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I would be shocked if doughty wasn't on the team.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;931073]I would be shocked if doughty wasn't on the team.[/quote]

shocked with tears-flowing joy? I know I will be

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Hatters!
I'm buying a Doughty jersey right now!

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The thing about Doughty is if Jackson starts turning it on the rest of preseason which he has the ability to do then I think hes gone. Yes, Daughty is a good guy and solid in run support but is a liability in coverage. Willaims has leap frogged him on the depth chart and Gomes has kinda been flying under the radar with a solid camp and first preseason game. Gomes is also a Shanny draft pick and Doughty is not. I Jackson comes to play the next few weeks then his boy Morris will bang the table for him to get a spot. Doughty has no ties to this coaching staff and hasnt done anything in camp to impress.

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Doughty will be on the roster. Despite his lacking coverage skills, he's one of the surest tacklers in the NFL statistically. He rarely misses a tackle.

[URL]http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2010/03/11/tackling-inefficiency-rating-part-2-%E2%80%93-safeties/[/URL]




Tanard Jackson, unfortunately has been one of the worst-tackling safeties in the NFL for 3 years. He's missed 43 tackles in the last 3 seasons, with 114 tackles. Look at that ratio! In 2011, Tanard attempted 57 tackles and missed 24 of them!

[URL]http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/06/three-years-of-tackling-efficiency-defensive-backs/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/01/25/2011-tackling-the-safeties/[/URL]



Reed's decent as a backup. We've just had to use him as a starter though, a role he's not up for.


While looking at stats, D-Hall and Cedric Griffin are two of the better run-stop CBs in the league.

[URL]http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/05/05/2011-run-stop-percentage-cornerbacks/[/URL]



I know Tanard Jackson has some playmaking ability that Doughty lacks, but his tackling stats scare me. I'm hoping someone can really step up to be a solid backup. Whether it's Doughty, Gomes or Barnes, I don't care, but if we're relying on Tanard Jackson to save us, we're going to be cursing a lot this season. He appears to be one of the worst tacklers in the league.




Want a laugh? Read this:

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/21436-reed-doughty-excellent-tackler.html[/URL]

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[quote=Monkeydad;931114]Doughty will be on the roster. Despite his lacking coverage skills, he's one of the surest tacklers in the NFL statistically. He rarely misses a tackle.

[URL]http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2010/03/11/tackling-inefficiency-rating-part-2-%E2%80%93-safeties/[/URL]




Tanard Jackson, unfortunately has been one of the worst-tackling safeties in the NFL for 3 years. He's missed 43 tackles in the last 3 seasons, with 114 tackles. Look at that ratio! In 2011, Tanard attempted 57 tackles and missed 24 of them!

[URL]http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/06/three-years-of-tackling-efficiency-defensive-backs/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/01/25/2011-tackling-the-safeties/[/URL]



Reed's decent as a backup. We've just had to use him as a starter though, a role he's not up for.


While looking at stats, D-Hall and Cedric Griffin are two of the better run-stop CBs in the league.

[URL]http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/05/05/2011-run-stop-percentage-cornerbacks/[/URL]



I know Tanard Jackson has some playmaking ability that Doughty lacks, but his tackling stats scare me. I'm hoping someone can really step up to be a solid backup. Whether it's Doughty, Gomes or Barnes, I don't care, but if we're relying on Tanard Jackson to save us, we're going to be cursing a lot this season. He appears to be one of the worst tacklers in the league.




Want a laugh? Read this:

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/21436-reed-doughty-excellent-tackler.html[/URL][/quote]

I think you just made the argument not to keep Doughty around. We have two of the best CB's at doing it and the tackling machines that are Fletcher and Riley. Now we need someone to make big plays and cover.

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How can we splice Jackson and Doughty together to get Jackson's playmaking ability and Doughty's tackling? Mods, get to work on this.

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[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/nfl-rapidreports/19802225/redskins-projected-roster-getting-to-53]Redskins Projected Roster: Getting to 53 - CBSSports.com[/url]

Keim update on the roster battles

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[quote=That Guy;930908]OG: Lichtensteiger, Chester, Hurt, Gettis (leribeus to PS)[/quote]

You actually think a 3rd round pick is going on the PS??

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[quote=NC_Skins;931132]You actually think a 3rd round pick is going on the PS??[/quote]

Yeah, not gonna happen.

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[quote=NC_Skins;931132]You actually think a 3rd round pick is going on the PS??[/quote]

Not a chance.

I could see Crawford going to PS with Robinson opening the season as our returner, unless Banks somehow makes the team.

I'd also like to see Banks get a shot to keep his job this preseason with someone other than Grossman throwing to him. Bad Rex was definitely showed up against the Bills...he couldn't get the ball anywhere close to his receivers. I like that we were going to Banks to test him at WR and see what he could do, but he didn't have much of a chance with Rex's lame duck passes.

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Competition has proved to be very effective on this team. There will be some tough cuts and a guy or two will likely land with another team. That being said, it seems like more than ever players want to be a part of this organization.

