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[quote=skinsfaninok;764209]^ hope u guys have fun.. Tell your son inlaw good luck over there.. As far as the game goes, NFC east dogfight again. Giants are the better team but their not that much better IMO. Should be a good one[/quote]

Thanks I will. As for the game ....when the NFC East plays....records go out the window.

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GREAT article on ESPN.com today by Rick Reilly about just this thing...

It really does suck that if I want to take my 2 kids... I better pay through the nose to get club seats or dream seats to make sure they dont have to see this ridiculous, idiotic stuff...

Here's the link:
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=5867055]More jerseys equals more mayhem at NFL games - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=Hail to the Redskins;764276]GREAT article on ESPN.com today by Rick Reilly about just this thing...

It really does suck that if I want to take my 2 kids... I better pay through the nose to get club seats or dream seats to make sure they dont have to see this ridiculous, idiotic stuff...

Here's the link:
[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=5867055"]More jerseys equals more mayhem at NFL games - ESPN[/URL][/quote]


I have sat in Club and Box seats plenty of times, I have seen plenty of idiots in those sections as well, less so in the box.

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[quote=Hail to the Redskins;764276]GREAT article on ESPN.com today by Rick Reilly about just this thing...

It really does suck that if I want to take my 2 kids... I better pay through the nose to get club seats or dream seats to make sure they dont have to see this ridiculous, idiotic stuff...

Here's the link:
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=5867055]More jerseys equals more mayhem at NFL games - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Very well written. The stories I'm hearing at NFL games are getting boarderline insane. Please tell me Verizon Center isn't like this for Caps games.

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[quote=Hail to the Redskins;764276]GREAT article on ESPN.com today by Rick Reilly about just this thing...

It really does suck that if I want to take my 2 kids... I better pay through the nose to get club seats or dream seats to make sure they dont have to see this ridiculous, idiotic stuff...

Here's the link:
[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=5867055"]More jerseys equals more mayhem at NFL games - ESPN[/URL][/quote]


This guy and 1st down are on to something about the jerseys.

I also think folks are coming in drunk, it would take a lot work to get drunk in the stadium considering the time and money it takes to get a beer. The real drunk folks are getting that way in the lots. Either police folks coming in that are too drunk or limit the time the lots open. The NFL is making no money off the alcohol being drunk in the parking lot.

What really baffles me is there is some mind set in the NFL that this is acceptable. I go to Sprint Car racing in PA during the summer you can bring in your own beer and you still don't see this the drunkenness that you see at a NFL game and the guys at the races are as blue collar as you can get.

Also the author should have referenced Halo:Reach not Halo 3 if he want this to be a current article, just say'n.

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ANYTIME you put 90,000 people together in a packed venue and throw alcohol into the mix, you are going to have fights. When people are drunk, they are prone to do stupid things (i know i have) and say stupid shit that we normally wouldn't say. I think the Redskins organization bears some blame as well with the opening of the tailgating lots far far in advance. Opening the lots at 12pm for a night game is just asking for trouble. I know what you are going to say, "it's not the Redskins organization that's making them drink that much", and I agree. That said, when people can't police themselves correctly, you do it for them.

People should show more respect in public places but it seems that's not the case. I think some issues spark when upper level people try to snag lower level seats and the people come back (or show up) and the fun begins.

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[quote=NC_Skins;764280]ANYTIME you put 90,000 people together in a packed venue and throw alcohol into the mix, you are going to have fights. When people are drunk, they are prone to do stupid things (i know i have) and say stupid shit that we normally wouldn't say. I think the Redskins organization bears some blame as well with the opening of the tailgating lots far far in advance. Opening the lots at 12pm for a night game is just asking for trouble. I know what you are going to say, "it's not the Redskins organization that's making them drink that much", and I agree. That said, when people can't police themselves correctly, you do it for them.

People should show more respect in public places but it seems that's not the case. I think some issues spark when upper level people try to snag lower level seats and the people come back (or show up) and the fun begins.[/quote]

Well the good news is that this type of behavior is prompting a backlash against the heavy drinking crowd. We've seen it alone in the responses in this thread. The Rick Riely article is just icing on the cake. Hopefully the next step is much stricter alcohol policies and tailgating regulations that prevent idiots like DTC from chugging bottles of Crown Royal before kickoff.

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95% of people at the game wear jerseys.

A fight affecting 10 people out of 90,000 = .1 % of fans affected in attendance

Alcohol helps win games. I see a lot of people at the games who are too shy to make any noise to help out the defense, but if they only had a couple beers...

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[quote=steveherrin;764285]95% of people at the game wear jerseys.

