" weighing at 148lbs. The average weight is around 160-170lbs for most professional soccer players. Sure, AD and Chris Johnson would smoke them down the field about two times, and be gassed the rest of the 85 minutes. Hell, how fast would AD be if he were actually having to move a ball as well?


Let's add in the fact these guys are dribbling a ball at full speed for long periods of time, with people trying to take the ball away from them as well.

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That said, you simply can't compare the two athletes because they are completely different. If you think AD can simply train to be a soccer player, than you really are clueless.

SirLK26 06-24-2014 11:02 AM

Re: World Cup
 
Humor author/columnist Tom Purcell says it well in one of his latest books.

[quote]Yeah, and what’s with the falling down and writhing in pain every two minutes? I’d rather spend five seconds watching an NFL running back pound through a bunch of beefy guys to score six points than spend 90 minutes watching a bunch of skinny, crafty guys moan every time somebody touches them.” [/quote]

And...

[quote]Now you’re talking. In fact, if the World Cup people wanted more Americans to tune in, they ought to turn their cameras away from the field and point them on the stands.”

...

“Yeah, watching a bunch of guys trying to brawl after sucking down a dozen Heinekens is more entertaining that what is happening on the field. Americans would pay good money to see that.”[/quote]

Sorry, soccer fans. I realize that's pretty blatant stereotyping. :D

To be honest, I've never really given soccer a chance, because it just doesn't appeal to me. I respect endurance, and their ball-handling moves are incredible, but I like the raw strength, speed, and toughness of NFL players.

NC_Skins 06-24-2014 11:10 AM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=SirLK26;1074684]Humor author/columnist Tom Purcell says it well in one of his latest books.



And...



Sorry, soccer fans. I realize that's pretty blatant stereotyping. :D

To be honest, I've never really given soccer a chance, because it just doesn't appeal to me. I respect endurance, and their ball-handling moves are incredible, but I like the raw strength, speed, and toughness of NFL players.[/quote]


Yeah, it doesn't happen in the NBA or NFL. :Flush:


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Chico23231 06-24-2014 11:19 AM

Re: World Cup
 
One thing I've notice some pretty amazing smokin hot female fans in the stands for the World Cup. I've been impressed.

NC_Skins 06-24-2014 11:43 AM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=Chico23231;1074686]One thing I've notice some pretty amazing smokin hot female fans in the stands for the World Cup. I've been impressed.[/quote]

[url=http://worldcupgirls.net/]World Cup Girls -- Girls of the FIFA World Cup tournaments[/url]


Just for you.

skinsfan69 06-24-2014 12:20 PM

Re: World Cup
 
[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1074683]You say you respect their talent, but then you say something like this. [B]When AP plays a football game BOTH(offense/defense) ways, without any stoppage in the game except the half, get back with me. Soccer players have to play 45 min halves without any timeouts or stoppage. No commercial timeouts. No water breaks. A player the size of AP wouldn't be able to last that long.
[/B]
Ever wonder why you don't see any muscular guys winning long distance marathons? I think it's easy to see that the extra weight hinders them in their endurance. Cristiano Ronaldo is the same height as AP. AP weighs 217 lbs compared to Ronaldo's 175 lbs. Messi is 5'7" weighing at 148lbs. The average weight is around 160-170lbs for most professional soccer players. Sure, AD and Chris Johnson would smoke them down the field about two times, and be gassed the rest of the 85 minutes. Hell, how fast would AD be if he were actually having to move a ball as well?


Let's add in the fact these guys are dribbling a ball at full speed for long periods of time, with people trying to take the ball away from them as well.

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That said, you simply can't compare the two athletes because they are completely different. If you think AD can simply train to be a soccer player, than you really are clueless.[/QUOTE

I agree... but I said that if AP TRAINED for soccer he could probably do it and get down to around 180lbs or so. Chris Johnson is another guy that could probably do it. Their training would be more for endurance. Now the skill part of it is a different story and that's what's in these videos. Handling the ball with your feet and so forth, they'd obviously have serious issues there as that's a skill that's developed over time. But we're talking about who's the better athlete.