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well, if someone else can play C, they'd cut cook instead, but they aren't keeping 10+ OL and mcrib was picked in the 3rd round, but he wouldn't have been a 3rd round pick for 95% of teams.

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Cook isn't making it over Josh L, who by the way has been learning center.

Some other team would sign him off the PS in a second.

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The Rib's versatility will carve him a spot.

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I'm so on the fence regarding Banks .. one day I know he won't make it then the next I think well he has a shot and is so sick at returns .. if he could somehow grow (no pun intended) into the role of a WR it could be such a weapon .. my gut tells me he makes the team but it's tough and I think it will push AA out of town.

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[quote=DCtoAZ;931173]I'm so on the fence regarding Banks .. one day I know he won't make it then the next I think well he has a shot and is so sick at returns .. if he could somehow grow (no pun intended) into the role of a WR it could be such a weapon .. my gut tells me he makes the team but it's tough and I think it will push AA out of town.[/quote]

I get as giddy as a school-girl when he's back to return, but then I remember that he weighs less than my poodle..

If he's used correctly, I think he could be an asset. I'm thinking Option-type scenarios. But as a receiver, he's just far too small. He can't escape if a defender gets a finger on him.

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Everyone loves Rudy, I mean Banks, because he is an underdog. He has value, but we aren't a deep enough team for him to be just a return specialist. Robinson and Crawford can both return and have added depth value.

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Sorry but Banks is a waste of a spot. Would have been a keeper in the tradition of BMitchell or the "X Factor" but since they vOted to move the kickoff line up- every kick goes out of bounds and he's only 5'7" 150lbs. Watching him as a WR is just too painful. Cut him now, it's too late for him to Play with the big boys and give Briscoe and Aldrick a chance to compete. Personally I'd rather get Paul reps than watch a midget like Banks flop all over the field.

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[quote=SkinsHulk;931190]Sorry but Banks is a waste of a spot. Would have been a keeper in the tradition of BMitchell or the "X Factor" but since they vOted to move the kickoff line up- every kick goes out of bounds and he's only 5'7" 150lbs. Watching him as a WR is just too painful. Cut him now, it's too late for him to Play with the big boys and give Briscoe and Aldrick a chance to compete. Personally I'd rather get Paul reps than watch a midget like Banks flop all over the field.[/quote]

I agree. Returners don't matter as much after the rule change -- and aside from early last year, Banks hasn't been lighting up the returns anyway. Watching him last game at WR was embarassing.

I'd rather give Briscoe a chance than a small underperforming WR who only does returns.

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Give me Robinson and Briscoe at the bottom of our WR corp.. Banks is fast, no doubt but his effectiveness is surely stunted by the new kickoff rules and there's no way he's able to be an NFL WR. I think Briscoe is key because he's got the size and hands to backup Hankerson at the 'big' WR spot.

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We could use Briscoe's size for sure.

How about our whatever and goal package as Davis, Paul (or Cooley), Briscoe, Hankerson, and Morris. Seems like it could do some damage.

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[url=http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2012/08/will-rex-make-the-53.html]Will Rex make the 53? - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

I think RG3 version 1.0 should be cut, I just can't see it happening. Apparently I am not alone.

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I really thought Cousins, despite being a rookie and throwing a pick, looked dramatically better than Grossman against the Bills. He did get into the game in the 2nd quarter, so it was still a decent Buffalo D on the field.

Grossman just looked like utter garbage. The "veteran leader" QB should not come into the game and complete 20% of his passes. Most of his throws were nowhere near the receivers. The only thing missing was a sack-fumble.

No matter who comes in if RGIII is injured, it's going to be a huge drop-off. For the sake of our future, we should get Cousins some experience. We know what Rex can do...turn the ball over.

Crompton is a more than competent 3rd-string QB.

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unfortunately, with cousins throwing like 3-4 picks a day in practice, the idea of ditching rex isn't going to get very far. I'd like to as well, but cousins hasn't played well enough to make that happen. we've definitely got an extra RB or LB (or gomes) that could use that spot though.

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Yea, we thoughts cousins was a luxury pick we didn't really have. I guess MS and BA really took the gamble that they could turn him into a valuable trade option. Time will tell.

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Rex has looked solid enough in practice, he's not going anywhere. Hell I wouldn't even play him during the preseason. Get RG3 and Cousins all the snaps they can get.

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Any word on Jonathan Crompton? Will he see action this preseason or have the coaches already slated him for the practice squad yet again?

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;931371]Any word on Jonathan Crompton? Will he see action this preseason or have the coaches already slated him for the practice squad yet again?[/quote]

Yeah, the latest word out of redskins park is he's going to be cut, because he's a fourth string QB!

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[quote=CultBrennan59;931378]Yeah, the latest word out of redskins park is he's going to be cut, because he's a fourth string QB![/quote]

Which in turn means that he will go right back to the practice squad if he clears waivers once he's cut. But they should give this young man a chance to show what he can do. Maybe they are waiting until Rex retires to bump Crompton up to 3rd string.

