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[quote=Monkeydad;1266409]Saw a mock draft where the Giants, ahead of us, took a QB in Round 1.

Jones hasn't been great.[/quote]

It's not out of the question. Judge didn't draft Jones, but I don't see that as a very likely scenario. He's been ok a year and a half into it, other than the turnovers, which seem to have subsided of late. He's still young, and likely who they are going to build around.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1266411]It's not out of the question. Judge didn't draft Jones, but I don't see that as a very likely scenario. He's been ok a year and a half into it, other than the turnovers, which seem to have subsided of late. He's still young, and likely who they are going to build around.[/quote]

Only way the Giants draft another QB is if Gettleman gets fired.

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In FA the team should spend the money to get Allen Robinson. The McLaurin / Robinson tandem would be freaking awesome. Then we’d have Cam Sims and Harmon vying for the slot WR. That really fixes the WR hole and gives us a formidable WR group for Alex Smith.

The first draft pick should go for our future QB - BYU’s QB (?). Alex Smith is playing well, but he’s living on borrowed time. His last act in the NFL, as a player, will be to mentor the team’s new franchise QB, next season.

The second draft pick should go for the OL.


There are several hard decisions coming up this offseason in FA: Scherff vs Rouiller, or Allen vs Payne. I’d put the team’s money on Allen and Scherff. The team needs to be judicious with the FA money and not get bogged down with a bunch of very high salaries.

Right now the worst salary hit we have is the very high Collins salary. Dumping Collins may be too tough next season (cap hit), but he has NOT earned his salary. Just like Van Norman, the Collins contract was a typical Daniel Snyder special: raising hope in the attempt to “win the off-season”. Well, Rivera is changing the team’s culture and as long as we keep Kyle Smith and prevent Snyder from drafting players on his own, our player pool will get better!


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I really like Curtis Samuel to compliment Terry over Robinson. He’s gonna be more affordable and a little younger.

Take that saved money and put towards another need or resigning our own

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The point is that the team needs to use FA to get an elite WR. The younger the better. But he has to be on a level to take the pressure off MacLaurin. So no journeyman WR, we need to a player in the excellent to outstanding level. This is where to spend the money. This should be the first priority in FA.

Another FA choice is to get a good TE. Another tough decision will be to bring in a kicker FA for a competition next TC.

The draft will be used first for the QB, then the OL. If Kyle Smith is the GM, he has been able to bring in rookie STARTERS from the lower draft picks. Keep it up!!


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[quote=Warthog;1266665]The point is that the team needs to use FA to get an elite WR. The younger the better. But he has to be on a level to take the pressure off MacLaurin. So no journeyman WR, we need to a player in the excellent to outstanding level. This is where to spend the money. This should be the first priority in FA.

Another FA choice is to get a good TE. Another tough decision will be to bring in a kicker FA for a competition next TC.

The draft will be used first for the QB, then the OL. If Kyle Smith is the GM, he has been able to bring in rookie STARTERS from the lower draft picks. Keep it up!!


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I’m certainly welcomed to add more talent at WR and thought coming into the season Terry was a good WR and not elite, no 1...so this year has changed my mind. I think Terry has bumped his game and established himself as the No 1...I feel now with still many holes across the team, that getting a complimentary talent to Terry should be the path.

Certainly someone with more speed...Robby Anderson or Curtis Samuel would fit that bill. I also prefer someone who is more an outside WR (Anderson, Robinson) than slot guy (Godwin, Golloday).

Another reason I see not to spend the super elite money like Robinson will demand and Cooper got last year is offense scheme is spreading the ball around more...Cam Sims, Sims jr, Wright, etc are all getting looks and developing.

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I'd be pretty damn happy with this draft. I go back and forth on who I like more out of Lance and Wilson. As of now, I like Lance more.

