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^^ We'd be crazy to not look into it

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[quote=MTK;1277268]^^ We'd be crazy to not look into it[/quote]

If this team got Wilson or Watson, it's an instant contender

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1277261]Jones can make all the throws. Isn't he a bit of a statue, though? Is he mobile enough for our ideal offense?

Also, I have a problem in general in trying to imagine how a QB who has stood untouched behind a dominant OL and thrown to wide open receivers throughout his college career might do in the pros when he will be under pressure throwing to receivers who are much more closely covered.[/quote]

Isn't that what Tua had?

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1277272]Isn't that what Tua had?[/quote]

Oh, has Tua made it in the NFL, then? I hadn't noticed.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277271]If this team got Wilson or Watson, it's an instant contender[/quote]

Yup. I think for the first time in a long time, we seem to have the pieces (top defense, good running game, star WR, and whatever other positions we acquire in free agency) to be in a position where acquiring a top QB can make us into a playoff contender.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1277259]Good post.

I'd be willing to trade one of our two third round picks for Mariota.

I don't foresee our getting a QB we would want in the draft but stranger things have happened.[/quote]

Use that third to draft a QB rather than spend it on a QB that has had numerous opportunities but never showed moxy.

Still amazing that everyone is so ready to waste draft picks on retread QBs.

That 3rd round pick could be a FS, a CB, a #2 WR, etc.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277271]If this team got Wilson or Watson, it's an instant contender[/quote]

LOL.
No way.
First, why would Wilson who is complaining about blocking come here, one of the most dysfunctional franchises long-term, when we have no franchise LT, and only one above average lineman, Scherff?

We aren't getting Wilson. No one is. Houston will let him hold out before they trade him. NEVER going to happen.

Even if it did, we have a stud DL and not a single other elite unit, and only one player, McL, that any other team would honestly want or call anything approaching elite. We are 1-2 drafts from contending even with QB solved. Which is of course why trading for a QB is foolish.

The two SB teams were stacked with elite talent at every level, as were the teams that made deep playoff runs. We again beat ONE winning team this year, snuck into playoffs 7-9, losing record, got soundly beaten by the Bucs, and we're all the sudden a contender? Can I have some of what you're smoking?

If this team got Watson or Wilson, it would never contend, because it needs a TON more talent via draft, and we'd have to trade so much for these QBs that we couldn't acquire that talent.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1277261]Jones can make all the throws. Isn't he a bit of a statue, though? Is he mobile enough for our ideal offense?

Also, I have a problem in general in trying to imagine how a QB who has stood untouched behind a dominant OL and thrown to wide open receivers throughout his college career might do in the pros when he will be under pressure throwing to receivers who are much more closely covered.[/quote]

Good scouts and GMs can get a sense of how a QB will be in the pros. They throw out all the gravy plays, and look at the times things breakdown or he's under pressure, all QBs have such plays. While finding QBs still hard, many of the huge busts looked great on the gravy plays but horrible on the harder NFL-style plays, but scouts just ignored it.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1277274]Oh, has Tua made it in the NFL, then? I hadn't noticed.[/quote]

No he hasn't but with arguably more talent around him at Alabama he was rated as a top five talent that some in the Washington fanbase wanted to draft at No 2. Personally I am not a fan of Tua and was not interested in drafting him. This year has shown him to be less spectacular without the Alabama advantage. But at 19 with some better QB traits Mac Jones is not so outrageous a pick, I wouldn't be unhappy with it though I would rather not go QB at 19, either strengthen the rest of the team or trade it for a viable starter at QB

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Mac Jones seems like a career backup to me, I dunno, just doesn't get me excited

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[quote=Scalper;1277282]LOL.
No way.
First, why would Wilson who is complaining about blocking come here, one of the most dysfunctional franchises long-term, when we have no franchise LT, and only one above average lineman, Scherff?

We aren't getting Wilson. No one is. Houston will let him hold out before they trade him. NEVER going to happen.

Even if it did, we have a stud DL and not a single other elite unit, and only one player, McL, that any other team would honestly want or call anything approaching elite. We are 1-2 drafts from contending even with QB solved. Which is of course why trading for a QB is foolish.

The two SB teams were stacked with elite talent at every level, as were the teams that made deep playoff runs. We again beat ONE winning team this year, snuck into playoffs 7-9, losing record, got soundly beaten by the Bucs, and we're all the sudden a contender? Can I have some of what you're smoking?

If this team got Watson or Wilson, it would never contend, because it needs a TON more talent via draft, and we'd have to trade so much for these QBs that we couldn't acquire that talent.[/quote]

We just went to the playoffs, the rest of the NFC East is going to be not so good for the next year or so. We have a lot of young talented players under rookie contracts (Terry, Gibson, Allen, Payne, Chase, Curl) or on reasonable contracts (Matty I.).

