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2013 Ford Fusion

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Toyota loyal. 2012 Camry XLE Hybrid and 2018 Highlander XLE. Before that a 2007 Sienna that my wife drove for 10+ years.

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[QUOTE=kct1975;1194847]2013 Ford Fusion

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2015 Titanium for me, bummed that Ford is phasing out the Fusion

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2013 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport


2007 camry LX

....in eight months the camry will be traded in ,I get the Santa Fe and the Mrs gets a New vehicle.

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[quote=Chico23231;1194805]2015 GMC Sierra 4X4 Z71 Package Black...haven't had a truck in 15 years. Had to get one[/quote]

Son inlaw(the Marine) has the same truck but in Red with a crew cab ,he loves it!

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[quote=Giantone;1194851]Son inlaw(the Marine) has the same truck but in Red with a crew cab ,he loves it![/quote]

Man I’ve missed it. Really like the ride...rides heavy....got a lil tow, looking to get a small rv. The interior is nice.

I tested the f150s but the Sierra was a better ride. I really like the dodge big horn...nice ride and space in the cab is great.

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[quote=Chico23231;1194853]Man I’ve missed it. Really like the ride...rides heavy....got a lil tow, looking to get a small rv. The interior is nice.

I tested the f150s but the Sierra was a better ride. I really like the dodge big horn...nice ride and space in the cab is great.[/quote]

LOL, the :other son in law(Army) who is on way home from Afghanistan right now loves Dodge and had sold his old one (almost 12 years old) before he left and plains on getting a new Dodge 1500 ram when he gets home. I would love a truck but as long as these two have one ....I don't need one.

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[url=http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/tesla-in-autopilot-mode-crashes-into-california-police-car/ar-AAxZYLB?ocid=ientp]Tesla in Autopilot mode crashes into California police car[/url]

Im gonna place this here...but this whole autopilot thing is scary right?

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1194966][url=http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/tesla-in-autopilot-mode-crashes-into-california-police-car/ar-AAxZYLB?ocid=ientp]Tesla in Autopilot mode crashes into California police car[/url]



Im gonna place this here...but this whole autopilot thing is scary right?[/QUOTE]


Scarier than real drivers? In the long run this technology may never be perfect but it will definitely be more safe.

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[quote=MTK;1194970]Scarier than real drivers? In the long run this technology may never be perfect but it will definitely be more safe.[/quote]

I keep saying all it will take is one experimental town to go all auto-pilot, and then you will see the statistics over ten years compared to the previous ten years. Then 5 towns will adopt, then 1 major city will adopt, etc. Wont be in the next 10 years, but probably within the next twenty or so.

I know it's hard to accept letting go of control, but at the end of the day if we reduce car fatalities by 10%, then it's worth it. I anticipate the numbers will be more like 95+%... but we will see what happens.

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15 Subaru legacy with AWD. Absolute tank in the snow. I now own it and hopefully will for ten years. They hold their value better than most others. Great on gas. Nice stereo. Just wish i had gone with a dark interior. More stains than your oldest pair of underwear!

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[quote=punch it in;1194973]15 Subaru legacy with AWD. Absolute tank in the snow. I now own it and hopefully will for ten years. They hold their value better than most others. Great on gas. Nice stereo. Just wish i had gone with a dark interior. More stains than your oldest pair of underwear![/quote]

Sister and he family have had two and loved them !

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1194980]Sister and he family have had two and loved them ![/QUOTE]



I worked inside a Subaru dealership for three years and after three years I realized I never heard anything bad about them. It was like a cult. Lol. Said there has to be something about a Subaru. Wife has had two foresters and loves them. Really a good safe car.

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Gas Stations love me. 2008 Yukon XL and a 2006 Mercury Mountaineer. Neither one gets over 14 MPG on average.

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Just paid off my Fusion so I think I'm going to enjoy having no car payment for a while. Haven't gone without a car payment since college I think.

Thinking my next car in a few years may be a Tesla, got my eye on the Model 3 specifically. Anyone here have a Tesla?

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[quote=MTK;1251897]Just paid off my Fusion so I think I'm going to enjoy having no car payment for a while. Haven't gone without a car payment since college I think.

Thinking my next car in a few years may be a Tesla, got my eye on the Model 3 specifically. Anyone here have a Tesla?[/quote]

My roommate/landlord just bought one. I believe he said he paid like 90K. Wowsers!! I'm assuming this is on the high end, but I don't know for sure. Any Tesla is above my current pay grade.

