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Scalper 03-27-2021 07:52 PM

Re: WFT Free Agency
 
[quote=AnonEmouse;1280358]Looking at what we've done in FA, I think it's been about giving us more freedom in the draft; reducing the outright need to draft any one position. The only 3 positions I see as not being properly addressed so far are LT, LB and FS. Everything is covered with pickups that will be immediate starters (Fitz, Samuel, Jackson) or depth where we're thin/allowed guys to walk (Roberts, Mayo, Humphries). I think they're placing themselves where any team really wants to be, able to draft BPA with every pick. Given where we pick and the mocks suggest the same, #19 is going to be an LT or LB. I can see us therefore looking to round out depth with a few more FA signings, probably after we see what the draft gives us. Someone like Fisher, if still available, if we don't get the OL we want. Seems a sound approach to FA and the draft so far.[/quote]

You could nitpick, and I still hate the Fitz signing even though I think Fitz is solid for a senior citizen who has never won when it counts and never once led a team to the playoffs, but these are at least the moves of a professional FO rather than the clown show of the last quarter century. I concur with your assessment, and this philosophy has been directly stated by the FO. That being said, there are still some needs, the three you identified, plus we almost have to draft a QB and at least one TE.

I still look at at from the big-5 high-leverage positions perspective: QB, LT, DE, CB, WR in that order. Find a franchise QB. Protect him as no sense paying a guy $40M a year to be on IR, LT. Get a guy that destroys the other teams QB. I put CB above WR simply because there are far fewer shutdown CBs than dominant WRs. We have DE and CB locked up, CB at least 3 years. I still don't view McL as true #1WR, more #1.5, lacks size. Assuming five QBs go before us, as expected, QB with #1 pick no sense. So you would hope that BPA coincides with LT or WR. In a deep LT class, with hopefully 5 QBs before us and also lots of good WRs, you hope a top-10 LT most years drops to us this year and we button that position up and can keep whoever is QB healthy long term. I would be gritting my teeth if we pass on a franchise LT to draft a MLB or FS, even though we have needs there. Then maybe next year a WR or QB 1st round, and the other year after, you have your high-leverage positions locked up long term and can start having honest discussions about being a contender.

The exception would be a true stud 4.3 speed kind of FS, Earl Thomas. If one of those sitting there first round any year, you pounce.

Chief X_Phackter 03-27-2021 10:02 PM

Re: WFT Free Agency
 
Terry McLaurin isn't a #1 WR because of his size? Does that mean that Tyreek Hill isn't a #1 receiver too? Stefon Diggs, Amari Cooper, Justin Jefferson... They are all about the same size.

2000+ yards receiving and 11 TDs in two years without a clear #2, and six different starting QBs.

There's no question that TM is a #1 receiver.

sevier2 03-28-2021 01:43 AM

Re: WFT Free Agency
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1280370]Terry McLaurin isn't a #1 WR because of his size? Does that mean that Tyreek Hill isn't a #1 receiver too? Stefon Diggs, Amari Cooper, Justin Jefferson... They are all about the same size.

2000+ yards receiving and 11 TDs in two years without a clear #2, and six different starting QBs.

There's no question that TM is a #1 receiver.[/quote]

Agreed. The entire league seems to recognize Terry as a legit #1. I'm surprised to see somebody on our own board doubting him.

Then again, I've seen plenty of GB fans complain about Aaron Rodgers...

OnceWeWereKings 03-28-2021 09:09 AM

Re: WFT Free Agency
 
[quote=sevier2;1280371]Agreed. The entire league seems to recognize Terry as a legit #1. I'm surprised to see somebody on our own board doubting him.

Then again, I've seen plenty of GB fans complain about Aaron Rodgers...[/quote]

I can only imagine that is being said by someone I have on my ignore list. Terry Mac is clearly a number 1.

ThirdEyeSquad28 03-28-2021 02:45 PM

Re: WFT Free Agency
 
My take with what the football team should continue doing is building everything important around the QB (a STRONG o-line, versatile weapons WR/RB, and a STOUT Defense...that way, after Fitz...we have a perfect fit for a new rookie QB to succeed, or we become an attractive destination for a FA QB coming next year via release/trade.....on a team ready to compete RIGHT NOW...and every QB loves a good O-line....

With that being said...

