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EdmundDorf 01-31-2021 09:11 AM

Re: Stafford in WFT Plans? He’s Available
 
Stafford wanted to go to LA, didn't end up mattering how much Ron offered.

MissouriSkin 01-31-2021 09:24 AM

Re: Stafford in WFT Plans? He’s Available
 
Well one good thing we can take from this is that Dan probably wasn’t involved. We stopped once the price got too high. If Dan was there, we’d have kept going and given up yet another first and our whole D line just so he could “win”.

skinsfan69 01-31-2021 10:37 AM

Re: Stafford in WFT Plans? He’s Available
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1276109]Rams havent had a 1st rd pick since 2016, but are in the playoffs every year. But some refuse to believe that Proven players > picks. Id trade my 1st rd pick for the next 5 years if it meant Deshaun Watson was coming to my team

Post off Twitter. Makes sense[/quote]

did not make it in 2019.

skinsfan69 01-31-2021 10:45 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1276114]Yet another crazy stat courtesy of Albert Breer:[/quote]

what a dumb stat.

skinsfan69 01-31-2021 10:57 AM

Re: Stafford in WFT Plans? He’s Available
 
[quote=EdmundDorf;1276168]Stafford wanted to go to LA, didn't end up mattering how much Ron offered.[/quote]

exactly. if you were Stafford you want to play for a top offensive coach. not norv turner's son.... lol.

skinsfan69 01-31-2021 11:00 AM

Re: Stafford in WFT Plans? He’s Available
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1276149]Scalper, can you stop writing novels on 90% of your post? Fuck me, even if I agree with 100% of your post, I need to live my life.[/quote]

don't forget warthog!

Number44 01-31-2021 11:06 AM

Re: Stafford in WFT Plans? He’s Available
 
[quote=SkinzWin;1276160]I just want to know what we offered. All this cloak and dagger crap pisses me off. If your “source familiar with the situation” is able to tel you they offered more than LA, do a little investigative journalism and go a step further and ask, what was the offer?

Per @BenStandig

Washington made the Lions a significant offer for QB
Matthew Stafford, per sources. [B]One person familiar with the situation said the WFT offer included more immediate help than what Lions landed.[/B] Detroit went another way. The search for a QB rolls on.[/quote]

This doesn't really say much. The argument can be made that the 19th pick alone represents more immediate help than what the Lions landed in this trade.

CRedskinsRule 01-31-2021 11:07 AM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1276176]what a dumb stat.[/QUOTE]How is it dumb. When 0% of a position drafted in the 1st round is on their original team 5 yrs later (2016)that should be a cautionary tale. When it happens consistently, it should be a strong warning that drafting a qb in the 1st round, even repeated attempts at it, is not a definitive way to get the right guy.

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EARTHQUAKE2689 01-31-2021 11:10 AM

Re: Stafford in WFT Plans? He’s Available
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1276175]did not make it in 2019.[/quote]

Yeah I saw that, still had a winning record in 2019

skinsfan69 01-31-2021 11:25 AM

Re: Stafford in WFT Plans? He’s Available
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1276181]How is it dumb. When 0% of a position drafted in the 1st round is on their original team 5 yrs later (2016)that should be a cautionary tale. When it happens consistently, it should be a strong warning that drafting a qb in the 1st round, even repeated attempts at it, is not a definitive way to get the right guy.

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50% of 1st rouders bust anyway. so does that mean you do not try and draft one? i sure would like to have watson, murray, allen, rodgers, carr, herbert, mahomes, burrow. in 10 or 11 years chances are some of those young guys will have moved on or won't be playing. that is the nature of the beast.

skinsfan69 01-31-2021 11:34 AM

Re: Stafford in WFT Plans? He’s Available
 
[quote=Chico23231;1276165]After reading more, you are right but that just essentially states just how mismanaged the Rams are...

Rams will still have to eat 22 million in dead cap this year do to Goff, which affects cap. And I’m not sure but believe any remaining prorated signing bonus that was spread out over the deal will be accelerated into next year...again affecting their cap.

Why they signed Goff to a mega deal is gross mismanagement and then to have to trade him away giving up a first rounder...makes bill O’Brien look genius. It’s the Mount Rushmore of mega mistakes by an org.[/quote]

but the rams have stayed a contender and will probably be one next year. if they get better qb play they are no doubt a favorite to come out of the NFC. yeah they have made mistakes but they haven't bottomed out like the texans.

CRedskinsRule 01-31-2021 11:37 AM

Re: Stafford in WFT Plans? He’s Available
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1276183]50% of 1st rouders bust anyway. so does that mean you do not try and draft one? i sure would like to have watson, murray, allen, rodgers, carr, herbert, mahomes, burrow. in 10 or 11 years chances are some of those young guys will have moved on or won't be playing. that is the nature of the beast.[/QUOTE]Right, so the point is valid. If your strategy is solely to jump up to grab the kid that looks like a sure thing, it is a dumb strategy. If you have an NFL proven starter you can get for a first round pick or even 2, that is a better deal because as you said 50% of the 1st round drafted qbs are gonna bust.

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skinsfaninok 01-31-2021 11:39 AM

Re: Stafford in WFT Plans? He’s Available
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1276177]exactly. if you were Stafford you want to play for a top offensive coach. not norv turner's son.... lol.[/quote]

The weather is better too, and scenery of course

Meks 01-31-2021 11:46 AM

Re: Stafford in WFT Plans? He’s Available
 
Who cares. He wasn't coming here. I'll be glad if we stand pat and draft around Heineken

skinsfaninok 01-31-2021 11:49 AM

Re: Stafford in WFT Plans? He’s Available
 
[quote=Meks;1276187]Who cares. He wasn't coming here. I'll be glad if we stand pat and draft around Heineken[/quote]

Drafting around TH is not in their plans clearly. They haven't even said he'll be back yet. Ron and the new regime are hell bent on finding a QB because they know the window is open now.

Good Defense
Solid weapons on O
CAP Room
Good staff.

All the ingredients of a win now team. The truth is Taylor is a nice story but he isn't the answer at QB.


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