I just bought my 2016 Ford Edge in October. No car payment sounds awesome. Only like 4 more years lol.

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The base model 3 starts at $39k, but the one I'd want would be about $50k. Time to start saving.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1251898]My roommate/landlord just bought one. I believe he said he paid like 90K. Wowsers!! I'm assuming this is on the high end, but I don't know for sure. Any Tesla is above my current pay grade.

I just bought my 2016 Ford Edge in October. No car payment sounds awesome. Only like 4 more years lol.[/quote]

I rode in a Tesla Model 3 back in Boston a couple years ago, the big things I noticed:

- It's super quiet, like no noise whatsoever aside from the tires on the road, obviously because it's battery powered

- Very responsive, plenty of power (as a semi-aggressive driver it would suit me fine)

- The tech is amazing, everything on the dash (i.e. radio/navi/climate control) runs through the Ipad or (whatever equivalent Tesla uses). Even the exterior door handles are electronic, you just touch them and the door opens. And obviously the big one is self-driving but I didn't witness it happening so I'm not sure if that's fully capable yet.

My current car is a 2018 Civic EX-T, don't buy any Civic with the 1.5T in it. I fell for the glitz because my old car was a Corolla that I drove for 10 years until I lost 2 cylinders thanks to valve damage and an intake gasket leak. When you drive a new car after your old one can barely make it up a hill everything seems powerful in comparison.

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Trucks…I’m thinking about getting another.

Any Dodge Ram drivers, you like your ride? Any complaints? I’m looking at a 2020

I’ve owned one Chevy and now a GMC Sierra. I’ve enjoyed both, but Sierra’s have gotten fucking ridiculous

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Anyone got advice for buying a new car? For the last 20+ years I just bought directly from my brother who sold Fords, so now I'm on my own. Been reading up on how to approach a dealership, things like getting pre-approved before going in, focus on the "out the door" number vs monthly payment, don't talk trade-in until the end, etc. Anything else I should have in mind?

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[quote=MTK;1361160]Anyone got advice for buying a new car? For the last 20+ years I just bought directly from my brother who sold Fords, so now I'm on my own. Been reading up on how to approach a dealership, things like getting pre-approved before going in, focus on the "out the door" number vs monthly payment, don't talk trade-in until the end, etc. Anything else I should have in mind?[/quote]

dont by new

let someone else take the new car depreciation; anything under 30k just needed maybe 3 oil changes; check car fax

i wouldn't get a Ford

what do you want

i also find they like to stick to the price on the car they are selling you and play with your trade in

you will get the most wiggle room on a used car deal, new cars they make very little on, its all about volume of new cars for them

do not pay MARK UPs if you want a popular car keep searching or find something different; the mark ups will put you upside down in a heart beat

toyota or honda for me

i like the RAV4 Hybrd or the RAV4 Prime, its pricey the prime

i drive a 4Runner zero issues i have had two in my life zero issues, had a 2020 explore for i think 2 months, traded it in so fast, poop on wheels

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I have two Hyundai Santa Fe's . First it's really is the best warranty in the business. Both have been extremely good and reliable for us. All I can tell you is do your homework before you go in there. If you're not sure then test drive the cars you're interested in.

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[quote=mredskins;1361161]dont by new

let someone else take the new car depreciation; anything under 30k just needed maybe 3 oil changes; check car fax

i wouldn't get a Ford

what do you want

i also find they like to stick to the price on the car they are selling you and play with your trade in

you will get the most wiggle room on a used car deal, new cars they make very little on, its all about volume of new cars for them

do not pay MARK UPs if you want a popular car keep searching or find something different; the mark ups will put you upside down in a heart beat

toyota or honda for me

i like the RAV4 Hybrd or the RAV4 Prime, its pricey the prime

i drive a 4Runner zero issues i have had two in my life zero issues, had a 2020 explore for i think 2 months, traded it in so fast, poop on wheels[/quote]

I'm looking at a Lexus ES 300H. Yeah I know buying used is smarter but fuck it, this was supposed to be my 50th birthday present for myself back in 2022 but with covid and the supply issue with cars I put it off until now. I haven't had a car payment in 4 years so I've been saving that money. I plan on keeping this car for the next 10 years.