Chico23231 06-24-2014 01:09 PM

Re: World Cup
 
[url=http://www.espnfc.com/fifa-world-cup/story/1907973/us-coach-jurgen-klinsmann-says-jozy-altidore-out-vs-germanymatt-besler-in]U.S. coach Jurgen Klinsmann says Jozy Altidore out vs. Germany, Matt Besler in - ESPN FC[/url]

damn

SmootSmack 06-24-2014 02:43 PM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1074690][QUOTE=NC_Skins;1074683]You say you respect their talent, but then you say something like this. [B]When AP plays a football game BOTH(offense/defense) ways, without any stoppage in the game except the half, get back with me. Soccer players have to play 45 min halves without any timeouts or stoppage. No commercial timeouts. No water breaks. A player the size of AP wouldn't be able to last that long.
[/B]
Ever wonder why you don't see any muscular guys winning long distance marathons? I think it's easy to see that the extra weight hinders them in their endurance. Cristiano Ronaldo is the same height as AP. AP weighs 217 lbs compared to Ronaldo's 175 lbs. Messi is 5'7" weighing at 148lbs. The average weight is around 160-170lbs for most professional soccer players. Sure, AD and Chris Johnson would smoke them down the field about two times, and be gassed the rest of the 85 minutes. Hell, how fast would AD be if he were actually having to move a ball as well?


Let's add in the fact these guys are dribbling a ball at full speed for long periods of time, with people trying to take the ball away from them as well.

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That said, you simply can't compare the two athletes because they are completely different. If you think AD can simply train to be a soccer player, than you really are clueless.[/QUOTE

I agree... but I said that if AP TRAINED for soccer he could probably do it and get down to around 180lbs or so. Chris Johnson is another guy that could probably do it. Their training would be more for endurance. Now the skill part of it is a different story and that's what's in these videos. Handling the ball with your feet and so forth, they'd obviously have serious issues there as that's a skill that's developed over time. But we're talking about who's the better athlete.[/quote]

NFL players can train to be soccer players, but soccer players can't train to be NFL players? Kickers excluded

NC_Skins 06-24-2014 02:46 PM

Re: World Cup
 
Italians got robbed by the refs with the no call on Suarez. A red card for Marchisio , for nothing for Suarez, who bit Chiellini.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ZDYPtF6.jpg[/IMG]

[url=http://www.espnfc.us/fifa-world-cup/story/1909019/uruguays-luis-suarez-appears-to-bite-italys-giorgio-chiellini]Uruguay's Luis Suarez appears to bite Italy's Giorgio Chiellini - ESPN FC[/url]


FIFA needs to suspend him for the rest of the World Cup. Fuck this guy. It's his third incident with biting, and lets not forget his handball that cost Ghana a trip to the semi-final. The guy is a all around piece of shit and has no business in this profession.


After looking at it again, that red card on Marchisio was legit.

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JoeRedskin 06-24-2014 03:59 PM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1074690]I agree... but I said that if AP TRAINED for soccer he could probably do it and get down to around 180lbs or so. Chris Johnson is another guy that could probably do it. Their training would be more for endurance. Now the skill part of it is a different story and that's what's in these videos. Handling the ball with your feet and so forth, they'd obviously have serious issues there as that's a skill that's developed over time. [B]But we're talking about who's the better athlete.[/B][/quote]

B/c the muscular coordination, vision, dexterity, short area quickness, and foot speed of soccer players soccer players has nothing to do with their athleticism.

NC_Skins 06-24-2014 05:56 PM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=Chico23231;1074695][url=http://www.espnfc.com/fifa-world-cup/story/1907973/us-coach-jurgen-klinsmann-says-jozy-altidore-out-vs-germanymatt-besler-in]U.S. coach Jurgen Klinsmann says Jozy Altidore out vs. Germany, Matt Besler in - ESPN FC[/url]

damn[/quote]

Jozy is going to be gone the rest of the WC.

MTK 06-24-2014 06:29 PM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=Chico23231;1074686]One thing I've notice some pretty amazing smokin hot female fans in the stands for the World Cup. I've been impressed.[/quote]

Well it is Brazil

EARTHQUAKE2689 06-25-2014 07:54 AM

Re: World Cup
 
[quote=Mattyk;1074628]I'd watch preseason NFL over any World Cup games.[/quote]

And we have a winner.


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