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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1275160]All time, 4th quarter comebacks:

[B]7th all time, tied with John Elway[/B]

[url]https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/comebacks_career.htm[/url][/QUOTE]


Stafford is clutch as fuck. We’ve seen him do it to us a couple times. I’m all in on him if I’m Ron. [IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210124/14d3a3843400beba44c15eed0ab6d715.jpg[/IMG]

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I think Stafford is playing at a higher level then Alex when we first got Alex.

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I am so curious to see what the end price ends up being.

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[quote=mredskins;1275166]I think Stafford is playing at a higher level then Alex when we first got Alex.[/quote]

It’s not even close. Stafford is a much better, more accomplished QB in the league.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1275164]I don't know what the stats say, but with the increased protection of qb's by the league it seems the trend would be for more of them to have longer playing careers.

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This, and it's born out that the 2 positions with the most consistent 'oldest' retirement ages are kickers and QB's. In Stafford's case, while he has had injuries (and often played through them) he hasn't had any major injuries, and none to his shoulders, particularly his throwing arm.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1275168]I am so curious to see what the end price ends up being.

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I think it’s at least a first rounder. I think a 1 and a 3 is fair and gets it done.

The fact that Watson might be on the trade market helps from a supply/demand standpoint. But it’s possible two teams, like Indy and WFT, end up in a bidding war.

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[quote=Chico23231;1275169]It’s not even close. Stafford is a much better, more accomplished QB in the league.[/quote]

I was just saying this because folks were saying that if we got him it be like when we brought on A Smith.

Stafford has always been better then A Smith

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I think we all know how good Stafford is. He has played so well against us. However he is starting to get banged up and has misses some games.

I'm on the fence simply because of his age and durability. Not on the fence about his talent level. He still has an elite arm and accuracy.

The competition for him drives up the price and if it involves 2 1st rounders I'm passing.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1275165]Stafford is clutch as fuck. We’ve seen him do it to us a couple times. I’m all in on him if I’m Ron. [IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210124/14d3a3843400beba44c15eed0ab6d715.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Can't give him Sonny's number.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1275174]Can't give him Sonny's number.[/quote]

Yes you can.

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[quote=mredskins;1275172]I was just saying this because folks were saying that if we got him it be like when we brought on A Smith.

Stafford has always been better then A Smith[/quote]

I was agreeing with you! :food-smil

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1275171]I think it’s at least a first rounder. I think a 1 and a 3 is fair and gets it done.

The fact that Watson might be on the trade market helps from a supply/demand standpoint. But it’s possible two teams, like Indy and WFT, end up in a bidding war.[/QUOTE]


Watson is the #1 QB on some QB sites, depending on which stat you use. He’s #1 for yds this season - over 4800! The bidding will be insane for him. I’m starting to think we DON’T have the juice for that. Watson has the right of refusal and the WFT wasn’t on his top 2 list.

Trading up into the top 3 QB draft positions will also cost a lot. I could see the possibility for big trades to go for the best QB but the history is that the loser teams keep their spot to get the QB that they want.

Stafford lists around # 10 in the NFL. Part of that is just because he’s on “the Lions”. I have no doubt that Turner can get a lot more out of Stafford. I think the other big WFT FA hire will be for a big-name WR like: Galloway or Robinson. McLaurin, Galloway (possible FA pickup), Cam Sims, Harmon and a medium WR FA pickup. FA for the WFT: high-end WR and a medium WR pickup. I think Rivera will draft for the OL. Maybe more than just one pick. We need more talent and youth and depth in the OL.

Rivera will be working to fix and upgrade the offense and a couple defensive problem areas: FA for WR(s) & TE &. LB; draft for OL(s) & CB & S. That’s GREAT news for a QB coming to the WFT. High draft picks and youth and talent are planned for the OL, bring in top and middle talented FA WR, a TE to supplement Thomas. That’s what they’ll tell Stanford’s agent.

So why go for a QB who is in the top third of the passers in the NFL? Perhaps Rivera believes he can be IMPROVED with Turner’s offense. Definitely! Fix the WR, OL and TE. Stafford stats go up next season. Stafford gives us 5 seasons of top, clutch, QB play. We would INSTANTLY become a playoff team for the five years. Plus, if Stafford falters we have Heinicke as the backup!

I think Stafford will have a decent bidding competition but the trading required to get Watson will be INSANE! I also think it will take more than a 1st and a third to get Stafford. Too much competition, for him. I’m changing my prediction - I think Stafford may take a First in 2021 AND perhaps a Second in either 2021 or 2022.

I think the insane TRADE price for Watson will be TOO MUCH for the WFT. I don’t think the best draft picks will trade out - those teams want one of the best QB draft picks. That leaves us drafting the fifth or even sixth QB at 19.
So I think that Stafford makes the MOST SENSE for the WFT. I think the team will go for him. It just depends on what the other teams, who want Stafford, will bid for him. Probably right, 1st and THIRD, would be what he costs. NORMALLY. But I think the bidding will bring him up higher than that. Two 1st round picks to seal the deal. Maybe I’m overthinking this but still think the bidding will go higher!!


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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1275168]I am so curious to see what the end price ends up being.

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Exactly.

The price is what makes this difficult.

You easily go get Stafford IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT.

You easily avoid Stafford, if the price is wrong.


I wouldn't be upset if the Colts found another QB somewhere. They seem to be in the best position with their cap to compete with us for him.

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I'm torn.

As the VP of Global Operations of Heinickeee's Fan Club I've been advocating for a low key vet, to bring in for a legit starting QB competition.

But I've always thought Stafford is one of the most underrated players in the league, so if the price is right I wouldn't be opposed to it.

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1275184]Exactly.

The price is what makes this difficult.

You easily go get Stafford IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT.

You easily avoid Stafford, if the price is wrong.


I wouldn't be upset if the Colts found another QB somewhere. They seem to be in the best position with their cap to compete with us for him.[/quote]

Sums it up. If we get into a bidding war - hard pass. This team is not a qb away from contending, it's a qb, wr, 2nd TE, LB, and maybe a safety (if they want to do better than Jeremy Reaves at FS) away from contention.