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[quote=MTK;1361165]I'm looking at a Lexus ES 300H. Yeah I know buying used is smarter but fuck it, this was supposed to be my 50th birthday present for myself back in 2022 but with covid and the supply issue with cars I put it off until now. I haven't had a car payment in 4 years so I've been saving that money. I plan on keeping this car for the next 10 years.[/quote]

Good vehicle The way we work it I buy the Mrs. a new one every5-6 years and I take her old one which with Hyundai is still under warranty. She puts around 6-7 thousand mi a year.

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[quote=MTK;1361165]I'm looking at a Lexus ES 300H. Yeah I know buying used is smarter but fuck it, this was supposed to be my 50th birthday present for myself back in 2022 but with covid and the supply issue with cars I put it off until now. I haven't had a car payment in 4 years so I've been saving that money. I plan on keeping this car for the next 10 years.[/quote]

Sounds good , both my runners I got new knowing I keep them a long time , if you are need something new every 3 years like my wife , lease or used

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[quote=MTK;1361160]Anyone got advice for buying a new car? For the last 20+ years I just bought directly from my brother who sold Fords, so now I'm on my own. Been reading up on how to approach a dealership, things like getting pre-approved before going in, focus on the "out the door" number vs monthly payment, don't talk trade-in until the end, etc. Anything else I should have in mind?[/quote]

There's an argument to be made for used and new - new cars depreciate quickly. But if you plan on buying a car and making it last for 10+ years go for new - with a used car you have no idea how the previous owner drove it or why they sold it with presumably low miles.

Go get a car loan from your bank and take that to the dealership and let them convince you to finance through the manufacturer for a better rate - I got offered 2.9% from Navy Federal back in 2018 and I flipped that for 1.9% from Honda. Definitely focus on the out-the-door cost vs monthly payment - they will ask you what you want your montly payment to be and you should just tell them you want your OTD cost to be under x instead because they can do that funny math in a hurry to get you to sign. You've hit the good spots - don't talk trade in until the end because they will always try to low ball you. Treat it like a separate transaction. Actually take your car to Carmax first and get them to give you an offer then when you go to buy a car see if the dealership can beat that offer. Also never take the first offer - get it in writing and take it to another dealer and see if they can beat it.

Personal manufacturer rankings are subjective - for me it was always Toyota and Honda 1a and 1b. Now that I have a Civic that I bought brand new and it has 140k miles on it and I've witnessed firsthand the shit quality of certain aspects (battery died after 40k miles and the warranty only covered it to 36k, I've had 3 axles put in it under warranty because the boot keeps tearing and they're still having issues) I'm pretty jaded towards Honda. I think they're living off their reputation from the 90's. Going back to Toyota for my next car.

I also have the luxury of working on a fleet with 6k vehicles and most of our light duty units are Ford, Chevy, and Dodge - I'm jaded for life after working on these shitboxes. I would rank them Ford then Chevy then Dodge - Dodge has powertrain issues out the ass. We have Chargers, Caravans, Pacificas, Rams and they all have suspension and powertrain issues. Chevy is better but not by much. We're predominantly a Ford fleet and they have all kinds of issues from electronics in the new models to suspension/powertrain/etc issues in the older ones (but I also work on police cars and they beat the piss out of those). I don't think I'll ever buy domestic again unless it's an old shitbox that I can fix up and keep as a basic beater.

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[quote=MTK;1361165]I'm looking at a Lexus ES 300H. Yeah I know buying used is smarter but fuck it, this was supposed to be my 50th birthday present for myself back in 2022 but with covid and the supply issue with cars I put it off until now. I haven't had a car payment in 4 years so I've been saving that money. I plan on keeping this car for the next 10 years.[/quote]

Good call - Lexus is top of the [URL="https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2024-us-vehicle-dependability-study-vds"]reliability rankings[/URL] by a wide margin.

And if you plan on keeping it for 10 years obviously you want something with low miles. I would go for new too. Also once you get into finance if they don't sell the car with extended warranty see if you can haggle them down - I haggled down the 100k full coverage warranty from $2800 to $1k when I bought my Civic new in 2018.

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[quote=mooby;1361168]There's an argument to be made for used and new - new cars depreciate quickly. But if you plan on buying a car and making it last for 10+ years go for new - with a used car you have no idea how the previous owner drove it or why they sold it with presumably low miles.

Go get a car loan from your bank and take that to the dealership and let them convince you to finance through the manufacturer for a better rate - I got offered 2.9% from Navy Federal back in 2018 and I flipped that for 1.9% from Honda. Definitely focus on the out-the-door cost vs monthly payment - they will ask you what you want your montly payment to be and you should just tell them you want your OTD cost to be under x instead because they can do that funny math in a hurry to get you to sign. You've hit the good spots - don't talk trade in until the end because they will always try to low ball you. Treat it like a separate transaction. Actually take your car to Carmax first and get them to give you an offer then when you go to buy a car see if the dealership can beat that offer. Also never take the first offer - get it in writing and take it to another dealer and see if they can beat it.