I’m hoping we draft In our first several picks:

A Left tackle (will help our run game too)
An elite coverage safety (molden) or LB that’s excels in coverage (Collins)

I think we have made good improvements on offense, and Fitzmagic will help realize more of this offensive’s potentional compared to last year.

I’m all about continuing to complete this very good defense, a good LB/ safety will only help our d line thrive more...we need one elite athlete playing LB so we can capitalize on the havoc wrecked by our front 4

sdskinsfan2001 03-28-2021 04:54 PM

Re: WFT Free Agency
 
[quote=ThirdEyeSquad28;1280377]My take with what the football team should continue doing is building everything important around the QB (a STRONG o-line, versatile weapons WR/RB, and a STOUT Defense...that way, after Fitz...we have a perfect fit for a new rookie QB to succeed, or we become an attractive destination for a FA QB coming next year via release/trade.....on a team ready to compete RIGHT NOW...and every QB loves a good O-line....

With that being said...

I’m hoping we draft In our first several picks:

A Left tackle (will help our run game too)
An elite coverage safety (molden) or LB that’s excels in coverage (Collins)

I think we have made good improvements on offense, and Fitzmagic will help realize more of this offensive’s potentional compared to last year.

I’m all about continuing to complete this very good defense, a good LB/ safety will only help our d line thrive more...we need one elite athlete playing LB so we can capitalize on the havoc wrecked by our front 4[/quote]

Great 1st post! Welcome!!

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-28-2021 11:58 PM

Re: WFT Free Agency
 
so a 6'0" 210lb WR lacks size? Ok. I have heard it all now.

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-28-2021 11:59 PM

Re: WFT Free Agency
 
[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1280372]I can only imagine that is being said by someone I have on my ignore list. Terry Mac is clearly a number 1.[/quote]

He is now on my ignore list as well.

punch it in 03-29-2021 08:08 AM

Re: WFT Free Agency
 
[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1280381]He is now on my ignore list as well.[/QUOTE]



He should be moved from ignore to banned by the higher ups, he is a troll and obviously needs to go to work or at least get some fresh air because his mile long posts are obviously cutting into his productivity time. Lol.

punch it in 03-29-2021 08:09 AM

Re: WFT Free Agency
 
[QUOTE=ThirdEyeSquad28;1280377]My take with what the football team should continue doing is building everything important around the QB (a STRONG o-line, versatile weapons WR/RB, and a STOUT Defense...that way, after Fitz...we have a perfect fit for a new rookie QB to succeed, or we become an attractive destination for a FA QB coming next year via release/trade.....on a team ready to compete RIGHT NOW...and every QB loves a good O-line....



With that being said...



I’m hoping we draft In our first several picks:



A Left tackle (will help our run game too)

An elite coverage safety (molden) or LB that’s excels in coverage (Collins)



I think we have made good improvements on offense, and Fitzmagic will help realize more of this offensive’s potentional compared to last year.



I’m all about continuing to complete this very good defense, a good LB/ safety will only help our d line thrive more...we need one elite athlete playing LB so we can capitalize on the havoc wrecked by our front 4[/QUOTE]



Yeah this is exactly where Im at. Welcome.

Brummie Brave 03-29-2021 09:30 AM

Re: WFT Free Agency
 
[quote=punch it in;1280382]He should be moved from ignore to banned by the higher ups, he is a troll and obviously needs to go to work or at least get some fresh air because his mile long posts are obviously cutting into his productivity time. Lol.[/quote]

His mile long posts are cutting in to my productivity time as well, and I'm only reading them!

Chico23231 03-29-2021 09:38 AM

Re: WFT Free Agency
 
WR is so much more than about size. Route running is extremely overlooked, it’s what makes players like Terry so effect and what limits other guys.

I think being able to make contested catches and not dropping routine catches...it’s what held back The Sims brothers this past year.

MTK 03-29-2021 09:46 AM

Re: WFT Free Agency
 
Antonio Brown is 5-10 and about a buck 85 I don't think anyone questioned whether he was a true #1 or not based on his size.

AnonEmouse 03-29-2021 11:20 AM

Re: WFT Free Agency
 
Anyone heard of the Smurfs? ;)

Monkeydad 03-29-2021 12:29 PM

Re: WFT Free Agency
 
Humpy to wear #19.



Also, Russel Okung is out there, we need to go get him. The Chiefs are kicking the tires.


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