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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1172087]I know it's training camp/preseason, but I love that the team all seems to be moving in the same direction, no drama as of yet, and a lot of basic positive reviews. It's got to show up on the field, but this seems like it could be a real good season.[/quote]

I have said it before but this the propaganda part of the season. I have learned not to get to high on those reports. Other then injury reports; show me one team that has reports coming saying they look like complete crap this year; don't bother watching them or coming to any of their games.

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I get that point, but look at our last 4 training camps and you will find a lot of drama laden reporting. Mostly around the qb issues, but also around our secondary and various players. This camp has a stronger positive sense than any that I recently remember.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1172087]I know it's training camp/preseason, but I love that the team all seems to be moving in the same direction, no drama as of yet, and a lot of basic positive reviews. It's got to show up on the field, but this seems like it could be a real good season.[/quote]

Well Denver's coach basically said his QB'S stunk in practice. He wasn't even trying to hide it. But you're correct, every team basically does the same thing. It's always spun how great everyone looks, blah blah blah.

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[quote=mredskins;1172088]I have said it before but this the propaganda part of the season. I have learned not to get to high on those reports. Other then injury reports; show me one team that has reports coming saying they look like complete crap this year; don't bother watching them or coming to any of their games.[/quote]

Well, this year -
The Ravens have had a week long Colin Kapernik fest as well as a starting OL decide to up and retire over the CTE report

The Jaguars had a guy they brought in for a 7th round pick up and quit

And Skinsfan69 pointed to Denver's qb situation.

Throw in Dallas' Lucky issue and NYG's OBJ salary talk.

And ours is a down right happy place.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1172096]Well, this year -
The Ravens have had a week long Colin Kapernik fest as well as a starting OL decide to up and retire over the CTE report

The Jaguars had a guy they brought in for a 7th round pick up and quit

And Skinsfan69 pointed to Denver's qb situation.

Throw in Dallas' Lucky issue and NYG's OBJ salary talk.

And ours is a down right happy place.
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Tannehill may have jacked up that partially torn ACL from late last season. Sterling Shepherd got carted off (glad to hear he'll be ok). The Chargers may be without both their 1st and 2nd round picks all season... And don't forget about Zeke Elliott's looming suspension. I agree with you, I'm good with where we are from a lack of injury/drama.

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[quote=GMScud;1172097]Tannehill may have jacked up that partially torn ACL from late last season. Sterling Shepherd got carted off (glad to hear he'll be ok). The Chargers may be without both their 1st and 2nd round picks all season... And don't forget about Zeke Elliott's looming suspension. I agree with you, I'm good with where we are from a lack of injury/drama.[/quote]

chargers got totally screwed...im totally good with drama free. I don't want to hear our name in the media. 9.9 out of 10 its negative.

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I wish to god someone would have sign Kap because this bullshit of everytime a QB has a hint of an injury the sports media goes into their typical dumb shit speech and rehash all this crap. Nevermind that the guy sucks at football.

could you imagine if Tebow got a call before Kap? sports media would be jerking off for weeks. they would love it.

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[quote=Chico23231;1172100]chargers got totally screwed...im totally good with drama free. I don't want to hear our name in the media. 9.9 out of 10 its negative.[/quote]


While I understand you mean camp the league looks at the "off season" and yours was less than quiet.

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[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/32192/after-two-achilles-injuries-junior-galette-says-hes-better-than-ever]After two Achilles injuries, Junior Galette says he's better than ever - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

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[quote=Giantone;1172102]While I understand you mean camp the league looks at the "off season" and yours was less than quiet.[/quote]

Once SM was fired our offseason was quiet. The media put out a LOT of noise around KC but at this point you have to think both sides knew early on that no deal would be reached, and there really wasn't real drama, just fan and media created hype. Overall, for the team as a whole this feels like it has been a very productive offseason.

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wow read a lil bit of the critique of the Cowboys game last...lol. Not good getting carved up by Blaine Gabbert...even though you will see the fake headlines that the stars sat, the cowboys secondary and dl played. They got lit the fuck up.

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[quote=Chico23231;1172115]wow read a lil bit of the critique of the Cowboys game last...lol. Not good getting carved up by Blaine Gabbert...even though you will see the fake headlines that the stars sat, the cowboys secondary and dl played. They got lit the fuck up.[/quote]

Watching the game right now, they got dissected by Gabbert. Not many staters but some of them played. Their secondary is gonna stink even more than last year.