Personal manufacturer rankings are subjective - for me it was always Toyota and Honda 1a and 1b. Now that I have a Civic that I bought brand new and it has 140k miles on it and I've witnessed firsthand the shit quality of certain aspects (battery died after 40k miles and the warranty only covered it to 36k, I've had 3 axles put in it under warranty because the boot keeps tearing and they're still having issues) I'm pretty jaded towards Honda. I think they're living off their reputation from the 90's. Going back to Toyota for my next car.

I also have the luxury of working on a fleet with 6k vehicles and most of our light duty units are Ford, Chevy, and Dodge - I'm jaded for life after working on these shitboxes. I would rank them Ford then Chevy then Dodge - Dodge has powertrain issues out the ass. We have Chargers, Caravans, Pacificas, Rams and they all have suspension and powertrain issues. Chevy is better but not by much. We're predominantly a Ford fleet and they have all kinds of issues from electronics in the new models to suspension/powertrain/etc issues in the older ones (but I also work on police cars and they beat the piss out of those). I don't think I'll ever buy domestic again unless it's an old shitbox that I can fix up and keep as a basic beater.[/quote]

a dead battery and multiple torn cv boots is not bad for 140k

my first runner the rear differential went out at 50K ; when they went to fix it they said it had half the required gear oil and that shit was built in japan

shit happens even to the best of the best

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[quote=mooby;1361168]There's an argument to be made for used and new - new cars depreciate quickly. But if you plan on buying a car and making it last for 10+ years go for new - with a used car you have no idea how the previous owner drove it or why they sold it with presumably low miles.

[B]Go get a car loan from your bank and take that to the dealership and let them convince you to finance through the manufacturer for a better rate - I got offered 2.9% from Navy Federal back in 2018 and I flipped that for 1.9% from Honda. Definitely focus on the out-the-door cost vs monthly payment - they will ask you what you want your montly payment to be and you should just tell them you want your OTD cost to be under x instead because they can do that funny math in a hurry to get you to sign. You've hit the good spots - don't talk trade in until the end because they will always try to low ball you. Treat it like a separate transaction. Actually take your car to Carmax first and get them to give you an offer then when you go to buy a car see if the dealership can beat that offer. Also never take the first offer - get it in writing and take it to another dealer and see if they can beat it.
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Personal manufacturer rankings are subjective - for me it was always Toyota and Honda 1a and 1b. Now that I have a Civic that I bought brand new and it has 140k miles on it and I've witnessed firsthand the shit quality of certain aspects (battery died after 40k miles and the warranty only covered it to 36k, I've had 3 axles put in it under warranty because the boot keeps tearing and they're still having issues) I'm pretty jaded towards Honda. I think they're living off their reputation from the 90's. Going back to Toyota for my next car.

I also have the luxury of working on a fleet with 6k vehicles and most of our light duty units are Ford, Chevy, and Dodge - I'm jaded for life after working on these shitboxes. I would rank them Ford then Chevy then Dodge - Dodge has powertrain issues out the ass. We have Chargers, Caravans, Pacificas, Rams and they all have suspension and powertrain issues. Chevy is better but not by much. We're predominantly a Ford fleet and they have all kinds of issues from electronics in the new models to suspension/powertrain/etc issues in the older ones (but I also work on police cars and they beat the piss out of those). I don't think I'll ever buy domestic again unless it's an old shitbox that I can fix up and keep as a basic beater.[/quote]

that is great advice and what i usually do, i was thinking to add that

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this guy is the go to guy for Toyota/ lexus

[url]https://www.youtube.com/@TheCarCareNut[/url]

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[quote=mooby;1361169]Good call - Lexus is top of the [URL="https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2024-us-vehicle-dependability-study-vds"]reliability rankings[/URL] by a wide margin.