I just don't understand this hesitation to getting a top flight QB. Hell, Tampa Bay just showed how a stacked team could not succeed with shitty QB play (Winston).

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"Watson has a list of teams, The 49ERS and Broncos are 2 of them that he's interested in"

Jeremy Fowler

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[quote=MTK;1277287]Mac Jones seems like a career backup to me, I dunno, just doesn't get me excited[/quote]

He's been compared to Eli Manning, great pocket awareness, accurate, average arm and can't move a lick

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277289]"Watson has a list of teams, The 49ERS and Broncos are 2 of them that he's interested in"

Jeremy Fowler[/quote]

And Jets. I've heard reports that's the top destination.

I don't understand it, but it's been out there.

[url]https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article248718210.html[/url]

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[quote=Monkeydad;1277291]And Jets. I've heard reports that's the top destination.

I don't understand it, but it's been out there.

[url]https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article248718210.html[/url][/quote]

Yeah I have not once heard Washington so that probably means it's a no

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[quote=Monkeydad;1277291]And Jets. I've heard reports that's the top destination.

I don't understand it, but it's been out there.

[url]https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article248718210.html[/url][/quote]

People assume the Jets, because they have the draft capital for such a trade. But I highly doubt Watson wants to go there.

49ers make sense, Denver doesn't make sense to me. Plus I can see Houston not wanting to trade Watson to another AFC team.

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[quote=Redskins247;1277262]This ^ Just don't trust him when he's had it so easy on that team. I could see him being another Ryan Mallett or Matt Cassel...talented, but just not quite good enough for NFL.[/quote]

You're talking like Alabama is the only tough team in the SEC.

Yes, they'll roll over none-conference opponents easily, but the SEC is no cakewalk. This is why you see so many top draft picks from SEC schools, not just Alabama.

Their schedule this year had no cupcake teams:

Missouri, Texas A&M, Ole Miss, Tennessee Georgia, Mississippi State, Kentucky, Auburn, LSU, Arkansas, Florida, Notre Dame and Ohio State.


I'd been repeating the plan of Alex Smith, Mac Jones and Taylor Heinicke being our QBs in 2021.

By the time Smith is finished, Mac should be ready and he would've had the best teacher in the NFL to learn from.

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[quote=MTK;1277287]Mac Jones seems like a career backup to me, I dunno, just doesn't get me excited[/quote]

One day I feel this exact same way* then the next day I think he's worth the risk at 19. Going to be interesting to see where he ends up.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1277300]One day I feel this exact same day then the next day I think he's worth the risk at 19. Going to be interesting to see where he ends up.[/quote]

He is that kind of player, better get used to it as they are all like that at 19 and above :D

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JP FINLAY said this is WFT twitter daily on QB Search lmao

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[quote=Monkeydad;1277294]You're talking like Alabama is the only tough team in the SEC.

Yes, they'll roll over none-conference opponents easily, but the SEC is no cakewalk. This is why you see so many top draft picks from SEC schools, not just Alabama.

Their schedule this year had no cupcake teams:

Missouri, Texas A&M, Ole Miss, Tennessee Georgia, Mississippi State, Kentucky, Auburn, LSU, Arkansas, Florida, Notre Dame and Ohio State.


I'd been repeating the plan of Alex Smith, Mac Jones and Taylor Heinicke being our QBs in 2021.

[B]By the time Smith is finished[/B], Mac should be ready and he would've had the best teacher in the NFL to learn from.[/quote]

Smith IS finished. Perhaps he hasn't come to terms with it yet, but he's done here..

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1277300]One day I feel this exact same day then the next day I think he's worth the risk at 19. Going to be interesting to see where he ends up.[/quote]

I just have a hard time believing he's a top 20 prospect and would be in the top 20 on anyone's draft board. Top 50 maybe.

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[quote=MTK;1277304]I just have a hard time believing he's a top 20 prospect and would be in the top 20 on anyone's draft board. Top 50 maybe.[/quote]

This is how I feel, and I wouldn't have a big problem taking a chance on him in the 2nd round, but I'm not willing to reach for him at #19.

All the mocks do seem to have him going before pick 20 though. It's a supply/demand issue at the most important position. Teams are willing to [U]not[/U] pick the best player available, and take a chance on a QB early. It's how we got Chase Young last year. He was the best player in the draft, but Cincinnati desperately needed a QB and selected Burrow.