Their O-line still looks great though, their new LT had a field day.

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I can't wait to see how some of our Defenders match up against other teams.

The "homer" reports sound positive...just hope it translates when we play other teams.

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[quote=Bangee7;1172123]I can't wait to see how some of our Defenders match up against other teams.

The "homer" reports sound positive...just hope it translates when we play other teams.[/quote]

I'm interested to see how doctson, Pryor and crowder match up against the Cowboys and Eagles secondary....I'm hearing bad things about both.

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[url=http://www.redskins.com/team/depth-chart.html]Redskins.com | Depth Chart[/url]

First depth chart is out. Phil Taylor at nose...Preston smith still starter.

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[quote=Chico23231;1172125][url=http://www.redskins.com/team/depth-chart.html]Redskins.com | Depth Chart[/url]

First depth chart is out. Phil Taylor at nose...Preston smith still starter.[/quote]

Definitely hope this is not our depth chart on the defensive side come September.

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Lol it never holds too much water this time of year, dont sweat it.

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I have a feeling that Breeland is going to play his way out of this team this season. From [URL="http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0686229589218826864-4"]Keim[/URL]:

"During the walk-through corner Bashaud Breeland jammed Terrelle Pryor hard, which the receiver didn't like. It led to an exchange of words and coach Jay Gruden shouting, "Get me another corner in there!" Tevin Homer replaced him."

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[quote=Ruhskins;1172135]I have a feeling that Breeland is going to play his way out of this team this season. From [URL="http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0686229589218826864-4"]Keim[/URL]:

"During the walk-through corner Bashaud Breeland jammed Terrelle Pryor hard, which the receiver didn't like. It led to an exchange of words and coach Jay Gruden shouting, "Get me another corner in there!" Tevin Homer replaced him."[/quote]

From some reports...Breeland been terrible so far in camp.

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[quote=Chico23231;1172136]From some reports...Breeland been terrible so far in camp.[/quote]

And it seems that Gruden [URL="https://twitter.com/MikeJonesWaPo/status/894576543204290563"]kicked him out of camp[/URL].

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Not good...we got killed last year at the boundary corner spot opposite Norman all year long. We must get better there.

Fuller has looked great...put him at Boundary

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I can't imagine the Redskins offering him a LTD after this year. The guy is a baby and is still bitter about Norman's contract. No need to act like a tough guy during a walk through.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1172135]I have a feeling that Breeland is going to play his way out of this team this season. From [URL="http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0686229589218826864-4"]Keim[/URL]:

"During the walk-through corner Bashaud Breeland jammed Terrelle Pryor hard, which the receiver didn't like. It led to an exchange of words and coach Jay Gruden shouting, "Get me another corner in there!" Tevin Homer replaced him."[/quote]

Maybe he is gets beat out by Fuller.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1172139]I can't imagine the Redskins offering him a LTD after this year. The guy is a baby and is still bitter about Norman's contract. No need to act like a tough guy during a walk through.[/quote]

[url=http://www.richmond.com/redskins-xtra/redskins-cornerback-bashaud-breeland-is-launching-a-rap-career/article_7fba96a1-3ab9-5101-93be-9a07d0e46a85.html]Redskins cornerback Bashaud Breeland is launching a rap career | Redskins XTRA | richmond.com[/url]

well looks like he has a rap career to fall back on...

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Lawd! Hopefully Fuller is able to step up. I'm not a huge fan of Breeland, especially after last sesason.

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[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2017/08/07/bashaud-breeland-kicked-off-field-by-jay-gruden-during-walk-through/?utm_term=.d27cf732cc24[/url]

Bashaud Breeland kicked off field by Jay Gruden during walk-through



Heard Bree is first one on the field this afternoon for 3'oclock practice...hopefully that fire got lit this morning.

Bree got a lot to prove this year

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To be honest I'm not really impressed with Norman either. He is not worth the money and I don't see how they re-sign him after this season. He plays hard and all, but he makes way too many stupid mistakes with flags. He is a system corner, not a man up corner. He simply doesn't have the top end speed to play one on one with the big dogs. i just hope the pass rush is better so these guys in the secondary don't have to cover very long.