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they had a QB on the PS last year because they only kept 2 on the active roster. If they keep 3 (i cant imagine they won't) why waste the spot on the PS?

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QB: Griffin, Rex, Cousins
RB: Royster, Helu, Morris (Hightower sucked last year and will suck this year)
FB: Young
TE: Davis, Paul, Cooley
WR: Garcon, Moss, Hankerson, Morgan, Briscoe, Robinson
OT: Williams, Brown, Polumbus, Compton
OG: Lichtensteiger, Chester, Gettis, Hurt
C: Montgomery, LeRibeus

DT: Cofield, Baker
DE: Carriker, Bowen, Jenkins, Gholston
OLB: Orakpo, Kerrigan, White, Jackson
ILB: Fletcher, Riley, Alexander, Kehl, Robinson
FS: Jackson, Williams, Gomes
SS: Meriweather, Doughty
CB: Hall, Wilson, Barnes, Crawford

ST: Gano, Rocca, Sundberg

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[quote=IrMitchell;931910]QB: Griffin, Rex, Cousins
RB: Royster, Helu, Morris (Hightower sucked last year and will suck this year)
FB: Young
TE: Davis, Paul, Cooley
WR: Garcon, Moss, Hankerson, Morgan, Briscoe, Robinson
OT: Williams, Brown, Polumbus, Compton
OG: Lichtensteiger, Chester, Gettis, Hurt
C: Montgomery, LeRibeus

DT: Cofield, Baker
DE: Carriker, Bowen, Jenkins, Gholston
OLB: Orakpo, Kerrigan, White, Jackson
ILB: Fletcher, Riley, Alexander, Kehl, Robinson
FS: Jackson, Williams, Gomes
SS: Meriweather, Doughty
CB: Hall, Wilson, Barnes, Crawford

ST: Gano, Rocca, Sundberg[/quote]

They will keep Hightower because they think he is such an all around back. I don't always see it either except for third downs but he will make the roster.

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So when's the first round of cuts?

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[quote=IrMitchell;931910]QB: Griffin, Rex, Cousins
RB: Royster, Helu, Morris (Hightower sucked last year and will suck this year)
FB: Young
TE: Davis, Paul, Cooley
WR: Garcon, Moss, Hankerson, Morgan, Briscoe, Robinson
OT: Williams, Brown, Polumbus, Compton
OG: Lichtensteiger, Chester, Gettis, Hurt
C: Montgomery, LeRibeus

DT: Cofield, Baker
DE: Carriker, Bowen, Jenkins, Gholston
OLB: Orakpo, Kerrigan, White, Jackson
ILB: Fletcher, Riley, Alexander, Kehl, Robinson
FS: Jackson, Williams, Gomes
SS: Meriweather, Doughty
CB: Hall, Wilson, Barnes, Crawford

ST: Gano, Rocca, Sundberg[/quote]

Great prediction...however, I think they may make room for Paulsen and Banks...perhaps by cutting another LBs like Kehl and another Oline, like compton or brown

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the problem with not keeping hightower is that royster is the only other RB they really trust to pass block right now, and if he gets hurt, well, that'd suck for girffin.

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[quote=The Dull Roar;931947]So when's the first round of cuts?[/quote]

Down to 80 on the 28th, 53 on the 31st

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[quote=That Guy;931981]the problem with not keeping hightower is that royster is the only other RB they really trust to pass block right now, and if he gets hurt, well, that'd suck for girffin.[/quote]
Yeah but a runningback's first priority is to run. Hightower is by far the worst of the 4 runners we can go with this season.

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[quote=IrMitchell;931910]QB: Griffin, Rex, Cousins
RB: Royster, Helu, Morris (Hightower sucked last year and will suck this year)
FB: Young
TE: Davis, Paul, Cooley
WR: Garcon, Moss, Hankerson, Morgan, Briscoe, Robinson
OT: Williams, Brown, Polumbus, Compton
OG: Lichtensteiger, Chester, Gettis, Hurt
C: Montgomery, LeRibeus

DT: Cofield, Baker
DE: Carriker, Bowen, Jenkins, Gholston
OLB: Orakpo, Kerrigan, White, Jackson
ILB: Fletcher, Riley, Alexander, Kehl, Robinson
FS: Jackson, Williams, Gomes
SS: Meriweather, Doughty
CB: Hall, Wilson, Barnes, Crawford

ST: Gano, Rocca, Sundberg[/quote]
I think this is pretty spot on.. I'd take Brown off for Willie Smith (Brown won't get healthy) and I doubt we keep 5 ILB (Hightower is making the team, locked) but otherwise it's tough to quibble with your 53. I wish Dougty and Barnes weren't on the roster but it is what it is.

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I don't think we'll be keeping 10 OL. kehl also looked bad yesterday, but he's had a decent camp. I don't know. i believe i can get the top 46-48 with 99% certainty, it's just those last 5 spots.

robinson crawford and paulsen were the only guys that really helped themselves this game. everyone else already has a spot or didn't really impress.