9: R1 P9 - QB Trey Lance - North Dakota State
41: R2 P9 - OT Christian Darrisaw - Virginia Tech
73: R3 P9 - LB Charles Snowden - UVA
77: R3 P13 - LB Dylan Moses - Alabama
111: R4 P9 - S Damar Hamilin - Pittsburgh
150: R5 P9 - TE Chase Allen - Iowa State
231: R7 P9 - WR Shi Smith - South Carolina
239: R7 P17 - TE Jamal Pettigrew - LSU

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Just say no to Lance.

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Agreed, based on current sample size he's an unknown. Could be Haskins mk 2 and right now not a high 1st rounder. I'm also a little concerned that he decided to skip the 21 spring season in favour of the draft; I get the logic, but personally I'd want a better body of f work, especially recent, to bring to the table. Not least because his one game played since last season wasn't exactly his best work!

But likewise it's still too early to project anyone especially given the impact of Covid, so...

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1266731]Just say no to Lance.[/quote]

I'd take Lance over any OSU QBs.


I like the path of building around Smith for a couple years.

Devonta Smith, who I mentioned before went INSANE this week. 219 yards and 3 TDs in the first half against LSU.

Get him beside Terry.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1266784][B]I'd take Lance over any OSU QBs.[/B]


I like the path of building around Smith for a couple years.

Devonta Smith, who I mentioned before went INSANE this week. 219 yards and 3 TDs in the first half against LSU.

Get him beside Terry.[/quote]

There are a lot of mocks that have the WFT taking Lance, but I'm definitely not taking him over Fields, and I'm not sold on Bison QBs either at this point.

Good thing is after pick 1 or 2, most of those mock drafts are BS...

Just say no to Lance...

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I’m not sold on fields or lance. Trask or Wilson have me intrigued

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I watched BYU this weekend but Coastal Carolina hogged the ball all game, so I don't think Wilson was able to get in as good as a rhythm as usual. Still had some impressive throws. They play SDSU next, I'll be watching that one too. Should get more ToP that game. I don't think he is as big as his bio. Looks more like 6'1 or so to me. Not 6'3.

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12: R1 P12 - TE Kyle Pitts - Florida
44: R2 P12 - LB Nick Bolton - Missouri
76: R3 P12 - OT Rashawn Slater - Northwestern
77: R3 P13 - QB Mac Jones - Alabama
114: R4 P12 - WR Damonte Coxie - Memphis
153: R5 P12 - S Damar Hamlin - Pitt
234: R7 P12 - OT Landon Young - Kentucky
240: R7 P18 - CB Dicaprio Bootle - Nebraska

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1267437]12: R1 P12 - TE Kyle Pitts - Florida
44: R2 P12 - LB Nick Bolton - Missouri
76: R3 P12 - OT Rashawn Slater - Northwestern
77: R3 P13 - QB Mac Jones - Alabama
114: R4 P12 - WR Damonte Coxie - Memphis
153: R5 P12 - S Damar Hamlin - Pitt
234: R7 P12 - OT Landon Young - Kentucky
240: R7 P18 - CB Dicaprio Bootle - Nebraska[/quote]

I would be shocked if Slater and Jones are available in round 3.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1266681]I'd be pretty damn happy with this draft. I go back and forth on who I like more out of Lance and Wilson. As of now, I like Lance more.

9: R1 P9 - QB Trey Lance - North Dakota State
41: R2 P9 - OT Christian Darrisaw - Virginia Tech
73: R3 P9 - LB Charles Snowden - UVA
77: R3 P13 - LB Dylan Moses - Alabama
111: R4 P9 - S Damar Hamilin - Pittsburgh
150: R5 P9 - TE Chase Allen - Iowa State
231: R7 P9 - WR Shi Smith - South Carolina
239: R7 P17 - TE Jamal Pettigrew - LSU[/quote]


I am not sold on Lance. Think I'd like Wilson or Trask (might be able to get him the 2nd round) and get a LT in the 1'st....

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[quote=Monkeydad;1266784]I'd take Lance over any OSU QBs.


I like the path of building around Smith for a couple years.

