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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1275526]He seems to be coveted, but I am hesitant about him. He did have one great year, but he has only played in 18 games I think.

Dwayne Haskins had more experience than him leaving college.[/quote]

Yeah but unlike Haskins, he’s reported to be a grinder. One of the hardest working, most detailed oriented, organized players you’ll ever meet. That’s a recipe for for success even if you have limited gam experiences. Those are the intangibles that help you grow. Unlike raw talent and a lazy work ethic.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1276020]Yeah but unlike Haskins, he’s reported to be a grinder. One of the hardest working, most detailed oriented, organized players you’ll ever meet. That’s a recipe for for success even if you have limited gam experiences. Those are the intangibles that help you grow. Unlike raw talent and a lazy work ethic.[/quote]

Yeah, I don't know that much about him. Haven't seen one game of his. I'm sure he is all you describe him to be, but that won't make him ready for the NFL in 2021. If you are going to draft a player in the top of the 1st round, he should be coming in to start in year 1 - at least at some point.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1276025]Yeah, I don't know that much about him. Haven't seen one game of his. I'm sure he is all you describe him to be, but that won't make him ready for the NFL in 2021. If you are going to draft a player in the top of the 1st round, he should be coming in to start in year 1 - at least at some point.[/quote]

Not if you’re Aaron Rodgers. And yes, I know, there was Brett Favre. But if he’s not ready, you get a 1-2 year bridge vet and let the kid grow. If the kid isn’t NFL ready, but has the requisite tools to excel, you got to look at it that way. I would honestly prefer it, bc it would give us another year or two to build a better line and skill position weapons so when the kid comes in you aren’t putting as much pressure on him to do more with less.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1276027]Not if you’re Aaron Rodgers. And yes, I know, there was Brett Favre. But if he’s not ready, you get a 1-2 year bridge vet and let the kid grow. If the kid isn’t NFL ready, but has the requisite tools to excel, you got to look at it that way. I would honestly prefer it, bc it would give us another year or two to build a better line and skill position weapons so when the kid comes in you aren’t putting as much pressure on him to do more with less.[/quote]

Aaron Rodgers was pick # 24, not the top half of the 1st round. I'd be more willing to let a QB sit for a year and learn if he's picked ~20-32. Lance is projected to be picked in the top 10, some mocks have him as early as #4. If that's the case, he should start day 1.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1276030]Aaron Rodgers was pick # 24, not the top half of the 1st round. I'd be more willing to let a QB sit for a year and learn if he's picked ~20-32. Lance is projected to be picked in the top 10, some mocks have him as early as #4. If that's the case, he should start day 1.[/quote]

Mahomes was picked at #10.

I doubt if Lance starts day 1, no matter where he's drafted.

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[quote=Number44;1276032]Mahomes was picked at #10.

I doubt if Lance starts day 1, no matter where he's drafted.[/quote]

Well, that's kinda my point. I don't want him in the 1st round - he's not ready to start.

In my opinion, if you are a 1st rounder you had better be starting on day 1 - period.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1276034]Well, that's kinda my point. I don't want him in the 1st round - he's not ready to start.

In my opinion, if you are a 1st rounder you had better be starting on day 1 - period.[/quote]

Look at Jordan Love. There is no reason you have to start a top of the 1st round pick if it’s not the best play. Everyone wants to play checkers, sometimes you have to play chess.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1276072]Look at Jordan Love. There is no reason you have to start a top of the 1st round pick if it’s not the best play. Everyone wants to play checkers, sometimes you have to play chess.[/quote]

Look - every team does their thing. GB did their thing, and it arguably cost them a trip to the SB this year. If they had an impact player for ARod, it could have made the difference for them in the NFC Championship game. Instead, they have Jordan Love riding the pine.

You are right. Teams aren't obligated to start their first round pick. Especially if that player doesn't give them the best chance to compete. However, I view first round picks as (should be) immediate starters, especially those picked in the top 10. That's why they are drafted where they are drafted, not to develop into starters in a couple years.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1276097]Look - every team does their thing. GB did their thing, and it arguably cost them a trip to the SB this year. If they had an impact player for ARod, it could have made the difference for them in the NFC Championship game. Instead, they have Jordan Love riding the pine.

You are right. Teams aren't obligated to start their first round pick. Especially if that player doesn't give them the best chance to compete. However, I view first round picks as (should be) immediate starters, especially those picked in the top 10. That's why they are drafted where they are drafted, not to develop into starters in a couple years.[/quote]

I agree with that should be the case most of the time, but not every time. And I don’t buy an impact player instead of Love wins them that game. Their DB King and Rodger’s stupidity for not running in for a TD late in the 4th cost them that game.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1276115]I agree with that should be the case most of the time, but not every time. And I don’t buy an impact player instead of Love wins them that game. Their DB King and Rodger’s stupidity for not running in for a TD late in the 4th cost them that game.[/quote]

Not being as good a team as Tampa Bay cost them that game.

I'm just saying an impact player could have made a difference - no way to know for sure. Likely would have made more of an impact than Jordan love did this year. Every other QB picked in the 1st or 2nd round in 2020 started games for their team this year, and will likely be THE starter in 2021. Jordan Love will be riding the pine behind Aaron for another 17 games +.

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Looks like Mac Jones had a good senior bowl week...

[url]https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2928978-top-nfl-draft-takeaways-from-the-2021-senior-bowl[/url]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1276212]Looks like Mac Jones had a good senior bowl week...

[url]https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2928978-top-nfl-draft-takeaways-from-the-2021-senior-bowl[/url][/quote]

I don’t think he’s a fit for our offense. That’s not to say they wouldn’t adapt if he’s there at 19 and they deem him our best option if we strike out in FA.

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Im really torn at staying put and snatching up a tackle like say Darrisaw or trading up for a Lance. Then there is the possibility Jones is there at 19. My brain says stay put and get an immediate impactful tackle that can help our offense but my heart says trade up for a guy like Lance.

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[quote=punch it in;1276357]Im really torn at staying put and snatching up a tackle like say Darrisaw or trading up for a Lance. Then there is the possibility Jones is there at 19. My brain says stay put and get an immediate impactful tackle that can help our offense but my heart says trade up for a guy like Lance.[/quote]

There were reports that Ron and company love Fields, wonder if that's an option to trade up

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1276358]There were reports that Ron and company love Fields, wonder if that's an option to trade up[/quote]

Jeez...