A fight affecting 10 people out of 90,000 = .1 % of fans affected in attendance

[B]Alcohol helps win games.[/B] I see a lot of people at the games who are too shy to make any noise to help out the defense, but if they only had a couple beers...[/quote]


Are you being serious? So at college games it is quiet as a library because no alcohol is served.

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I take my 8-yr old to several hockey games a year (she's a huge Hurricanes fan) and we never have had a problem. I've never taken her to an NFL game because I think every one I've ever been to has had at least one fight in the stands.
The article suggests limiting tailgating to 2 hours before kickoff which I think is a great idea but people who want to get black out drunk will, regardless of measures taken. These idiots will chug straight liquor ten minutes before kickoff if it is the only option they have.

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I also want to say at this point I rather bring my family to a bar to watch the NFL then the stadium.

When I went to Sly Fox this year it was a great time and there was no drama at all. Just folks drinking watching the game and having fun.

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I always laugh like the Dallas game was an 8-hour tail gate party at FedEx....8 HOURS of unlimited drunken debauchery and D hatin'. Bad time to be a Dallas fan.....lucky to get out alive

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[quote=skinsfaninok;764066]THis is why Beer isn't sold at college football games[/quote]

I'm at college right now, and trust me when I say EVERYONE shows up wasted. Plus college kids are poor and can't afford too many $9 beers. Alcohol being sold would not change much.

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Like beer not being sold at games is going to prevent college kids from showing up drunk, or sneak stuff in... lol

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[quote=skinster;764314]I'm at college right now, and trust me when I say EVERYONE shows up wasted. Plus college kids are poor and can't afford too many $9 beers. Alcohol being sold would not change much.[/quote]

True but atleast they are TRYING to prevent fights

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[quote=skinsfaninok;764321]True but atleast they are TRYING to prevent fights[/quote]

Contrary to popular belief, my personal opinion is they aren't trying to prevent anything. They know not selling alcohol affects almost zero percent of the students BAC. In my mind, the main reason is not to prevent disorderly conduct, but to give the appearance of preventing disorderly conduct to appease the public and to create an atmosphere and culture that coincides with the moral standards preached by the university.

I am complaining or saying that it is bs that they don't sell alcohol, cause in fact I don't care at all. I'm just saying that I believe the main motives for the rules are alterior to the ones stated.

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[quote=skinster;764342]Contrary to popular belief, my personal opinion is they aren't trying to prevent anything. They know not selling alcohol affects almost zero percent of the students BAC. In my mind, the main reason is not to prevent disorderly conduct, but to give the appearance of preventing disorderly conduct to appease the public and to create an atmosphere and culture that coincides with the moral standards preached by the university. .[/quote]
It's like the Blue Laws here in the South. Don't sell alcohol on Sunday morning and we all go to church. Otherwise, if I could buy bourbon on Sunday at 9am I'd be home wasted instead.
Crack is illegal but there are still crackheads.
:Smoker:

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Beer and alcohol is the major factor to this kind of behavior during NFL games. Rick Reilly is dead right. I would never take my kids to a NFL game just like I wouldn't take them to a bar. If beer is the major sponsor of an enterprise--then it's meant to be an adults only activity. And the difference for college games is that the tix are free for students so of course you'll have plastered kids coming into games. Ban some of these drunk NFL fans who have shelled out hundreds on tickets and then I think you'll see a change.

BTW--how many of you DON'T own a jersey? I'm curious because I have never had the inclination to buy a jersey. My brother-in-law has like 12 Steeler jerseys. He actually drinks too much too...

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[quote=rypper11;764355]It's like the Blue Laws here in the South. Don't sell alcohol on Sunday morning and we all go to church. Otherwise, if I could buy bourbon on Sunday at 9am I'd be home wasted instead.
Crack is illegal but there are still crackheads.
:Smoker:[/quote]

I HATE the Blue Laws. Typically I buy my beer for the game the night before and start drinking after breakfast. When I run out, it's lame because I have to find someone to drive me AND wait until noon to do so.

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[quote=NYCSkin;764430]Beer and alcohol is the major factor to this kind of behavior during NFL games. Rick Reilly is dead right. I would never take my kids to a NFL game just like I wouldn't take them to a bar. If beer is the major sponsor of an enterprise--then it's meant to be an adults only activity. And the difference for college games is that the tix are free for students so of course you'll have plastered kids coming into games. Ban some of these drunk NFL fans who have shelled out hundreds on tickets and then I think you'll see a change.

BTW--how many of you DON'T own a jersey? I'm curious because I have never had the inclination to buy a jersey. My brother-in-law has like 12 Steeler jerseys. He actually drinks too much too...[/quote]

I can honestly say I own probably 10 Jerseys and I don't drink at all