Devonta Smith, who I mentioned before went INSANE this week. 219 yards and 3 TDs in the first half against LSU.

Get him beside Terry.[/quote]

agreed

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[quote=Number44;1267444]I would be shocked if Slater and Jones are available in round 3.[/quote]

Me too. Agree 100%. But when doing a mock draft, you have to pick out of who is available. Not really a way to do a mock draft if you won't pick someone because you don't think it will be realistic at that pick. Some guys go seemingly way too high and visa-versa.

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There is no way in hell you draft Lance in the first round. Just no way.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1266784]I'd take Lance over any OSU QBs.


I like the path of building around Smith for a couple years.

Devonta Smith, who I mentioned before went INSANE this week. 219 yards and 3 TDs in the first half against LSU.

Get him beside Terry.[/quote]

Under no circumstances should the front office count on Smith as a starter for next year. He can't make plays out of the pocket like he use to. He isn't anywhere close to where he was in KC. You have to draft his replacement and can't get caught up in the comeback story.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1267537]Under no circumstances should the front office count on Smith as a starter for next year. He can't make plays out of the pocket like he use to. He isn't anywhere close to where he was in KC. You have to draft his replacement and can't get caught up in the comeback story.[/quote]

That's easy to say, but they are working their way towards a pick between 19-32. Obviously there will be QBs available there, but are any of them going to be worthy of that pick? Maybe RR isn't interested in any QBs after the top 4-5 are gone. Maybe Haskins gets another shot? We'll all just have to see how this thing shakes out, but as a fan base we need to be prepared to see Smith at the helm for another year, and if he manages to take this team to the playoffs and is healthy next year, why not?

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1267539]That's easy to say, but t[B]hey are working their way towards a pick between 19-32. Obviously there will be QBs available there, but are any of them going to be worthy of that pick?[/B] Maybe RR isn't interested in any QBs after the top 4-5 are gone. Maybe Haskins gets another shot? We'll all just have to see how this thing shakes out, but as a fan base we need to be prepared to see Smith at the helm for another year, and if he manages to take this team to the playoffs and is healthy next year, why not?[/quote]

Mac Jones. I don't know how it is possible to be under-rated as the QB of the number 1 team in the nation, with the historic kind of season he is having, but that's what is happening. Getting him at #19 would be striking gold, IMO.

It would serve Jones well to watch Alex Smith for a season, just as it did Mahomes.

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[QUOTE=Number44;1267546]Mac Jones. I don't know how it is possible to be under-rated as the QB of the number 1 team in the nation, with the historic kind of season he is having, but that's what is happening. Getting him at #19 would be striking gold, IMO.

It would serve Jones well to watch Alex Smith for a season, just as it did Mahomes.[/QUOTE]

Just a small sample, but watching the highlights of the Georgia game a couple of things struck me:

Accurate
Quick getting the ball out
Great touch on the long pass
Strong arm but good judge of when to take the heat off the throw.

But a few throws were under thrown and/or into traffic. That hook could easily be a pick 6 in the NFL.

I agree he should be on our board, and that he would definitely benefit from a year sitting behind/working with Smith.

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Given where we are now and possibly going to pick in the lower half of round 1, would it be a reach picking at tier 2 QB there (Jones, Lance etc.), or better to go BPA and chance a good QB falling to us in a later round? Odds are the best QBs go early but as we know there have been sleepers like Wilson. Is it really worth the risk of Haskins MkII rather than finding out the talent elsewhere like MLB?

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The Alex Smith is still our QB draft. Didn't get a QB but offense would be way more loaded.

19: R1 P19 TE Kyle Pitts - Florida
51: R2 P19 OT Christian Darrisaw - Virginia Tech
76: R3 P12 WR Terrace Marshall Jr. - LSU
82: R3 P18 S Paris Ford - Pittsburgh
121: R4 P19 LB Nick Bolton - Missouri
160: R5 P19 OT Dillon Radunz - North Dakota State
239: R7 P17 CB Chase Lucas - Arizona State
241: R7 P19 TE Cary Angeline - NC State

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1269362]The Alex Smith is still our QB draft. Didn't get a QB but offense would be way more loaded.

