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CultBrennan59 03-17-2012 10:39 AM

Re: 2012 NFL Draft Prospects
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;900407]Kellen Moore was a great college QB but, if you're going to go with a short QB, why not go with one who is faster, sturdier, more mobile, and has a better arm - namely Russell Wilson. I think Wilson is a much better fit for the offense we run.[/quote]

The reason why Kellen Moore (although Russel Wilson is a great QB in his own respects) would be a great backup for us is because of his football smarts. The guy was considered by some a smarter football IQ QB than even Andrew Luck. So think about it. You play Robert, have Rex as the backup, and let Kellen stay on the bench learn the offense, study the other teams, then you can have yourself another matt flynn.

diehardskin2982 03-17-2012 11:30 AM

Re: 2012 NFL Draft Prospects
 
Round 1 RGIII
Round 2 (Trade) LaMichael James RB
Round 4 Philip Blake C
Round 5 Ryan Broyles WR
Round 6 Ron Brooks CB
Round 7 Vontaze Burfict (LOL)

30gut 03-17-2012 11:47 AM

Re: 2012 NFL Draft Prospects
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;900427]Do you mean in terms of a QB controversy? If so, I agree, but maaaaaaaaaan, he could be Schaub later on where he comes in for some mop-up duty and gets us a second rounder down the road.[/quote]I agree with the thought, just don't like the plan for a team with a rookie QB.
I liked the idea for the Packers who drafted Flynn and Brohm in the same class, but they could pull it off because the already had an established incumbent QB.
New England has Hoyer, Eagles have Kafka, Ravens have Tyrod Taylor etc.

But on a team with no established QB its inviting the inevitable comparisons.
And the sports media, especially here in Washington, are predisposed to create a QB controversy even where one really doesn't exsist.

Griffin will undoubtedly have some rough days during training camp, all QBs have them.
All it takes is for a reporter or two (heck with social media any blogger/forum member attending training) to see Griff miss a couple throws that the other QB makes then the snowball begins god forbid the other QB has a better day then Griffin.

ArtMonkDrillz 03-17-2012 11:55 AM

Re: 2012 NFL Draft Prospects
 
[quote=30gut;900435]I agree with the thought, just don't like the plan for a team with a rookie QB.
I liked the idea for the Packers who drafted Flynn and Brohm in the same class, but they could pull it off because the already had an established incumbent QB.
New England has Hoyer, Eagles have Kafka, Ravens have Tyrod Taylor etc.

But on a team with no established QB its inviting the inevitable comparisons.
And the sports media, especially here in Washington, are predisposed to create a QB controversy even where one really doesn't exsist.

Griffin will undoubtedly have some rough days during training camp, all QBs have them.
All it takes is for a reporter or two (heck with social media any blogger/forum member attending training) to see Griff miss a couple throws that the other QB makes then the snowball begins god forbid the other QB has a better day then Griffin.[/quote]I understand your point, but I think by trading what the front office did they've determined that Griffin (or Luck) is the established QB for the foreseeable future.
If we hadn't made the trade and either reached for Tannehill at 6 or took, say, Weeden in the 2nd then I agree it might not be a good idea to draft another QB in the later rounds.

30gut 03-18-2012 03:14 AM

Re: 2012 NFL Draft Prospects
 
[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;900436]I understand your point, but I think by trading what the front office did they've determined that Griffin (or Luck) is the established QB for the foreseeable future. If we hadn't made the trade and either reached for Tannehill at 6 or took, say, Weeden in the 2nd then I agree it might not be a good idea to draft another QB in the later rounds.[/quote]But, the front office determination doesn't and cannot substitute for experience.
Without being an established and successful incumbent QB nothing tangible separates the QBs.
And without that established separation when QB1 has a bad day and QB2 has a great day it will look like QB1 is better then QB2.

I'm not saying that's gonna happen, but why create that scenario?

Also, there are only so many reps in a given practice.
And a rookie QB of the future is gonna need as many reps as they can handle and imo the whole staff should be singularly focused on preparing them to start.
And catering the system to make him successful.
Anything that takes away from that aim is a needless burden in my eyes.

NYCskinfan82 03-18-2012 08:02 AM

Re: 2012 NFL Draft Prospects
 
Isn't that Shuler & Ferrote.