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maybe the skirmish will get breeland going . . . [URL="http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/wsh/washington-redskins"]Source (ESPN):[/URL]

[quote]Corner Bashaud Breeland intercepted quarterback Kirk Cousins, stepping in front of receiver Ryan Grant. It would have been a pick six.[/quote]

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Per Keim Oline information- Rookie report: Undrafted free agent guard Kyle Kalis continues to work ahead of Arie Kouandjio with the second offensive line. Kalis has been more consistent, both in one-on-one and full-team work. Kalis hasn't been perfect, but he has shown good technique and vision – he did a nice job seeing and picking up a blitzing corner in full-team work Monday. Kalis has a long way to go to earn a roster spot, but he's at least opened eyes early in camp.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1172140]Maybe he is gets beat out by Fuller.[/quote]

Yep, I wont be surprised to see him grab the starting position sooner than later.
Breeland is being a dick in a few different ways.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1172147]To be honest I'm not really impressed with Norman either. He is not worth the money and I don't see how they re-sign him after this season. He plays hard and all, but he makes way too many stupid mistakes with flags. He is a system corner, not a man up corner. He simply doesn't have the top end speed to play one on one with the big dogs. i just hope the pass rush is better so these guys in the secondary don't have to cover very long.[/quote]

We were better off drafting another cornerback for the money we gave him. We might have been able to sign Kirk then. Guy is starting material, not the shutdown guy that he was hyped up to be.

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norman played about as well as a corner could have in an overall poor team defense. I thought he was solid.

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[quote=Chico23231;1172149]Per Keim Oline information- Rookie report: Undrafted free agent guard Kyle Kalis continues to work ahead of Arie Kouandjio with the second offensive line. Kalis has been more consistent, both in one-on-one and full-team work. Kalis hasn't been perfect, but he has shown good technique and vision – he did a nice job seeing and picking up a blitzing corner in full-team work Monday. Kalis has a long way to go to earn a roster spot, but he's at least opened eyes early in camp.[/quote]

I was listening to one of the sports talk shows a few days ago and they were talking up Kalis. Basically they were saying he's not only making the team, but could be pushing for a starting spot my mid season. That's how impressive he's been. I thought that was a bold statement considering there hasn't even been one pre season game.

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[quote=Chico23231;1172152]norman played about as well as a corner could have in an overall poor team defense. I thought he was solid.[/quote]

I agree, I thought he played very well. I think people still associate lots of picks as the biggest indicator of being good. The defense this year is supposed to allow for him to make more big plays.

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I am not into picks as an indicator of being a good DB, and I thought he did a good job, just was overhyped. Guy was made out to be like Revis during his prime just about. You do make a good point with the rest of the D being suspect. Let's hope that a bit of help will make Josh better!!!!!!!

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Also, as far as picks. After he hurt his hand early in the season, he dropped 4 or 5 picks that I think he catches this year.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1172147]To be honest I'm not really impressed with Norman either. He is not worth the money and I don't see how they re-sign him after this season. He plays hard and all, but he makes way too many stupid mistakes with flags. He is a system corner, not a man up corner. He simply doesn't have the top end speed to play one on one with the big dogs. i just hope the pass rush is better so these guys in the secondary don't have to cover very long.[/quote]

I disagree.
He was our best player on D last year.
He isn't a track star but he is one of the better CB in the league.
I think this is fair review of him. [url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000769950/article/yearend-cornerback-rankings-richard-sherman-lands-at-no-1]Year-end cornerback rankings: Richard Sherman lands at No. 1 - NFL.com[/url]

I'm excited to see what he can do with a pass rush and competent safeties.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1172147]To be honest I'm not really impressed with Norman either. He is not worth the money and I don't see how they re-sign him after this season. He plays hard and all, but he makes way too many stupid mistakes with flags. He is a system corner, not a man up corner. He simply doesn't have the top end speed to play one on one with the big dogs. i just hope the pass rush is better so these guys in the secondary don't have to cover very long.[/quote]

If Kirk signs his extension after the season, he'll be the first to go. Regain some cap space.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1172159]If Kirk signs his extension after the season, he'll be the first to go. Regain some cap space.[/quote]

I think someone should explain this to Breeland. He doesn't necessarily need to be better than Norman this year to be next years #1 CB, he just needs to show he can be a better value that can play as #1 CB. It's a contract year for both of them right? Maybe he could get out of his own head if he knew that.