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[quote=Gmanc711;692763]I know we have absolutely nothing to trade now...but NOW I wouldn't mind trading up and getting Clausen and having a young guy to groom...Maybe if we trade Hayensworth that will happen. I'm not for trading Albert, and I would have been irate if we drafted Claussen off the bat, but I"m shocked he slid out of the 1st..[/quote]If you knew Clausen would be available at 37, do you regret the McNabb trade???

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i'm saying that is IF we were to try and get clausen...he'll be gone by the first four picks tomorrow.

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Wish we had a way to grab McCoy

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[quote=Dirtbag359;692764]JLC has been on his game tonight.[/quote]

Must not be discussing Washington.

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Surprised Clausen slipped this far. Can't believe I thought we could take him at #4. Still think Minnesota has a chance for him a 2nd time..

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[quote=tootergray34;692772]agree'd...we gotta be aggressive....maybe too aggressive for some tastes really.[/quote]

Yes, let's continue to give up picks. It worked for Vinny, no?
:doh:

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[quote=SouperMeister;692774]If you knew Clausen would be available at 37, do you regret the McNabb trade???[/quote]

yes...in a cocaine heartbeat...cause clausen can play for the next ten or fifteen years...mcnabb...the next 3?

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[quote=Dirtbag359;692764]JLC has been on his game tonight.[/quote]

He works for the NFL network. He had almost every pick in hand right before it was announced. No doubt teams are leaking to him before others because it will increase viewership for the league's TV channel.

That said, JLC and the NFLN broadcast team really smashed ESPN tonight with their coverage.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;692777]Must not be discussing Washington.[/quote]

I'm sure he'll be back insisting that we're trading AH and that we're getting Bradford somehow.

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[quote=Ruhskins;692771]...and giving them a hell of a defensive line. I swear, people are so blinded by stupid hate for a single player and not think of the team or the big picture.[/quote]

Not to mention we play them this year and have played them the last 3 years. :doh:

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[quote=GMScud;692781]He works for the NFL network. [B]He had almost every pick in hand right before it was announced.[/B] No doubt teams are leaking to him before others because it will increase viewership for the league's TV channel.

That said, JLC and the NFLN broadcast team really smashed ESPN tonight with their coverage.[/quote]

So did Schefter.

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[quote=Mattyk;692776]Wish we had a way to grab McCoy[/quote]It will cost us our 1st rounder next year, but I'd still give it a 20% chance of happening.

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booing Drew B....LOL....draft attendees got to be the biggest haters!

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[quote=Ruhskins;692779]Yes, let's continue to give up picks. It worked for Vinny, no?
:doh:[/quote]

no i'm saying if we WANTED to get him we'd have to be majorily aggressive...not saying we are...i don't think we'll be able to trade any of our players honestly.

maybe rocky...but he's prob. worth a 4th in all honestly...same with campbell.

AH could get a suitor for a 2nd rounder...but I doubt it now that Tenn is out o fhte mix.

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[quote=Ruhskins;692779]Yes, let's continue to give up picks. It worked for Vinny, no?
:doh:[/quote]For just once, I'd like to see us stockpile picks like New England. We always seem to build as if our FO thinks we're only 2 players from being contenders.

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[quote=saden1;692786]booing Drew B....LOL....draft attendees got to be the biggest haters![/quote]

They seem to boo everyone, I don't get it.

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[quote=SouperMeister;692774]If you knew Clausen would be available at 37, do you regret the McNabb trade???[/quote]

Yeah, but who would have thought he'd slip into the second round? No one predicted that. McNabb was a more prudent move at the time.

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[quote=tootergray34;692780]yes...in a cocaine heartbeat...cause clausen can play for the next ten or fifteen years...mcnabb...the next 3?[/quote]


Funny how so many people on this board think that "Big Love" Clausen is the next great one but every single team in the league passed on him.

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[quote=GMScud;692781]He works for the NFL network. He had almost every pick in hand right before it was announced. No doubt teams are leaking to him before others because it will increase viewership for the league's TV channel.

That said, JLC and the NFLN broadcast team really smashed ESPN tonight with their coverage.[/quote]

I watched the whole thing on NFLN. They need Kiper and could get rid of a couple of guys or so. That would be awesome.

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[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/04/trent_williams_was_redskins_be.html"]Lovin' our Pick[/URL]

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Sound familiar:
[quote][B]Clady is also versatile[/B], being able to play on the left or the right. With very good technique, he does needsto add strength especially on his lower body).[B] He also needs to work harder in the weight room,[/B] as well as working on his run blocking mechanics.

Clady is a[B] top ten talent. [/B][B]Although Jake Long is the top tackle prospect[/B] in this year's draft, [B]Clady has the higher pro ceiling.[/B] He is a [B]terrific athlete[/B], but is [B]still learning the position.[/B] On [B]talent alone, he is above Joe Thomas[/B] (last year's top drafted tackle). A top pick for sure, Clady has the ability to contribute right away. He could anchor an offensive line for years.[/quote]

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[quote=SouperMeister;692774]If you knew Clausen would be available at 37, do you regret the McNabb trade???[/quote]I think we should have had the foresight to not give up the 37th pick in the draft, regardless. I'm sure Philly would have done it for a 2011 first rounder.

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[quote=GTripp0012;692785]It will cost us our 1st rounder next year, but I'd still give it a 20% chance of happening.[/quote]

Shanahan doesn't seem to eager too move up, that's fine with me

"You never know what's going to happen. You always talk, you communicate and we'll always do that. But we're not going to give up the farm to get a second round draft choice."