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I'm sure many of you have read this too ... but hell .. [B]Heinicke is going to be the next Kurt Warner [/B](or Matt Flynn) ... we're good to go! (kidding)


[url]https://riggosrag.com/2021/02/12/taylor-heinicke-next-kurt-warner-next-matt-flynn/[/url]


Honestly, reading this breakdown, I had no idea Heinicke was roughly the same size as Kurt Warner, with a similar background of "minor league" experience, and team hopping. In my head, I guess I thought of Heinicke as this little dude we scraped off the trash heap to plug in and play because he knew our system. But he's definitely more than that.

And because our front office was responsible in how we signed him, there's really no way he can become the next Matt Flynn.

As the linked piece above also says, this does NOT mean we shouldn't find another QB to bring to the competition. But it does make me feel better about the [I]potentia[/I]l for Taylor Heinicke. He actually may [I]have[/I] some potential.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1277253]Oh I see. You think he could be like a Ryan Tannehill, the guy that came to Tennessee, replaced Mariota, played with the same players Mariota had, and made that team much better than it was with Mariota as the quarterback. Ok.[/quote]

Yeah. QBs have strengths, tendencies, and systems that suits them best. Tennessee did not fit Mariota’s skill set as well as Tannehill. See Trubisky. Nagy kept trying to force a round peg in a square hole and when Bill Laser took over play calling he started tailor things to Trubisky’s strengths and he started playing better. So yeah, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. And I appreciate your smug little hussy response by the way. 😉

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[quote=SkinzWin;1277316]Yeah. QBs have strengths, tendencies, and systems that suits them best. Tennessee did not fit Mariota’s skill set as well as Tannehill. See Trubisky. Nagy kept trying to force a round peg in a square hole and when Bill Laser took over play calling he started tailor things to Trubisky’s strengths and he started playing better. So yeah, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. And [B]I appreciate your smug little hussy response by the way.[/B] 😉[/quote]

Sorry you look at it that way.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1277319]Sorry you look at it that way.[/quote]

I’m just messing with you man. That’s why I added a fun little emoji face.

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JP FINLAY said this is WFT twitter daily on QB Search lmao[/QUOTE]He's not wrong. Rivera said they're exhausti big all options, and they should. But I don't see them making an overpriced swing at anyone. Stafford made sense, but they got out priced. Like it or not the offseason may very well be much quieter at QB than many expect.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1277323]He's not wrong. Rivera said they're exhausti big all options, and they should. But I don't see them making an overpriced swing at anyone. Stafford made sense, but they got out priced.[B] Like it or not the offseason may very well be much quieter at QB than many expect.[/B]

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That wouldn't bother me. We're making progress in building a contender and I like the approach that RR and his staff have taken so far. I'd rather not use up our draft picks or our cap space this year. Also, I am totally against trading an excellent young player as part of a deal for a QB. I wish the talk of trading Montez Sweat would end now. I'm fine with drafting a QB as long as it's not a reach or bringing in a reasonably priced FA QB to compete with the ones we already have on the roster.

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Per Michael Lombardi

“Washington is close to trading for Marcus Mariota, they are in serious talks with the Raiders”

Wow

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1277335]Per Michael Lombardi

“Washington is close to trading for Marcus Mariota, they are in serious talks with the Raiders”

Wow[/QUOTE]Depending on price i like that. I think the fit and QB competition is perfect. If it's #19 its the stupidest trade ever.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1277336]Depending on price i like that. I think the fit and QB competition is perfect. If it's #19 its the stupidest trade ever.

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If that's going to happen, I hope it's a player - straight up - and not a pick.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1277337]If that's going to happen, I hope it's a player - straight up - and not a pick.[/QUOTE]Who would you trade for him?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1277338]Who would you trade for him?

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Well, we're deepest on the D-line, so probably D Payne. I don't really like that idea, but I like it better than trading a pick from the first three rounds.

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I wouldn’t trade Payne for Mariota. For Carr yea but not for an injury history like Mariotas. Also let’s be honest, he’s really not that good. I think he could be a solid QB1 but is he someone that can carry a offense? No

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277335]Per Michael Lombardi

“Washington is close to trading for Marcus Mariota, they are in serious talks with the Raiders”

Wow[/quote]

Blah

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[QUOTE=MTK;1277341]Blah[/QUOTE]


He’s due to make $20M next year, they better reconstruct that shit. I’m not too high on this move either. Would much rather have Carr but apparently he’s not getting moved

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Pass. *yawn*

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277340]I wouldn’t trade Payne for Mariota. For Carr yea but not for an injury history like Mariotas. Also let’s be honest, he’s really not that good. I think he could be a solid QB1 but is he someone that can carry a offense? No[/quote]

It would take a lot more than Payne to trade for Carr.

Mariota does have an injury history. It doesn't help when you are sacked 155 times in 5 years.

Like I said, I don't particularly like the idea, but if they are going to make this move, I'd rather part with a player that we probably aren't going to be able to retain in two years, than part with a pick in the first 3 rounds.