And if you plan on keeping it for 10 years obviously you want something with low miles. I would go for new too. Also once you get into finance if they don't sell the car with extended warranty see if you can haggle them down - I haggled down the 100k full coverage warranty from $2800 to $1k when I bought my Civic new in 2018.[/quote]
Can't argue Toyota or Honda . Kid had a Honda Accord she drove to CA in spent 7 years there and drove it back. Only thing done was tires ,brakes, Battery and wipers oil changes. The Mrs and I have had 4 Toyotas over the years , 2 Corolla and 2 Camry's. Switched to Hyundai when she wanted something higher and more storage. Again the Warranty sold it for me over the Highlander. Had our 2013 Santa Fe Sport AWD for 11 years and 163,000, Hers in a 2021 Santa Fe Turbo .

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[quote=MTK;1361160]Anyone got advice for buying a new car? For the last 20+ years I just bought directly from my brother who sold Fords, so now I'm on my own. Been reading up on how to approach a dealership, things like getting pre-approved before going in, focus on the "out the door" number vs monthly payment, don't talk trade-in until the end, etc. Anything else I should have in mind?[/quote]

always go with the out the door price and already have your financing lined up. Use the high interest rates as leverage to explain why you need at this price now…

also if you are gonna trade, please know what price they can sell your car for now. Get comparables just like buying a house ala “ I know you guys can get 25k right now for my car”

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Matty my best advice, the best you are going to do is haggle them a hundred here or there maybe a grand; don't settle for something because its a good deal

Between the passing of your brother and your delayed 50th birthday gift get the car you LOVE and when you pull out of that dealership with the new car smell in your nose and the memories of your brother and celebrating you made it 50 plus years in this rat race, just simply enjoy that moment and that moment alone will be an amazing deal.

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We work to hard, go get what you want.

I was looking at a new truck about a year ago, but I’m waiting…interest rates don’t look too good compared to a paid off truck with zero problems ever sitting in the driveway

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[quote=Chico23231;1361176]We work to hard, go get what you want.

I was looking at a new truck about a year ago, but I’m waiting…interest rates don’t look too good compared to a paid off truck with zero problems ever sitting in the driveway[/quote]

everyone does there finances as though they will live forever

i am not saying run yourself into to major debit or be completely finical irresponsible

BUT there are folk in my office with good money squirrelled away and have made great investments but they are so damn cheap they can't enjoy the money

Single lady in her 60s in my office no kids no mortgage no nothing, six figure salary, she has plenty of coin

she moves her bed in the summer down to the basement where it is cooler so she doesn't have to run the AC, just one example of her cheap ways

i mean come the fuck on live a fucking little

FOLKS YOU CAN"T TAKE IT WITH YOU SO ENJOY LIFE

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[quote=mredskins;1361172]this guy is the go to guy for Toyota/ lexus

[url]https://www.youtube.com/@TheCarCareNut[/url][/quote]

I watched several of his videos when researching Lexus, he really helped sell me on getting one

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[quote=mredskins;1361175]Matty my best advice, the best you are going to do is haggle them a hundred here or there maybe a grand; don't settle for something because its a good deal

Between the passing of your brother and your delayed 50th birthday gift get the car you LOVE and when you pull out of that dealership with the new car smell in your nose and the memories of your brother and celebrating you made it 50 plus years in this rat race, just simply enjoy that moment and that moment alone will be an amazing deal.[/quote]

Thanks man, I pulled the trigger today, picking it up on Monday. I’ll post some pics then.

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[quote=MTK;1361198]Thanks man, I pulled the trigger today, picking it up on Monday. I’ll post some pics then.[/quote]

SWEET!!! Enjoy, well deserved

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[quote=MTK;1361198]Thanks man, I pulled the trigger today, picking it up on Monday. I’ll post some pics then.[/quote]

Congratulations, enjoy it!

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[quote=mredskins;1361170]a dead battery and multiple torn cv boots is not bad for 140k

my first runner the rear differential went out at 50K ; when they went to fix it they said it had half the required gear oil and that shit was built in japan

shit happens even to the best of the best[/quote]

All those issues were within the first 60k miles though - the axles were replaced under warranty around 40k, then again at 80k, and they're making noise again as of 130k (I haven't gotten them fixed though since I'm out of warranty now).

The battery thing - if you buy a new battery (let's say from Interstate) it comes with a 5 year prorated warranty. That means if it goes bad before 5 years/60k miles they partially cover the cost of the replacement. Honda only covers a battery in a brand new car to 3 years/36k. That means they're putting cheap Chinese junk batteries in their brand new models.

I've also had issues with the a/c compressor and it currently has a fuel pump recall on it (parts aren't available yet).

Overall I've had more issues in 5 years of owning the Civic then I had in 10 years with the Corolla. Of course YMMV. I just think Toyota is a better company.