[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/nfl-draft/redskins-as-of-now-still-will.html"]Redskins Insider - Redskins, as of now, still will sit out rounds 2 and 3 of NFL draft[/URL]

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[quote=Ruhskins;692784]So did Schefter.[/quote]

agree'd schefter was spot on tonight.

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[quote=GTripp0012;692785]It will cost us our 1st rounder next year, but I'd still give it a 20% chance of happening.[/quote]Let's stop the madness of trading away high draft picks. Jason Taylor for a 2nd two years ago was pure insanity!!!

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[quote=GMScud;692790]Yeah, but who would have thought he'd slip into the second round? No one predicted that. McNabb was a more prudent move at the time.[/quote]

And still is the prudent move, imo. Clausen's an unknown quantity and it seems a good amount of teams that needed qb's weren't impressed enough to take him in the first.

McNabb's good for another few seasons and we know what we're getting.

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[quote=GMScud;692790]Yeah, but who would have thought he'd slip into the second round? No one predicted that. McNabb was a more prudent move at the time.[/quote]


McNabb is still the more prudent move no matter where Clausen goes.

I am not ready to sit out of NFL trash talking for 3 additional years after last year.

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[quote=Mattyk;692776]Wish we had a way to grab McCoy[/quote]
yeah with all of the talk about him dropping into the 1st I was like okay mcnabb makes good sense.. but now I'm back to the I wish we would've waited to see stage.. sigh

either way McNabb should be good.. just not potentially for 10 years

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;692791]Funny how so many people on this board think that "Big Love" Clausen is the next great one but every single team in the league passed on him.[/quote]

Including Denver passing him to take Tebow as their 3rd stringer. I'm still surprised that he slipped, but like I said the Redskins seemed to have move on the McNabb trade after seeing something in Clausen they didn't like.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;692726]I get it, you don't like Clausen. Just because he's dropped doesn't mean he won't be a successful NFL QB. Clausen had a great season and is head and shoulders better than Kafka or Stull. You must be a ND hater.

You may want to check your facts on Clausen. Has the guy fallen, yes. But every major NFL analyst (Kiper, Mayock, McShay, Jaws, Gruden) all have stated Clausen will be a good starting QB in the NFL. Don't start comparing him to Kafka or Stull.[/quote]

I don't hate Clausen, I don't think the track record of these overhyped QBs over say the last 20 years is very good. And I don't hate ND either. A hometown kid was a ND QB in the early 80's. After Holtz was canned ND went to shit for good. Who are the only Qbs that have garnered pre draft megahype and have delivered in the last 15-20 years? Both Mannings and our new #1 QB. Other than that, they have been busts. I remember when the Lions played the Browns in a preseason game in 2008. Every Brown's fan had a Quinn jersey on, when Anderson was then the starter. Funny as hell!!!! Kid couldn't start an entire season for the lowly Browns and they shipped him off. And to be fair to Jimmy, I don't see Sammy, Timmy, or Babyface making a huge impact either. The later 3 played on teams that were head and shoulders more talented than their weekly competition, which is why I think they will flop in the NFL. What will they do when the odds are even? Yeah, they shined like the sun when they had a marked advantage over the competition, but what are they going to do when MR. Parity comes a knocking?

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[quote=SouperMeister;692774]If you knew Clausen would be available at 37, do you regret the McNabb trade???[/quote]

Hell no, no regret at all.

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^ Good find about Clady Dirtbag. :thumb:

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When the draft started could anybody see Clausen slipping all the way to the second round? I didn't see that happening at all. I figured if he fell at least one team would be desperate enough to trade into the back end of the first round and grab him.

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[quote=tootergray34;692798]agree'd schefter was spot on tonight.[/quote]

Except when he is furthering Shanahan's agenda...

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[quote=SouperMeister;692774]If you knew Clausen would be available at 37, do you regret the McNabb trade???[/quote]

Yes. Especially considering there's no market for JC. We would then have JC, Clausen, and Trent Williams. It seems as if Shanahan wanted both McNabb and Campbell from the jump, otherwise he sould've waited after the draft.

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[quote=53Fan;692806]^ Good find Dirtbag. :thumb:[/quote]

Thank you. At least someone appreciated it. These threads move so fast sometimes. I'll post it again later.

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[quote=GMScud;692790]Yeah, but who would have thought he'd slip into the second round? No one predicted that. McNabb was a more prudent move at the time.[/quote]I mean, while you couldn't have predicted that not one team would trade up into the first round to get Clausen, I don't think it was unfathomable to think that any team who wanted to move up from the top end of the second could get him easily. This is still the case. The 33rd pick is likely going to be a QB with Minnesota sitting there, someone is going to trade for the Rams' pick, and anyone who wants Clausen/McCoy is going to be all over that.

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[quote=Ruhskins;692803]Including Denver passing him to take Tebow as their 3rd stringer. I'm still surprised that he slipped, but like I said the Redskins seemed to have move on the McNabb trade after seeing something in Clausen they didn't like.[/quote]

They were never high on Clausen to begin with, according to what SS said. So it's reasonable to think even if we didn't get McNabb, Clausen would still be on the board tonight.

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[quote=diehard;692809]Yes. Especially considering there's no market for JC. We would then have JC, Clausen, and Trent Williams. It seems as if Shanahan wanted both McNabb and Campbell from the jump, otherwise he sould've waited after the draft.[/quote]


After seeing McNabb in a burgandy and Gold #5, the last thing I want to see is JC.

I have seen enough...

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So Mel, how well did that "Clausen in the top 10/15" worked out? LOL.