19: R1 P19 TE Kyle Pitts - Florida
51: R2 P19 OT Christian Darrisaw - Virginia Tech
76: R3 P12 WR Terrace Marshall Jr. - LSU
82: R3 P18 S Paris Ford - Pittsburgh
121: R4 P19 LB Nick Bolton - Missouri
160: R5 P19 OT Dillon Radunz - North Dakota State
239: R7 P17 CB Chase Lucas - Arizona State
241: R7 P19 TE Cary Angeline - NC State[/quote]

No chance Pitts falls to 19, he's got Kelce like potential. Good mock tho

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QB
QB
QB
Alex Smith is done.
Another year of this shit would be a waste of a season.

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At least sign a Vet QB in case we can’t land the player we want in the Draft ...we need OL , Wr , mlb , K .. damn if only Haskins would be the franchise QB ...

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I would absolutely love Kyle Pitts on our team

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1269366]No chance Pitts falls to 19, he's got Kelce like potential. Good mock tho[/quote]

Hell Kelce was a third rounder. Let us dream of Pitts running down that seam sky jumping over LBs and S.

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Zach Wilson has made a Burrow like leap this yr, that kid is a baller and may be the #2 pick

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1267539]That's easy to say, but they are working their way towards a pick between 19-32. Obviously there will be QBs available there, but are any of them going to be worthy of that pick? Maybe RR isn't interested in any QBs after the top 4-5 are gone. Maybe Haskins gets another shot? We'll all just have to see how this thing shakes out, but as a fan base we need to be prepared to see Smith at the helm for another year, and if he manages to take this team to the playoffs and is healthy next year, why not?[/quote]

Why not? Because this year everything has fallen into place... easy schedule, injuries to starting QB's. May not be the case next year if we are to win the division. You just can not count on a QB playing on half a leg in his late 30's.

As hard as it would be I would ask Alex to retire so a tough decision isn't made for him. No way in hell is Haskins coming back. I bring back Allen, I draft someone and I bring in a vet.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1269810]Zach Wilson has made a Burrow like leap this yr, that kid is a baller and may be the #2 pick[/quote]

He really has but he will be long gone when we pick.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1269382]I would absolutely love Kyle Pitts on our team[/quote]

Man among boys. He will be gone. :-(

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We are not the only ones salivating for Wilson.

[url]https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Zach-Wilson-49ers-NFL-Draft-trade-scouting-stats-15824665.php[/url]


If the Jets get the second pick they should jump all over him. If for some reason he’s available at #3 I would offer our 1st, 3rd and as much as I love Matt I. Or Tim Settle.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1269887]We are not the only ones salivating for Wilson.

[url]https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Zach-Wilson-49ers-NFL-Draft-trade-scouting-stats-15824665.php[/url]


If the Jets get the second pick they should jump all over him. If for some reason he’s available at #3 I would offer our 1st, 3rd and as much as I love Matt I. Or Tim Settle.[/quote]

I'd rather throw in Landon Collins.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1269890]I'd rather throw in Landon Collins.[/quote]

Him too

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I wish Bill O'Brien was still with the Texans. Maybe we'd be able to trade Haskins and a KFC bucket for Watson and save the gamble of drafting a QB? :)

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1270701]I wish Bill O'Brien was still with the Texans. Maybe we'd be able to trade Haskins and a KFC bucket for Watson and save the gamble of drafting a QB? :)[/quote]

Ha! Obrien might have given us Watson, and their 1st round pick....for nothing. Dude was not making smart moves.

-Mike-

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[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2021-nfl-mock-draft-jaguars-locked-in-on-trevor-lawrence-justin-fields-slips-steelers-get-rb/[/url]

CBS mock draft w current projected draft order