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While we are dealing with Fred Davis and Trent Williams known substance abuse issues (its an issue because they are multi-time offenders), why are we even considering drafting a player with serious character issues? Pass

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/06/andrew-luck-says-hes-absolutely-ready-for-the-nfl/]Andrew Luck says he’s “absolutely” ready for the NFL | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[url=http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2011/12/06/nfl-draft-order-derby-say-goodbye-to-barkley-and-griffin-as-dolphins-drop-from-5th-to-9th/]NFL Draft order derby: Say goodbye to Barkley and Griffin as Dolphins drop from 5th to 9th | The Daily Dolphin[/url]

After week 13, we are in the 5th position in terms of 1st round pick. I think with the suspensions, we might be able to up that to 4th, and get Barkley without spending additional picks........

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[quote=Mechanix544;865948][URL="http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2011/12/06/nfl-draft-order-derby-say-goodbye-to-barkley-and-griffin-as-dolphins-drop-from-5th-to-9th/"]NFL Draft order derby: Say goodbye to Barkley and Griffin as Dolphins drop from 5th to 9th | The Daily Dolphin[/URL]

After week 13, we are in the 5th position in terms of 1st round pick. I think with the suspensions, we might be able to up that to 4th, and get Barkley without spending additional picks........[/quote]


Vikings and Rams won't take a QB so if we end up 4th, which I still think we will get the 3rd pick, we will get a QB

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Indianapolis Colts 0-12
New England - Loss (L)
@Baltimore - Loss
Tennessee - Loss
Houston - Loss
@Jacksonville - Win

IND (1-15)

Minnesota Vikings 2-10
Denver - Loss (L)
@Detroit - Loss
New Orleans - Loss
@Washington - Win
Chicago -WIN

MIN (4-12)

St. Louis Rams 2-10
San Francisco - Loss (L)
@Seattle - Loss
Cincinnati - Loss
@Pittsburgh - Loss
San Francisco - Loss

STL (2-14)

Carolina Panthers 4-8
@Tampa Bay - Loss (W)
Atlanta - Loss
@Houston - Win
Tampa Bay - Win
@New Orleans - Loss

CAR (6-10)

Miami Dolphins 4-8
Oakland - Loss (W)
Philadelphia - Loss
@Buffalo - Win
@New England - Loss
New York Jets - Win

MIAMI (6-10)

Jacksonville Jaguars 3-9
San Diego - Win (L)
Tampa Bay - Loss
@Atlanta - Loss
@Tennessee - Loss
Indianapolis - Loss

JAGS (3-13)

Washington Redskins 4-8
New York Jets - Loss (L)
New England - Loss
@New York Giants - Loss
Minnesota - Loss
@Philadelphia - Loss

SKINS (4-12)



2012 Projected Draft Order **Note: Draft order subject to change**
1. Indianapolis Colts 1-15
2. ST. RAMS 2-14
3. Jacksonville Jags 3-13
4. Washington Redskins 4-12
5. Minnesota Vikings 4-12
6.Cleveland Browns 4-12
7.Tampa Bay 5-11
8. Carolina Panthers 6-10
9. KC Chiefs 6-10
10. ARZ Cardinals 6-10

Rams will move down to 4 and we will take Barkley at number 2.

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OK, if that is the situation, I wouldn't move up. I would stay put and take our chances.

I worry about Jax taking Matt B but even if they did we could take RGIII

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Jax has Gabbert with no help for him, they will take Jeffery or Blackmon.

Wait what???? Quake just said Blackmon will go in the top 5??!!! Lol

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He doesn't deserve it but it's based on need. Jax NEEDS a WR just as bad as we need a QB.

Indy- Luck (surprise of the draft)
Minnesota- Kalil
Jax- Blackmon
Washington- Barkley or RGIII (our choice)

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[quote=skinsfaninok;865950]Vikings and Rams won't take a QB so if we end up 4th, which I still think we will get the 3rd pick, we will get a QB[/quote]

How do you come to this? You think the Colts, Rams, Jaguars, and Browns are going to win more games than us down the stretch? Doubtful. Their offense and defense are both garbage. Then we will be in a tie with a lot of teams and could move up or down one or two spots just depending on the coin flip. You guys are way to optimistic about our chances of a high pick. I put us in the 5-7 range at best.

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[quote=SkinzWin;865984]How do you come to this? You think the Colts, Rams, Jaguars, and Browns are going to win more games than us down the stretch? Doubtful. Their offense and defense are both garbage. Then we will be in a tie with a lot of teams and could move up or down one or two spots just depending on the coin flip. You guys are way to optimistic about our chances of a high pick. I put us in the 5-7 range at best.[/quote]


I think 4 is about right, never said the colts or rams would win more than us but I do think 4 is reasonable.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;865972]He doesn't deserve it but it's based on need. Jax NEEDS a WR just as bad as we need a QB.

Indy- Luck (surprise of the draft)
Minnesota- Kalil
Jax- Blackmon
Washington- Barkley or RGIII (our choice)[/quote]


Right Right LOL You know your a JB Fan

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Luck definitely coming out now.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d824c89e1/article/stanford-qb-luck-im-absolutely-prepared-to-try-the-nfl?module=HP11_content_stream]NFL.com news: Stanford QB Luck: I'm 'absolutely' prepared to try the NFL[/url]

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[quote=Alvin Walton;866013]Luck definitely coming out now.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d824c89e1/article/stanford-qb-luck-im-absolutely-prepared-to-try-the-nfl?module=HP11_content_stream]NFL.com news: Stanford QB Luck: I'm 'absolutely' prepared to try the NFL[/url][/quote]

An interesting addendum to your post:

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/06/archie-manning-doubts-that-peyton-and-andrew-luck-want-to-be-teammates/]Archie Manning doubts that Peyton and Andrew Luck want to be teammates | ProFootballTalk[/url]

It's from PFT so take it with a grain of salt.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;866010]Right Right LOL You know your a JB Fan[/quote]

Not saying I am not a fan, I am saying he isn't the 2nd coming of Jerry rice like you think he is.