RGIII 03-19-2012 06:13 AM

Re: 2012 NFL Draft Prospects
 
Russell Wilson should be a great pickup on day 3 or UDFA.

KI Skins Fan 03-19-2012 08:04 AM

Re: 2012 NFL Draft Prospects
 
[quote=RGIII;900958]Russell Wilson should be a great pickup on day 3 or UDFA.[/quote]

I love the idea Russell Wilson in our offense. The [U]only[/U] problem I have with him is that he's short. When I watch him play, he reminds me of Drew Brees. Why not settle our QB position this year by picking RGIII and Wilson, if we can?

I hope we draft him but there is no way he'll last beyond the 5th Round. It wouldn't be a shock to me if some team picked him in the 3rd Round.

IMO, RGIII, Rex (the mentor), and Wilson would be a very good QB situation for us.

REDSKINS4ever 03-19-2012 08:48 AM

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I knew the Redskins would re-sign Grossman. Although Grossman seemingly deserved this new mandated back up role, I wanted them to pursue Matt Leinart again like they did last offseason. Of course the thing about Grossman is his tendency for committing turnovers.

KI Skins Fan 03-19-2012 09:19 AM

Re: 2012 NFL Draft Prospects
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;900968]I knew the Redskins would re-sign Grossman. Although Grossman seemingly deserved this new mandated back up role, I wanted them to pursue Matt Leinart again like they did last offseason. Of course the thing about Grossman is his tendency for committing turnovers.[/quote]

This is why the Skins wanted Grossman back:

“I know they’re going to draft a franchise QB,” Grossman told ESPN 980 on Saturday night. ”If I’m on the team, I’m gonna help out that guy get up to speed, but I’ll also be ready to play. I’m gonna be a good soldier, and I’ll be busting my ass to help him out.”

mbedner3420 03-19-2012 09:27 AM

Re: 2012 NFL Draft Prospects
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;900978]This is why the Skins wanted Grossman back:

“I know they’re going to draft a franchise QB,” Grossman told ESPN 980 on Saturday night. ”If I’m on the team, I’m gonna help out that guy get up to speed, but I’ll also be ready to play. I’m gonna be a good soldier, and I’ll be busting my ass to help him out.”[/quote]

I kinda feel bad for him. He knows he has no place in the NFL as a starter anymore (probably never really did). Oh well, I can't wait to see RG3 sling it next year.

Chico23231 03-19-2012 09:47 AM

Re: 2012 NFL Draft Prospects
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;900978]This is why the Skins wanted Grossman back:

“I know they’re going to draft a franchise QB,” Grossman told ESPN 980 on Saturday night. ”If I’m on the team, I’m gonna help out that guy get up to speed, but I’ll also be ready to play. I’m gonna be a good soldier, and I’ll be busting my ass to help him out.”[/quote]

This is why I perfered Rex here instead of Orton.

REDSKINS4ever 03-26-2012 07:54 PM

Re: 2012 NFL Draft Prospects
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;900978]This is why the Skins wanted Grossman back:

“I know they’re going to draft a franchise QB,” Grossman told ESPN 980 on Saturday night. ”If I’m on the team, I’m gonna help out that guy get up to speed, but I’ll also be ready to play. I’m gonna be a good soldier, and I’ll be busting my ass to help him out.”[/quote]

Yes, I'm aware of that.

I'm not saying that Grossman doesn't deserve to be the back up. He definitely earned it with his 13 starts last season. In his defense, you can say that he had only 4 more INTs than TD passes.

NC_Skins 04-03-2012 08:59 AM

Re: 2012 NFL Draft Prospects
 
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/03/claiborne-gives-birth-to-a-four-on-the-wonderlic/]Claiborne gives birth to a four on the Wonderlic | ProFootballTalk[/url]


How in the hell do you score a 4 on the Wonderlic? No effort? Just plain dumb?

/facepalm

Chico23231 04-03-2012 09:04 AM

Re: 2012 NFL Draft Prospects
 
[quote=NC_Skins;906238][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/03/claiborne-gives-birth-to-a-four-on-the-wonderlic/]Claiborne gives birth to a four on the Wonderlic | ProFootballTalk[/url]


How in the hell do you score a 4 on the Wonderlic? No effort? Just plain dumb?

/facepalm[/quote]

LSU education. SEC is a football conference first


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