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What about Jeff Demps in the 5th round or so. Fast as hell could be a good backup to Helu if Hightower doesnt return and can help out in the return game if need be.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;866017]Not saying I am not a fan, I am saying he isn't the 2nd coming of Jerry rice like you think he is.[/quote]


Well I never said Jerry Rice but I do compare him to Calvin Johnson

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All I know is that whoever takes Dwight Jones is gonna be so set at WR...............we need to pick this guy up.......

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2H6Ac6-Z0c]ACC Player of the Week - UNC's Dwight Jones - YouTube[/url]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA1G_w2kfj0&feature=related]Dwight Jones vs Florida State - YouTube[/url]

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[quote=mbedner3420;866016]An interesting addendum to your post:

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/06/archie-manning-doubts-that-peyton-and-andrew-luck-want-to-be-teammates/"]Archie Manning doubts that Peyton and Andrew Luck want to be teammates | ProFootballTalk[/URL]

It's from PFT so take it with a grain of salt.[/quote]


That means that Peyton does not want Luck drafted by Indy.... Uh Oh maybe some controversy brewing..

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[quote=Mechanix544;866021]All I know is that whoever takes Dwight Jones is gonna be so set at WR...............we need to pick this guy up.......[/quote]


Sorry but who?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;866023]Sorry but who?[/quote]

Look him up. From UNC think Marcus Colston but not injury proned

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[quote=skinsfaninok;866020]Well I never said Jerry Rice but I do compare him to Calvin Johnson[/quote]

Justin Blackmon is NOT Calvin Johnson, how are they even similar????

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;866025]Justin Blackmon is NOT Calvin Johnson, how are they even similar????[/quote]


I'm not saying they are the same I'm saying they both were great college WRs that were (will) be drafted top 5.

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Ok thanks for the links I'll check em out

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[quote=skinsfaninok;866026]I'm not saying they are the same I'm saying they both were great college WRs that were (will) be drafted top 5.[/quote]

So was Charles Johnson.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;866027]Ok thanks for the links I'll check em out[/quote]

look at the game of him against Louisville as well.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;866029]So was Charles Johnson.[/quote]


Keep doubting JB.. He'll show you in 2012 while catching bombs from Sam in STL

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;866030]look at the game of him against Louisville as well.[/quote]

will do

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[quote=skinsfaninok;866031]Keep doubting JB.. He'll show you in 2012 while catching bombs from Sam in STL[/quote]

Not doubting his ability to be a good WR in the NFL but he could also be a bust. Nothing is set in stone. I am saying that he is not better than Dez Bryant coming out. Could he be a top3 wr in the nfl? Sure. Do I think he will be a top 3 WR in the NFL? Not 100% sold on it just yet.

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Agreed

Oh and Jones guy 6'4 4.5 Forty not bad I'd consider him at TE also

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[quote=skinsfaninok;866035]Agreed

Oh and Jones guy 6'4 4.5 Forty not bad I'd consider him at TE also[/quote]

I wouldn't. Too much of a playmaker at WR. Plus we have Cooley and Davis.

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nah, he is too lean for TE, plus, we got two of those, and Paulsen is definitely serviceable, so........

I doubt that he will fall to the second round, but if he does, we would be stupid not to draft this stud. This guy reminds me of Vincent Jackson, hopefully without the ego. He runs excellent deep routes, and with a little practice running his route tree and packing on a couple lbs, he could be our number one for years to come. I really think Dwight Jones is going to be an elite player.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;866045]I wouldn't. Too much of a playmaker at WR. Plus we have Cooley and Davis.[/quote]

yeah, apparently he has been clocked as low as 4.41.

Pair that speed and length with Moss, Hankerson, Fred Davis and a capable young quarterback and you might be onto something. If our offensive line stays healthy, I could see the offense making a complete 180 in a fairly short amount of time. It all hinges on this years draft though.

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[quote=Mechanix544;866048]yeah, apparently he has been clocked as low as 4.41.

Pair that speed and length with Moss, Hankerson, Fred Davis and a capable young quarterback and you might be onto something. If our offensive line stays healthy, I could see the offense making a complete 180 in a fairly short amount of time. It all hinges on this years draft though.[/quote]

Yeah the trio of Moss, Hankerson, and Jones would be sick.

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[quote=Mechanix544;866048]yeah, apparently he has been clocked as low as 4.41.

Pair that speed and length with Moss, Hankerson, Fred Davis and a capable young quarterback and you might be onto something. If our offensive line stays healthy, I could see the offense making a complete 180 in a fairly short amount of time. It all hinges on this years draft though.[/quote]

Don't think he is THAT fast though. More in the 4.5 range.

What if cc is gone? Plus Fred is a FA

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I would not be surprised at all if the first of our first round picks isn't a QB

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[quote=SmootSmack;866098]I would not be surprised at all if the first of our first round picks isn't a QB[/quote]

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[quote=SmootSmack;866098]I would not be surprised at all if the first of our first round picks isn't a QB[/quote]

So you're saying we'll find a team with multiple 1st round picks in this year's draft that will want our position badly enough to give us both of them?